Lifeandlice
Practitioning side-character
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- Usa
Think we saw their stat sheets in the sidestory of theirs. The one where they ended up saying hello to Hades and crashing at his place for a few months.
Prince Aladdin Quest (Disney Villains *Almost* Victorious)
- Thread starter TempestK
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- Crossover Fantasy
Check the omakes where the two were trapped in the Underworld.
MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
This is why im insist in referring to God as Yewah, you can't not mention him at all, angels and the holly are a plenty clasical disney. But using as a mitological aspect and a fictional figure you can put some degrees of separation.
If i was you i would just keep heaven on apocalise prevention, and other dieties either would know that start shit haven directly is not worthy, or would be cheny/deep ones , but they are already on heaven shitlist by default.
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- Location
- Wherever I feel like being
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm sorry, but what?
I was wondering what types if traits did Sherlock and Watson had and I thought it was similar to a hero unit in another quest
- Location
- Wherever I feel like being
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Read through the omakes and you'll come across their sheets.
Got an idea maybe an omake where heaven is basixally on damage control mode and all the angels are just trying to make sure the universe doesn't implode on itself due to a bunch of franchises getting much mashed together
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
Frollo isn't going to be a concern for us for a while baring some big dice-based upturns. We've got at least one degree of separation from him unless he goes over the Mediterranean (which is rather hazardous at the moment). To the NE he's got Chernabog and the Mirror Kingdoms. Latter might not be that huge an issue but you do not walk through the God of Evil's domain lightly. To the east he's got Greece and the areas closest to his borders are where I think the Titans are roaming around. NW across the Strait of Dover he's got the Horned King (who might or might not be making moves, we don't have the intel).
Finally and most important, right smack dab in the middle of his 'territory' we have the holdings of Maleficent and her court. And these Fae are closer to the nastier Dresden Files crew than most depictions and tend to view humanity as toys and easily replaceable playthings.
So while Frollo might be launching some purges against populaces, his attention is going to be most likely focused in his new neighbors.
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- United Kingdom
[X] Plan Personal Growth but with Cade personal action
- Location
- Germany
I just refuse to give any hypocrites and power-abusers any kind of quarter, be they male, female, other, divine, mortal, human or otherwise.
...Let´s just say that I am not misogynistic at all and simply would prefer not being used as ideological target practice by either side of the "Us against them" warfare current debatting culture has become.
Balmung got it in one.
Gods as a whole are a bit of a Berserk Button for me, because they tend to be utterly hypocritical sociopaths who toy with mortal lives just because they can and to me HE is actually among the *Worst* of the bunch.
Actually, the Lwas of Voudoun (the actual ones, not the bastardised versions Facillier is hanging around with) are among the "gods" I got the least hostile views towards, because they aren´t actual gods and don´t even pretend to be omni-whatever, but instead are effectively grumpy, overworked middle-management goons with their own desires and follies who you simply convince to help you out in a pinch in a "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" kind of way.
But let´s not get into that too much, ok?
So a disenchfranched group is flocking to one demagogue to not be opressed by another? *Great*, that´s only most of human history repeating itself...
Actually, I think it´s the other way around, with FROLLO being the one smack in the middle of hostile territory.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I don't think Genie overwrote anything, that don't seem like something Genie would do, what I think happened, is that Genie made Ababwa somewhere that was unpopulated/sparsely populated with no government in the pre-isot world, but when the isot happened, multiple worlds were combined, and while where Genie put Ababwa was unpopulated in Alladins world, it wasn't in the other worlds.
Genie is generally as benevolent(to the people affected by the wish, not necessarily the wisher) as he can get away with when granting a wish, and as long as it don't break the rules, he has phenomenal cosmic power when granting a wish(meaning he don't have any particular incentive, to go with the path of least resistance in granting the wish.)
So when it's as open ended as making a kingdom, he's either going to select somewhere that could really use a kingdom(such as using the wish as an opportunity to add oases to the driest most unlivable part of a desert, or if the timing is right, use the fact that the kingdom shouldn't be immediately destroyed after being created, to prevent a disaster that would have killed a lot of people.)
And if he can't find a place, where adding a kingdom would improve everyones life, he will raise an island from the sea, or if that would also cause unnecessary problems for people, he will do something like utilize space warping, to create a ten thousand square kilometer kingdom in a small cavern.
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- Mid-Atlantic
There are ways to express profound hostility towards an abuser (and you can make a fairly solid case for Calypso's conduct being abusive) while avoiding specifically misogynistic language.
Example:
Calypso's conduct is grossly abusive. Jones' prolonged service and obedience was made in the expectation that Calypso would hold up her end of a bargain. She did not. This bargain was supposedly made (or so Calypso led Jones to believe) within the context of mutual love, making it all the more important and all the more enhancing Calypso's responsibility, which she did not uphold. Her excuses for this profound lapse, which she has done little or nothing to make up for, boil down to "it's my nature." Her actions in the aftermath boil down to laying curses on Jones that act to punish him for trying to make an independent life without her, and trying to enlist others to aid her whenever he manages to acquire any degree of advantage over her. It is obvious that she expects and feels entitled to his compliance, and his forgiveness for her own offenses. Her conduct is manipulative and abusive, I don't think she is sincere in having any degree of remorse for leaving Jones to his accursed fate, and I think she is far less sympathetic than the movie makes her out to be.
There. See? Not a single slur against female promiscuity ("tart," "bint," and by implication "illoyal ass") in the bundle, as is appropriate. Especially when it's not actually clear whether Calypso had other romantic partners or just... y'know, didn't show up on time like she was supposed to.
A specific suggestion that tone or language be moderated is not necessarily a case of you being "used as target practice." The way we choose to describe bad people can reflect strongly on the way we think about those categories of people.
I'm not sure Queen Maleficient counts as a demagogue. Her power base is magocratic, not populist.
Yeah.
Like, there was inevitably going to be a lot of overlay in the setting.
For example, some of the factions (Atlantis, the Elite Huntsmen, everyone from The Princess and the Frog, many of the lost individuals from settings like Young Indiana Jones and Sherlock Holmes) come from a world where there is a gigantic sea-level ditch running nearly 200 kilometers across the Sinai Peninsula: the Suez Canal.
We can go there. Even without Carpet, it's not that many days' ride if you have a fast camel. And I'm pretty sure that if we go there... We'll find that there's no gigantic ditch there. Why?
Because from their perspective, our reality (in which the canal never existed) has overwritten theirs, so the Suez Canal was overwritten by a pile of dirt and rocks from an Arabian Nights fantasyland.
From our perspective, they were transposed here from a future (or multiple mutually contradictory futures) in which someone dug a gigantic canal there, overwriting specific bits of our reality, but as it happened not that one.
So the question of who overwrote who is... tricky.
- Location
- Germany
You know what I mean.
As for the other bit, apparently certain people need to have a few more words levelled agaisnt them so that the levelling doesn´t immediately framed as discriminatory...duly noted.
Plus, being misogynistic isn´t a solely male trait, despite appearance - discrimination in general isn´t a one-way street, in fact.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Well no, actually. It's not about more or less words. It's that certain language is pretty much automatically discriminatory because its role in our languages is irreversibly tied up in the history of discrimination.
Calling a woman a "tart" simply cannot be separated out from the fact that this historically meant "a woman who has sex for money, which makes her morally inferior, and who does so voluntarily, which makes her more morally inferior, and who is in terms of social status and possibly age/relevance "small" or "lesser-than," which makes her even more inferior and lets us insult her with impunity."
It's like how calling an ethnicity of human or even more generally sapient people of any kind "vermin" has this horrific history of genocide behind it, that makes it kind of unconscionable to say that, simply because "stop saying that shit" is important.
It's not about "a few more words." It's about not using those words in particular.
I can't understand why you think the former is relevant to the situation. You happen to have a male-gendered screenname, so I'm inferring that you are male, but if you were a woman, I'd still be uncomfortable with the way you describe that particular fictional character.
I can't understand why you think the latter is relevant to the situation, either.
Nottheunmaker
Altman be praised
- Location
- USG Ishimura
Can we not? Or if either of you feel that strongly about it, take it to the PMs? That discussion doesn't belong in this thread.
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
- Location
- You'll neeever guess
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
[X] Plan Personal Growth but with Cade personal action
Don't forget, there's also that fog barrier in the north around Arendelle that no one can get through.
Don't forget, there's also that fog barrier in the north around Arendelle that no one can get through.
Genie did a good job considering that when hades and co were teleported in they managed to some how remove the entirety Italy from the map also why did Italy get overwritten
Lifeandlice
Practitioning side-character
- Location
- Usa
The world(s) got ripped to shreds and put back together again with whatever the powers that be had on hand, honestly I'm surprised the map even looks as close as it does.
Jerusalem is going to be a nightmare to deal with 1 holyspot for three religions two of which are very big and very protective over it plus being in between multiple franchises equals bad things. Considering the entire Italian peninsula got glitched by accident and I don't want to be anywhere near that place
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I don't think Genie had anything to do with the isot, as I understand it, Genie made Ababwa, then the isot happened afterwards, so Genie did a good job, but what he did, was separate from the isot.
I was comparing the isot to genie. genie does things precise and makes sure as many people benefit as possible. The isot through around multiple timelines willy knilly regardless of the consequences
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
There's a map in the Informational posts. Going by it, Jerusalem is within the Sultanate of Agrabah.
I am pretty sure the Sultan treats pilgrims kindly and so on, but would not appreciate an invasion of Frollo-fanatics.
Frollo launching a crusade to take Jerusalem is a problem for us- though his own border security situation is bad enough that he'd be unwise to do so. When the historical Crusades took place, western Catholic Christendom was considerably less threatened from the outside.
And if Frollo doesn't do it... Well, nobody else in a position to try to take Jerusalem is gonna care. I figure it'll be fine, barring Frollo. Nobody else is likely to threaten the current presumed Arabian Nights-style Muslim control of the Holy Land.
I am pretty sure the Sultan treats pilgrims kindly and so on, but would not appreciate an invasion of Frollo-fanatics.
Honestly, Jerusalem has only been a nightmare hotspot for violence at specific times when a heavily armed religion parachuted into the region and demanded to change ownership at the expense of whichever religion was holding it at the time.
Frollo launching a crusade to take Jerusalem is a problem for us- though his own border security situation is bad enough that he'd be unwise to do so. When the historical Crusades took place, western Catholic Christendom was considerably less threatened from the outside.
And if Frollo doesn't do it... Well, nobody else in a position to try to take Jerusalem is gonna care. I figure it'll be fine, barring Frollo. Nobody else is likely to threaten the current presumed Arabian Nights-style Muslim control of the Holy Land.