No? Burning Martians have nothing to do with Elemental Fire, they just vibrate their body somehow (comic book logic) to create fire. Honestly, the fear of fire isn't even the main fucking thing that the GotU did to the Martians, and everyone pissing on them is forgetting that Martians are fucking able to punch up with Kryptonians and Burning Martians are even stronger, and this is a group of xenophobic, genocidal aliens. The Guardians kinda fucked up, but they had valid reason to intervene HARD.
Wasnt it a telekinetic phase shifting aura that basically dissolved things and looks like fire?
 
forgetting that Martians are fucking able to punch up with Kryptonians and Burning Martians are even stronger, and this is a group of xenophobic, genocidal aliens. The Guardians kinda fucked up, but they had valid reason to intervene HARD
Yup the burning Martians where able to fight the guardians in a War for a significant length of time amd where able to kill a few of them. the one time J'onn had a split personality that was one he was able to stomp hard on the whole Justice League.

Yeah say what you want about what the Guardians did but overall the did the right thing at the time seeing as their only other choice was The genocide of their whole species. Seeing as they were a threat to the universe if they were to spread and progress as Burning Ones
 
Yup the burning Martians where able to fight the guardians in a War for a significant length of time amd where able to kill a few of them. the one time J'onn had a split personality that was one he was able to stomp hard on the whole Justice League.

Yeah say what you want about what the Guardians did but overall the did the right thing at the time seeing as their only other choice was The genocide of their whole species. Seeing as they were a threat to the universe if they were to spread and progress as Burning Ones

Yeah, it's really easy to point out the few times that the Guardians very conservative policies have been disastrous, but there's a reason they have those policies, and that's because 99% of the time it works. They don't stop all evil civilizations, but they can stop them from becoming expansionist superpowers, and the one exception to that is just a question of resources (if the Guardians actually took to the field and lifted restrictions on the GL rings they could beat the Reach, it just would be very costly, so it's a risky decision to make). Their major issues, their major fuckups, over the tens of thousands of years they've been active hasn't hit triple digits. That's with an entire universe to deal with, and most of those are them reacting to already existing problems (Agent Orange, the Reach, etc) rather than their own fuckups.

And anybody who mentions the Starheart misses that it wasn't the entire universes magic, it was the magic of a highly expansionistic magic spacefaring society that they needed to make sure wouldn't come back.
 
And anybody who mentions the Starheart misses that it wasn't the entire universes magic, it was the magic of a highly expansionistic magic spacefaring society that they needed to make sure wouldn't come back.
No it wasn't there first act in trying to get rid of all magic in the universe was to first destroy the Empire of Tears which to remind people was started by the 5 survivors of the Massacre of Sector 666, whose purpose was to destroy the Guardians of the Universe for their responsibility for the massacre, so the Guardians destroyed one of the few remaining proofs of there wrong doing, and 2. after that empire was destroyed they then got all stray mystical energies in the universe bound it in an orb and then stuck that orb in a sun.

And all because they wanted to replace magic with science.
 
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There are multiple canons to draw from. I vaguely recall an alien wizard of some sort who was also a Green Lantern, but that may have been a pretty long time back. Or the alien was half-dead? I really don't recall well and my google-fu is failing me, I apologize.

The point is, with all of the reboots and various authors who've played their hand in the world of DC? We can all be wrong together.
 
-Dramatic- shit still happens.

Everybody summons and makes Faustian pacts with eldritch evils and alien outsiders, but nobody ever accidentally summons a kitten.
I do recall a fic where somebody accidentally summoned a chicken. I'm trying to recall which one it was, might have been "With This Ring", but somebody in some chicken restaurant accidentally summoned giant chickens by killing a bunch of them (that were kept live in the back so the customers could have farm-fresh chicken).
 
Well that's because in DC magic always has a cost and you might not always be able to pay the cost.
That's absolutely wrong. Or well, partially wrong. It really depends who is writing the story and what its themes are.
Tho some writers, like the super lowish magic doctor strange comic from a few years ago, that one made the plot revolve around the price of magic and how you get around it, or not.
And probably Constatine stuff, that's like a narrative version of passing around lots and lots of hot potatoes, and making more.
Tho if you look at other stuff there's literally no cost, just magic to solve problems for free, all to tell an entertaining story.
I do recall a fic where somebody accidentally summoned a chicken. I'm trying to recall which one it was, might have been "With This Ring", but somebody in some chicken restaurant accidentally summoned giant chickens by killing a bunch of them (that were kept live in the back so the customers could have farm-fresh chicken).
Sounds like "The One Ring" by stewart92. It's definitely something that chaos mage of a host to the protagonist would shenanigans into reality.
Zoat wrote "With This Ring", which is the orange lanters self insert story. Don't remember any chicken stuff in it, tho I didn't read the renegade side of it.
 
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That's absolutely wrong. Or well, partially wrong. It really depends who is writing the story and what its themes are.
Tho some writers, like the super lowish magic doctor strange comic from a few years ago, that one made the plot revolve around the price of magic and how you get around it, or not.
And probably Constatine stuff, that's like a narrative version of passing around lots and lots of hot potatoes, and making more.
Tho if you look at other stuff there's literally no cost, just magic to solve problems for free, all to tell an entertaining story.
It's always interesting how those "magic always has a cost" themese always seems to only apply to the good guys trying to use magic, the bad guys can either ignore it, easily bypass it or pass the cost to another.
You rarely see the bad guy have to pay a cost like the hero, unless it's one of those where the bad guy steals the hero's power source only to promptly run afoul of the price when he tries to abuse it, and even then most of the time somehow the bad guy can avoid having to pay the same price the hero has to pay to abuse the power.
 
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Superboy, Connor, was struggling to remain still. Lichfield was a podunk, empty stretch of land with a handful of houses, one traffic light and a military base nearby that probably spent more on a lazy weekend than the local civilians made in a year.

He, Robin and Power Girl were one team, supposed to protect a truck full of something. They hadn't seen it yet, Batman had taken Player One and Alchemist somewhere else to brief them on the truck they were supposed to watch.

Megan, Kid Flash and Aqualad made up the final team. He didn't know if they also got motorcycles.

He didn't know why he got a motorcycle either, come to think of it.

"Alright." Batman said from behind him, which caused jump a foot in the air. "Teams Two and Three are set and moving. You three will be Team One. The truck driver already knows the route, you three just need to keep up. We aren't expecting a retaliatory strike from Ivo, not after the losses he's sustained, but be on the lookout regardless."

Superboy stared at Batman for a moment, a look of something on his face before he started his motorcycle and got moving. It took him a little bit to get the balance figured out, being that it was his first time using one...

Seriously, he had no idea why he was on a motorcycle and not in the truck with the... The thing they were moving. Some Amazing thing? He hadn't had a chance to ask Wally, Megan or Alchemist to explain it to him.

Following behind the truck, Connor wondered if this is what he was going to be doing for the rest of the day.

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The answer ended up being 'yes', right up until the answer was a very emphatic 'No!'.

Flying monkey things were attacking the truck!

Superboy struggled to maneuver his stupid motor-bike-thing and it just wouldn't do what he wanted it to do! He finally got frustrated enough he jumped off, launching himself at the truck and the glowing green robot monkey things.

This did not go as well as he'd been planning. Sure, he landed on the top of the transport truck, but he couldn't actually accomplish much. The monkey were just too fast, too agile and they could fly in almost any direction when he tried to grab them.

Where were Power Girl and Robin?!

If one of them could just hold these things still, he could dis-assemble it without a real fight!

Super Boy tried to jerk to the side when he felt one, no two of them grab under his armpits and start lifting up but his struggles yielded no results. With an expertly coordinated toss he ended up rolling in the ditch next to the road as another monkey used their eye-lasers to cut open the truck.

With a screech of rubber on asphalt Power Girl came to a stop next to him. "Get on!"

Even as Super Boy hurried, he could already tell it was too late. The flying monkey robots were already lifting a massive crate, one that took four of them to carry, into the sky.

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They'd followed Robin a long way, tracking the monkeys all the way to Gotham.

Why Gotham? Why not Gotham. The United States is huge, but for whatever reason nearly a quarter of the crazies could be found in either Gotham or Metropolis.

Closing in on the Gotham High School, Superboy saw three other motorcycles parked in the alley Robin chose.

Megan, Kid Flash and Aqualad.

"Robin." Kaldur started as soon as the equipment was turned off. "I'm glad to see your team is safe. Any word on team three?"

Right. Alchemist and Player One. They'd headed in a different direction, just like Aqualad's team had.

"Radio silence. I hope whatever they had was important."

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Leslie looked at Player One.

Player One looked at Leslie.

She'd gotten around to replacing the chipped and yellowing hockey mask with a red hood that had a black face mask concealing her mouth and nose. It looked nice. Didn't match the rest of her outfit, but the overpowering stench of Rot and dust was slightly reduced.

"You got any two's?" Leslie grudgingly took a card out of his hand and gave it over.

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"Batman wouldn't have sent them off separately if it wasn't." Superboy nodded at Kaldur's words. What he knew of Batman was someone dedicated to brutal efficiency and purpose.

"Is this the part where we split up?" Power Girl asked from where she stood next to Robin.

"That would likely be most effective, yes." Aqualad responded.

"Okay. So, if we're going to be picked off one by one who has to go first?" Superboy wasn't quite sure what to make of her question.

Thankfully he wasn't the only one struggling with it.

"...Maybe we should stay in our groups and just, like-" Megan spread her fingers apart on both hands and then meshed them together. "do a pincer attack? Is that the word?"

"I think I like that idea better. Are we doing that?" Robin asked and looked around. Everyone, Aqualad included, were nodding. "Alright. My team will go in the South. Team Two, there's an entrance to the north-east that's not usually locked."

There was a final look between Robin and Aqualad, one Superboy couldn't decipher, and both teams broke.

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What was the word Superboy was looking for here? He'd heard it used a few times, usually when someone was talking about him and not remembering that he had better hearing than a human.

Eerie, that was it.

The dark hallways of the Gotham school were eerie. They seemed too wide, too open to be empty. Like there was something vital missing and he was walking through a half-aware corpse.

He saw a flicker of green and held out his arm, almost knocking Robin over. Power Girl, of course, saw it at the same time.

Somewhere between the humming and rattling of the old air conditioning system, he could almost make out words.

"Peanuts? It's just full of peanuts! I don't need packing peanuts, I need the head!" That would probably be the Ivo guy, the one in control of the monkey droids.

Superboy tapped Robin's shoulder and then pointed down the hallway he could hear the voice coming from.

Power Girl hadn't figured out flight yet, but she was still faster than him. With a subtle nod from Robin she shot off like a rocket, grabbing the robot before it had time to do anything this time.

"What? Unit Seventeen is offline? Wonderful! Just wonderful! The children are already here and this is what I have to show for it? Someone must think they're cute." He heard a door slam and both him and Power Girl took off. Passing by the one room with the lights on he could just make out the words 'Electrical engineering and woodshop'.

They were almost on him, a short, older looking man in a sweater vest wearing a dapper little red bow-tie. Superboy was reaching out to grab him when a yellow streak got him first.

The others caught up quickly, probably with Megan's help to track the man down.

"Alright!" The professor shouted in Kid Flashes grip. "Alright, I surrender! Just put me down you brute!"

Wally dropped him as Robin and Aqualad closed in.

"I didn't know you had it in you to make the smart choice, Professor." Robin mocked the old redhead as he pulled out a pair of handcuffs from his belt.

In response, the old man pulled something out of his vest. A small circuit board with a handful of wires attached to it and a large lantern battery, a little blinking light at the end of one cable. "And I didn't think any of you were smart enough to set a trap and make a signal duplicator! I guess we all get to be disappointed today!"

He did something, Superboy didn't see what, but it caused the battery to explode into a cloud of choking smoke. He couldn't see the man, but over his own coughing and that of the team he could hear him running.

There was a crash of shattering glass and Kid Flash took off, running half-blind after the man.

A few moments later, tears and snot running down his face as his vision cleared, Superboy was after them too. He could make out the yellow form of Kid Flash not too far away, shouting up at the sky and...

Oh. The man had a quartet of his monkeys flying him away.

Superboy was looking for something he could throw that he wouldn't get yelled at about when he heard a quiet 'Fwip' noise.

It was followed very shortly by Ivo screaming as he fell towards the ground.

Luckily Kid Flash was there to break the old man's fall.

Unluckily, Kid Flash was there to break the old man's fall.

Both of them were stuck in a painful, groaning heap on the ground. One of them, Superboy wasn't sure which, was complaining about their hip.

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"Sorry that it took so long, our head of security demanded the unit be placed in isolation before we could begin unpacking it." A Star Lab technician told the pair of Alchemist and Player One. "Alright. Everything was accounted for, the intact parts were intact, the other ones weren't. If you'll just sign here acknowledging the surrender of the Amazo android you two can get on your way."

Alchemist grabbed the clipboard offered to them before Player One could and began to slowly read through the document. Midway through he pulled a pen out of his inventory and began using it to track where he was.

It got a little uncomfortable when he started to underline things.

"No. We're not signing this." The boy was shaking his head, clearly unhappy.

"Excuse me?" The technician didn't understand, and that was fair. This looked like a job for legal.

"This says the Justice League retains all legal indemnity for any losses or damages that occur due to experimentation as performed at the behest of Star Labs while waiving all rights to knowledge, products and patents that may result from said research." He handed the clipboard over to Player One. "I need to call my superior, but if that's what you expect us to sign, we're taking it back."

Alchemist and Player One had been given a very simple set of tasks. Put the boxes containing the Amazo components in their inventories and then teleport to said labs.

Short, simple and delightfully easy.

What Bruce Wayne's, sorry, Batman's lawyers were about to do could not be described using any combination of those words.

AN/ I briefly debated rewriting this because someone accurately guessed what would happen.
Rather than being petty and making things worse for everyone, I'll just offer them some congratulations instead!
 
At least Alchemist knows the #1 rule when signing paperwork. Always read before you sign. It might be boring and tedious but it can really save your bacon. 🥳
 
I...I don't know which I'm shocked by and what I'm nonplused by, Batman doing the simple thing with the universe destroying android, and Star Labs trying to fuck over the people keeping the planet in one piece/peace. Both are astounding and totally expected at the same time.
I can't remember, in this version did...shit...been so many years since I've seen DCAU I can't remember his name; older doctor that was friends with superman, anyway, did he help make the Galetea/Power Girl clones in this verse? Wasn't he like head of Star Labs?
 
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. . . I mean, ready-made robot body capable of copying superpowers.

If the Justice League doesn't want it, I'm sure Alchemist can put it to good use.

Black Canary: "Okay, but how can you be sure you're not Alchemist who's buried his memories and powers and the Amazo unit isn't just replicating your powers?"
Leslie: "Because if that was true, I'd be a Dragon."
 
Reading the paperwork is always a good idea. Even beyond the legal stuff being important, over the years a lot of companies have hidden how to enter large money sweepstakes inside the T&C.
 
This says the Justice League retains all legal indemnity for any losses or damages that occur due to experimentation as performed at the behest of Star Labs while waiving all rights to knowledge, products and patents that may result from said research."
Has the Justice League made a habit of just signing whatever's handed them? Those terms seem especially egregious and not something typically done without precedent.

Bruce's lawyers are going to have to clean house and go over every single contract the League's ever signed, aren't they?
 
...If you're just going to go posting my notes all over the place, I could just link you to the caer azkaban site instead ;)

Edit: Some of the League members are more thorough about what they do and don't do than others. Time constraints can also be a big issue.
 
He didn't know why he got a motorcycle either, come to think of it.

They were in the crackerjack box.


The answer ended up being 'yes', right up until the answer was a very emphatic 'No!'.

Flying monkey things were attacking the truck!

Waiting...
Waiting...
Waiting...
Waiting...
Flying monkeys!!!
Waiting...
Waiting...
Waiting...

The United States is huge, but for whatever reason nearly a quarter of the crazies could be found in either Gotham or Metropolis.

Fun thought:
There's crazies everywhere, they're just more likely to be found in Gotham or Metropolis. :eek2:
 
Will Alchemist just make custom cards? Battlecry!

"Talk to my Lawyer."

What will be the results? To pay for all damages & waive all rights to the results of the scientists experimenting? There s no free ride from this.
 
Am I being dumb and forgetting shit? Cause I honestly can't remember Power Girl being in the story till now?
She's been here the whole time, Alchemist just isn't interacting with The Team that much. In the original version of events, where no Gamers were present, she was in a hidden portion of Cadmus Labs that wasn't discovered when Connor was rescued and doesn't enter into the story for some time yet, which might be why you weren't expecting her to be present.
 
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