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Man I miss Tactics Advance. Marche was a great antagonist. And he was definitely the antagonist of that story. Trying to destroy the world makes that kind of impossible to counter. 
Project: Gamer Ver. 2 (Young Justice/Gamer/Multicross OC)
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I cannot wait until they enter Borderlands and after hearing it they shout "OH MY GOD THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT IT FROM?"
He did this on purpose...
Thank you for this bit. It's always nice to see moments where despite the OP-ness one achieves, there's still the ability to freak the fuck out remaining.
Lifehunt Scythe
He snagged the scroll for it near the end of the Darksouls jaunt and he's been holding on to it ever since. He'd been avoiding actively using it because the spell is very much the kind of thing that demands an equal response from whoever he fights. However, the nature of the spell makes it especially useful for the Incorruptus because it will form itself to fit the size of the hand wielding it.
He snagged the scroll for it near the end of the Darksouls jaunt and he's been holding on to it ever since. He'd been avoiding actively using it because the spell is very much the kind of thing that demands an equal response from whoever he fights. However, the nature of the spell makes it especially useful for the Incorruptus because it will form itself to fit the size of the hand wielding it.
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I could have sworn that was a physical weapon you got from killing Priscilla rather than a Miracle, didn't realize you could get it in 3 like that. Thank you!
Ethan Eldritch
Multi-Dimensional Eldritch Tree
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Okay, after seeing this nearly 200 times, I have to say, does anybody else feel like he's flexing his nerd power on us with the "and most of what you don't recognize, I still don't own" part of the disclaimer?
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Well… whatever happened with the Monumental was left quite unresolved. That said I love how everything got resolved thanks to Ol' Reliable AKA the Toad Spell. Then Katy ate it.
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Frescko
King of Silver 🏳️⚧️
Wouldn't another way to kill Zeus easily be just going to 40k, Breaking into the golden throne and healing big E and then asking for some of that anathema juice?
Besides that seeing if you can buy skills from Fate would be a good idea especially if you get Scathach's or Muramasa's God-Slayer Skill as that conceptually let's your attacks deal far more damage then they should, at EX rank it should grant some resistant to divine authorities, add in something like Presence concealment and information erasure EX you can can attack Zeus before he even realizes that he's being assassinated
Besides that seeing if you can buy skills from Fate would be a good idea especially if you get Scathach's or Muramasa's God-Slayer Skill as that conceptually let's your attacks deal far more damage then they should, at EX rank it should grant some resistant to divine authorities, add in something like Presence concealment and information erasure EX you can can attack Zeus before he even realizes that he's being assassinated
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Jesus Christ no, the bloodborne leak is bad enough, we do not need to add 40k to the mix.
RageMage
Sir "Shitshow in the making"
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Problems with that.
1. You have to go to 40k. WHY IN THE EVERLOVING ******* would you ever want to go there. Everyhthing there is made to corrupt or fuck you over. And you dont have gamer mind as !minimum! secrutity blanket. I wouldn't even trust that because the OG gamers mind also fucks up sometimes.
2. Are you 100% certain that Alchemist could ressurrect/animate/pruify/whatever him?
3. Do think the Emporer is a good person?
4. JUST NOPE
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Anathema is Anti-Chaos, not Anti God. Against other non Chaos Gods the Emperor just uses his titanic psychic dick to smack them down. As Zeus is a God of Law, then it'd do more collateral damage to Kary than it would to Zeus.
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Well Zeus doesn't rule over Void Dragons; if that was his true form...
Wait...
*Looks at the MHA stuff.
Hahaha!
Wait...
*Looks at the MHA stuff.
Hahaha!
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Great chapter, but the scythe thing made me really curious, partly because I've been pondering re-playing a series. If Alchemist went into one of the .Hack games, would he end up in The World, or on that Earth and have to actually play the game?
On the Earth. Then he could use Possess Object to directly interact with the game.*
*This idea may have been stolen directly from Danny Phantom
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That is the Nuclear Option.
Like, the guy has no problem hurting the innocent, or kids or babies.or pregnant women.
Heck even pre reformation Discord and or Q would feel disgusted with Young Justice Klarion, he is not really Chaotic just stupid evil with too much power for his own good.
Poor Captain Marvel he depends on Zeus Thunder to transform...
That's why I would have turned Zeus law against him, judge him for his crimes and force him to be the one suffering certain Titan punishment.
Law is not reality warping, is to enforce things, and it has limits, they are just really vulnerable to it due to Zeus being a chief God and Terra being chained down.
More important Law need consensus, Law must be approved and followed by a mayority otherwise is not Law, it is Tyranny.
So Zeus cannot just use his power of Law to do whatever the fuck he wants, he needs the other Greek Gods approval.
Unfortunately the mayority of them do approve.punishing uppity mortals so Alchemist concerns are valid.
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umm , no , tyranny is an expression of the law typically biased ,unjust or unfair ones usually enforced unilaterally through whatever force or authority allows one to be a tyrant , after all the law does not need to be just nor serve the publics good merely that it be enforced , in fact you can argue that 9/10th of any law is the force a state is willing to commit to enforce it and punish its violation
so what Zeus is doing totally legal
Indeed, only option is somehow to negate the laws he can impose on reality and then gank him or figure out a way to make him be judged by his own laws in such a way he cant escape via altering the law, pretty much create a situation where something must happen without altering the starting conditions.
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You need a kingdom to be King.
By being King Zeus is approved and followed by a mayority, even if it is a way smaller number in modern times
My point was that the Greek Gods see nothing wrong with punishment of mortals even if said mortals did nothing wrong.
By Greek Gods Laws is perfectly okay to punish the victim for example.
And that's something all or almost all Greek Gods agree on.
So yes Alchemist is right to be scared.
Who says it has to be his own laws? Get Doctor Fate to put him on trial for crimes against humanity and abuse of authority. As Doctor Fate is basically Egyptian he is gonna enjoy doing it.
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Biggest problem is that being empowered by Gaia, and Zeus being one of Gaia grandchildren and the current "King" he has authority over Alchemist and company. If the trio had devoted themselves to a different pantheon his hold on them would be weaker but even then he still has a claim on them.
So yeah they are actually weaker to Zeus "Law" that the average guy on the street since they count as worshippers of the Greek Pantheon.
Saw this earlier at work and haven't commented on it yet- I stated a long time back, pretty early on when I started writing this, that most gamer stories would actually benefit from having fewer gamer elements.
Admittedly, I fell into a bit of a trap as I continued writing. The Instant Quest system should have been implemented much, much differently than I did. It was a mistake on my part.
I'm not going to retcon it, it's become a strong character motivator, but going forward I intend on trying to be less gamey with the characters and try to swing back towards my original goal in which the Gamer power is an aspect of the characters and not the sole driving force of the plot itself.
One of the things that I consider kind of important when I go to read a story, especially any kind of a crossover, is how it's done. Most total fusions fail right out the gate. The disparate settings just don't mesh with each other, the different rulesets genuinely cannot be combined in a coherent way.
Chakra, Reiatsu, Nen, Aura and the like are good examples. None of these are the same and they can't be treated the same, regardless of what a lot of authors think. Many of the best stories, I've felt, involve only a few characters being tossed into the other reality and both sides struggling against each other. The Out of Place character benefits from being an unknown, yes, but at the same time they start with only one tool.
Do they treat every problem like a nail?
Or do they diversify and learn how to leverage their unusual ability in a setting where it's not commonplace?
Both kinds of stories can be amazing if done well. One example that I enjoyed was Harry Potter: Geth.
On to another point you brought up- What would the goddess have done if Al failed to gain One for All whilst playing a True-Zuku route? Watched and waited to see if he did anything interesting. Even dying would have been a valuable data point. One thing to remember about the Chousen is that at their core, all three are researchers. Tokimi is the one that is disrupting the 'natural' order of things to observe differences and try to extract new information through new and unexpected combinations.
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Why not go in the other direction? Invoke a superior Law of greater jurisdiction. Fate &/or Karma. Maybe the Heavens a la Xianxia. Ol' Zeus has been avoiding his Fate for a long time, and has been an entitled asshole uncaring of the suffering he causes others all the while. As mighty as he might be, but as a Law god, he is only a local authority.
Also, not sure how much the other Gods and Goddesses would be on his side like Alex thinks they will be. Sure, he is family to them all. But so is Gaia, and Cronus, and the inmates in Tartarus. This is a pantheon that already decided sometimes family needs to be put down for the good of everyone else.
Just because how he treats everyone else (like throwing his son down the mountain) didn't reach the level of going to war to bring him down, doesn't mean that if he does get toppled from his height anyway, they would consider him someone they want to reinstate.