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Overlord_lopaka said:
Why did the skeleton attack alchemist?
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Alchemist had brought out 11 skeletons, but he can only control 10 skeletons per level. He was testing what would happen to any extras if his level went below what he could control.

The answer is that the oldest skeletons go feral, which is distinctly not the answer that he was hoping to get. It means that, should he transmigrate or have something else happen to him, the great big army of undead that he made is now wild and uncontrolled and ready to go and murder everything nearby that isn't also undead.

So that's one plan of his that just isn't going to work out. It's not a total wash, he can still do a bit with it, but it's just never going to end up like he hoped it would.
 
Mister Ficser said:
So that's one plan of his that just isn't going to work out. It's not a total wash, he can still do a bit with it, but it's just never going to end up like he hoped it would.
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Al needs the 5e version of finger of death. Permanent loyalty. Zombies do smell worse though.

Find some non sentient humanoids he doesnt mind zombing, get it above max level, see if limit breaker adds the ability to target non humanoids, zombie mammoth army.

EDUT: True Polymorph/Polymorph any object, to make an unoccupied humanoid body. Grind 2 spells at once. Heh if he gets to design the body, it can even be an uncannily identical zombie army. Or True Polymorph rock into unoccupied humanoid body > Finger of Death to make it a permanently loyal zombie > Polymorph Any Object to turn it into any other CR 1/4 creature with the permanent loyalty intact.

EDUT 2: Blink Dog and Pixie army!
 
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Mister Ficser said:
Alchemist had brought out 11 skeletons, but he can only control 10 skeletons per level. He was testing what would happen to any extras if his level went below what he could control.

The answer is that the oldest skeletons go feral, which is distinctly not the answer that he was hoping to get. It means that, should he transmigrate or have something else happen to him, the great big army of undead that he made is now wild and uncontrolled and ready to go and murder everything nearby that isn't also undead.

So that's one plan of his that just isn't going to work out. It's not a total wash, he can still do a bit with it, but it's just never going to end up like he hoped it would.
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Yeah, you kinda need non-Dnd magic to make that work, or like, make/summon/teach some of the benevolent lich types from… i think Eberron? Idk, they're around. That would be basically turning himself into a warlock patron for useful minions, which… actually now that I'm thinking about it that sounds hilarious and can you *imagine* the justice leagues PR department trying to spine that?
"Don't worry everyone, our hired contractor is just here for disaster relief!"

"…mate, that's a void dragon and an undead army, subordinate lich generals included, exactly *how* are any of them here to help?"

PR rep crying internally: "th-they're here to help… fuck I don't know I don't get paid enough for this! I didn't want to make friends with Elder Kor'ala master of the dead sands, but here we are!"
 
Huh, just had a thought: go into a Heroes of Might and Magic game, acquire one settlement of each faction and then supply yourself with loyal soldiers of various creatures. When you return would you still have access to the settlements and all the buildings there in?
 
Sesparra said:
Yessssss~
Void dragon acquired!
So their flight is Void, Havoc, and Mist? Black stars thats going to be *so* wild if they ever meet up with like, one of the Azeroth dragon flights, or almost any of the DnD/faerûn flights, unless they're like, meeting up with Bahomet or (dragon)Tiamat.
Kinda sad he lost his ghost type from the non-cannon Pokémon adventures, but I'm super hyped that he's one of the memetic hazards now xD
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I'd love to see Jinx try to become "closer" to Alchemist by reincarnating her Havoc Dragon form with the Space Creature template from "d20 Future."

That way, both Jinx and Alchemist can survive in the vacuum of space and literately dance among the stars.

Jinx: (singing) 🎵🎼 "Fly me to the moon~! Let me play among the stars~! Let me see what spring is like~! On Jupiter and Mars~!"
 
I wonder how turning into a true void dragon has affected Alchemist's psychology. Like even before becoming a Holmcross/Demi-Dragon he was anti-social and becoming a Holmcross Demi-Dragon definitely effected his personality.

Does Alchemist need to learn a spell to take a human form? Does his Dragonize spell make him More Dragon or is it just gone?

Also will Ace end up in The Team in the future? Perhaps as the Junior Green Lantern much like how Wally is the Junior Flash or Robin is the Junior Batman, Ect.

Are there any Green Lanterns have powers outside of the ones the ring gives off? Cause with an entire universe worth of people finding someone with incredible will and superpowers on their own sounds like a good idea for super police.
 
Frescko said:
I wonder how turning into a true void dragon has affected Alchemist's psychology. Like even before becoming a Holmcross/Demi-Dragon he was anti-social and becoming a Holmcross Demi-Dragon definitely effected his personality.

Does Alchemist need to learn a spell to take a human form? Does his Dragonize spell make him More Dragon or is it just gone?

Also will Ace end up in The Team in the future? Perhaps as the Junior Green Lantern much like how Wally is the Junior Flash or Robin is the Junior Batman, Ect.

Are there any Green Lanterns have powers outside of the ones the ring gives off? Cause with an entire universe worth of people finding someone with incredible will and superpowers on their own sounds like a good idea for super police.
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I... think I recall there being a sort of lich Green Lantern. Some guy that was half-dead after half of his body entered the atmosphere of a lethal planet?

It's been a while since I read up on the more esoteric lore of the GLs, so I don't really recall. But I do think it's safe to say that very, very few people are anything less than exceptional if the Green Lantern Ring chooses them.

Edit: Forgot to address another part of your comment-

Al's body went through a lot of changes from what he'd originally built and those probably weren't helping, either.

His soul was stuck inside of a Materia (FF7), that was placed inside of a Holmcross artificial body (Wild Arms) but that went through a weird interaction with Regenerate (DnD/Pathfinder) which caused it to regrow a draconic arm instead of what should have been there because Al tried to be clever and utilize dragon blood to help bind his soul to the body.

Then he had a Magatama (Shin Megami Tensei 3) rip its way into his guts and start trying to turn him into a sort of primordial spirit creature before it ran out of juice due to not living in its proper environment and Al not feeding it a constant mix of raw magic.

Consolidating into a single, functional entity instead of a mashed together comic-book thing will probably help. A lot.
 
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Since he is avoid dragon now is he immune to all forms of bio attacks like poisons and zombie bites?
 
So he can probably use chakra now. Since before the limitation was he was in a robotic body, that wasn't specifically built to accommodate that. I suppose he could possibly have done it sooner, but not checked.

Now, whether or not he actually works on that is a different story (or remembers that it could potentially be an option now).

Mister Ficser said:
"Maybe later?" Tiffany asked as she looked over the eleven zombies lined up along the wall. "I think I'll go and get a Master lock to practice with."

Well... she'd learn about the real reputation of those locks on her own soon enough.
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She should get two of them. Same model. One to lockpick, and one to lockpick with. Or... use to open with. Chances are the model she picks out will have that weakness.
 
Frescko said:
Are there any Green Lanterns have powers outside of the ones the ring gives off? Cause with an entire universe worth of people finding someone with incredible will and superpowers on their own sounds like a good idea for super police.
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Every race other than human has superpowers, so every non-human Green Lantern would have them. DC humans are special in that humans aren't special at all.

BrokenandBored said:
He needs to find a way to super size as a dragon, so he can flex on other dragons instead of getting laughed at.
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A.) He has Wish to cast Giant Size to basically change his size to "Galaxy." B.) He can summon the god of good dragons whenever he wants and subjugate Bahamut under his own will. C.) He can one-shot any statted creature that isn't an overdeity or from the Immortals Handbook (which often have trillions of HP). D.) He can basically make reality his bitch in almost any way he wants, because he's pretty close to being locally omnipotent at this point, and he has ways to become actually locally omnipotent, if he wants to be.

I think he can flex pretty hard already.
 
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I think the goal here was to have a set up where there was no chance of betray later.

Basically, equivalent to a mindless golem army that if not given new orders either: would do nothing, or do the last thing they were told to endlessly.
 
Mister Ficser said:
Al's body went through a lot of changes from what he'd originally built and those probably weren't helping, either.

His soul was stuck inside of a Materia (FF7), that was placed inside of a Holmcross artificial body (Wild Arms) but that went through a weird interaction with Regenerate (DnD/Pathfinder) which caused it to regrow a draconic arm instead of what should have been there because Al tried to be clever and utilize dragon blood to help bind his soul to the body.

Then he had a Magatama (Shin Megami Tensei 3) rip its way into his guts and start trying to turn him into a sort of primordial spirit creature before it ran out of juice due to not living in its proper environment and Al not feeding it a constant mix of raw magic.

Consolidating into a single, functional entity instead of a mashed together comic-book thing will probably help. A lot.
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So what would of happened if a alternative Alchemist decided to instead keep adding things to his body, like replacing his Faux-Heart with a Briar Heart or that red stone thing, except it's his whole body and it's dozens of other things?

Would that of effected his evolution or would that of all been consolidated like what I'm assuming happened.
 
Lycanthromancer said:
Every race other than human has superpowers, so every non-human Green Lantern would have them. DC humans are special in that humans aren't special at all.


A.) He has Wish to cast Giant Size to basically change his size to "Galaxy." B.) He can summon the god of good dragons whenever he wants and subjugate Bahamut under his own will. C.) He can one-shot any statted creature that isn't an overdeity or from the Immortals Handbook (which often have trillions of HP). D.) He can basically make reality his bitch in almost any way he wants, because he's pretty close to being locally omnipotent at this point, and he has ways to become actually locally omnipotent, if he wants to be.

I think he can flex pretty hard already.
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In one of the earlier chapters he literally got laughed at for being a baby dragon because he was so tiny. He almost never chooses violence outside of certain instant quests. He almost always tries diplomacy first, and as arrogant or prideful dragons normally are, being bigger would stop a lot of misunderstandings. He has already collected gods to his little community, how long before he starts bringing more sentient creatures home? It's about perception not power.
 
Sesparra said:
Yessssss~
Void dragon acquired!
So their flight is Void, Havoc, and Mist? Black stars thats going to be *so* wild if they ever meet up with like, one of the Azeroth dragon flights, or almost any of the DnD/faerûn flights, unless they're like, meeting up with Bahomet or (dragon)Tiamat.
Kinda sad he lost his ghost type from the non-cannon Pokémon adventures, but I'm super hyped that he's one of the memetic hazards now xD
Can't wait for the reaction from those with the eyes to truly see next time they have a meeting/get together/fight. I feel like Dianna will probably take it the best, after Bahomet and maybe Odin, but even still their reaction is gonna be priceless!
And of course the other gamer is just: 'my mentor/weirdly helpful uncle just turned into an eldritch being of the void between universes… neat, so about that adventure?' XD
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Tbh WoW's void is a lot more eldritch with how corrupting the void is while it embodies the concept of "What if".

And I'm kinda interested in what comes up next, rather than the ghost type. Is he still a golem of some kind? How do you improve on 'dragon'? Do you just age them or incorporate more elements? Do you just start adding 'draconic' and elements to another race? Like Tarasque?
 
BrokenandBored said:
In one of the earlier chapters he literally got laughed at for being a baby dragon because he was so tiny. He almost never chooses violence outside of certain instant quests. He almost always tries diplomacy first, and as arrogant or prideful dragons normally are, being bigger would stop a lot of misunderstandings. He has already collected gods to his little community, how long before he starts bringing more sentient creatures home? It's about perception not power.
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Alchemist is literally a young child dragon age wise. Which is kinda funny with Alchemist basically being in irl terms a 4 year old who somehow became a self made billionaire while starting out as impoverished.

Alchemist is Boss Baby confirmed?
 
Frescko said:
Are there any Green Lanterns have powers outside of the ones the ring gives off? Cause with an entire universe worth of people finding someone with incredible will and superpowers on their own sounds like a good idea for super police.
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Mister Ficser said:
I... think I recall there being a sort of lich Green Lantern. Some guy that was half-dead after half of his body entered the atmosphere of a lethal planet?

It's been a while since I read up on the more esoteric lore of the GLs, so I don't really recall. But I do think it's safe to say that very, very few people are anything less than exceptional if the Green Lantern Ring chooses them.
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The Guardians deliberately avoid giving rings to people who already have superpowers. The only exceptions I can think of are Mogo the Living Planet (interstellar travel and self-terraforming), Medphyll (plant manipulation), and Rot Lop Fan (super-hearing and acoustikinesis compensates for blindness).

Watsonian reason: All Lanterns having the same power set means standardized training and combat doctrine, unlike "X-Men" or "My Hero Academia" where each person (A) needs a unique customized education and (B) has their own strengths and weaknesses that must be considered when deploying them on missions.

Doylist reason: All Lanterns having the same power set makes it easier for the writers and artists.
 
drvash said:
The Guardians deliberately avoid giving rings to people who already have superpowers. The only exceptions I can think of are Mogo the Living Planet (interstellar travel and self-terraforming), Medphyll (plant manipulation), and Rot Lop Fan (super-hearing and acoustikinesis compensates for blindness).

Watsonian reason: All Lanterns having the same power set means standardized training and combat doctrine, unlike "X-Men" or "My Hero Academia" where each person (A) needs a unique customized education and (B) has their own strengths and weaknesses that must be considered when deploying them on missions.

Doylist reason: All Lanterns having the same power set makes it easier for the writers and artists.
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So are all the other Green Lanterns human? Because humans seem to be the only race without native superpowers.
 
Mister Ficser said:
"They call her Subject Zero-One, 'Ace'," Batman, Bruce Wayne explained to the furious Lantern. "And she needs our help."
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An important note here, is that not only is Guy Gardner a decent human being under all the crap and occasional brain damage Hal has lumped on him, but he is also, as Samuel Vimes would say, a Good Man. Whoever is currently holding 'Ace' is in trouble, and they aren't likely to get a warning.

Sesparra said:
Kinda sad he lost his ghost type from the non-cannon Pokémon adventures,
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Well, he has still literally and actually died twice, and is still actively on speaking terms with the personification of Death for DC, and is now also capable of necromancy, so he likely still has the Ghost type attached. If anything, this transmigration reduced his Steel type affiliation by removing the occasional metal body parts.
 
Is Batman going to suggest to Guy that he go to see The Wizard? Because ensuring that there's no lingering brain damage (or brain damage-induced insanity) is something that Alchemist could absolutely do.
 
He's more lost his steel typing tbh (given he's not a holmcross anymore... Ghost a possible loss but given he's died before it is likely to still be around...)

Does mean he would be ghost dragon instead of steel dragon if the pokemon anime adjacent continued (technically)... Would make for a fun situation if people started panicking thinking giratina was in their neck of the woods (given his demiplane and the reverse world are apparently neighbors/he keeps seeing them when gating around), that and the Aura he exudes (which scares the crap out of those whom are attuned enough to sense it)*

Either that or pure dragon... But that would be boring XD.

*Sabrina... (Though she has bigger issues on her head now given the 2 psychic in a trenchcoat idea he's implanted in her (very much only half there) mind.

Tldr: lotta potential for shenanigans
 
Mister Ficser said:
Alchemist had brought out 11 skeletons, but he can only control 10 skeletons per level. He was testing what would happen to any extras if his level went below what he could control.

The answer is that the oldest skeletons go feral, which is distinctly not the answer that he was hoping to get. It means that, should he transmigrate or have something else happen to him, the great big army of undead that he made is now wild and uncontrolled and ready to go and murder everything nearby that isn't also undead.

So that's one plan of his that just isn't going to work out. It's not a total wash, he can still do a bit with it, but it's just never going to end up like he hoped it would.
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Older D&D rules give more powerful undead the option of controlling weaker undead. This is usually 2HD per HD of their own. So a 2HD ghoul could control 4 1 HD skeletons.
So, AL controls the most powerful undead, and they rank down controlling less powerful undead underneath them, expanding the size of his army through indirect control. It won't be as tight or responsive, because commands would be repeated, but he would be in control.

But, yes, the uncontrolled undead immediately go feral. This is the exact same thing as controlling undead at your cap and then getting the newest and latest model, the uncontrolled ones you let loose immediately return to their normal behavior.

Also note, Undead can also be created by Curses, which does not involve necromancy, and doesn't have to be evil. D&D did allow good undead at one point (archliches), but has largely backtracked on that. Paizo, of course, has the standard rule that true undead are ALL Evil, no exceptions. There can be good restless spirits, but they aren't Undead if that is the case.

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Almost all alien races in DC have some sort of power or ability that is superior to that of Humans. No superpowers? They gave a power ring to a Daxamite, who are a branch of Kryptonians! Kilowog is superstrong and durable. Arisia regenerated from death and can live for centuries. There are intelligent viruses and plants and whatnot.
Plenty of Green Lanterns have 'super powers' by human standards, even if its only enhanced physical ability in some fashion. They've recruited mentalists, super stealthers, super agile chipmunks, and tons of different things. The most common is probably they are significantly smarter on average than humans are, like Sinestro's people.
But smarts aren't what drives a Green Lantern ring.
The biggest thing for the Humans is that they have high Willpower by Corps ratings, with Hal Jordan topping the scale for everyone. Humans who qualify for Rings are almost always incredibly suited for them.
 
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