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Paths of Civilization II: Paths of Industrialization

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[] [Security] 1 PW - Improve Security funding (-3 temp SoL, +1 Espionage)
[] Sivantic 1844
-[] Construct Sewer - 1 PW: -4 temp IC, +1 Sewer
-[] Build Political Support - 1 PW + Happiness >7: +2 PW
-[]Build Political Support - 1 PW + Happiness >7: +2 PW
-[]Build Political Support - 1 PW + Happiness >7: +2 PW
-[]Build Political Support - 1 PW + Happiness >7: +2 PW
-[]Build Political Support - 1 PW + Happiness >7: +2 PW

Build Support so we reach mid at max and put the left over into sewers and start the slow path of reducing Pollution.

Citino said:
So, some actions people might not have seen yet:
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Sivantic said:
New Project
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Get blackbirded :p
 
Xon said:
Awesome, we can sell Obsolete equipment.

This is important, as while Obsolete Industrial still produces IC; it is not as fluff-efficient. This also gives us the ability to raise temp SoL if we need to.

Selling Obsolete Military Equipment is critical as it lets us directly uptech an ally while pushing re-arm progress.
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Supporting our Hung port + sell obsolete equipmemt to hung + sell obsolete weapons to hung + DO hung sounds like a POWER kick to their stabity.
 
Selling obsolete equipment to the Hung sounds good for propping them up.

@Academia Nut
What are our projected buyer targets that we think are likely?
I think its basically Black Sheep(sell guns, get curry, weaken opium trade), Hung(sell guns, get warm fuzzies but nothing immediate) and I'm not sure where the Khemetri stand relative to our current equipment.


Our Army Corp of Engineers is going to be a fantastic way to convert our high Army into railroads though.
Academia Nut said:
Those ports are currently not in great shape but they can maintain shipping out of them... however, with steamships potentially coming up, they will become wholly inadequate for dealing with steamships.
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Alright. So 1 investment each should bring them up to 'normal' port standards. 2 for fortified ports. The rest would go to general economic improvement.
HanEmpire said:
AN on Railroad costs, from Discord:

AN on Railroad lines on foreign soil, from Discord:
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Okay so hmm, we're better off focusing on the Trans Kyberian rail line first(how many instances can we afford to start?) and on the Kielmyr line, so we don't need the DO yet.

zamin said:
Remember when we had that one Diplo Genius King who went a bit mad when we insisted in throwing him in war after bloody war? Pretty sure he was the one who invented Absurdism. I remember that he pissed off a lot of the Priests and Upper Nobility with his plays, especially when he had a few laws set up to stop them from being banned by any future rulers.

I'm hoping that the play Yenyna is referencing came from that time, though honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Nokly had written something similar when he was younger.
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AH, right, that sounds like his work.
 
Actually, @Academia Nut
Do we regen half of our temporary Industry every half turn, or is it like our other stats and regens to half the midpoint of where it is now to max Industry?
 
[] [Security] 0 PW - Exile some rabble rousers to Kyberi (-1 temp Consciousness, -1 temp Militancy, Settle Kyberi action used)
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Look, exile problems aside, Et tu Nokly!? Undeveloped Hinterlands man~

[] [Security] 0 PW - Point the People at the Sketch or Nohon or something (-3 temp Consciousness, +1 temp Militancy, ???)

the "goddem foreners grrr" option.

[] [Security] 1 PW - Improve Security funding (-3 temp SoL, +1 Espionage)
I'm leaning towards this, dem Sketch has been noted to muck about.

[] [Security] 0 PW - Keep digging (-1 temp Espionage, internal security sweep continues)
Also interesting.

That ticking time bow of franchise, guess prejudice comes into play again (as does the previous "all factions angered" towards universal franchise). Trains probably Kyberia, also what's the progress on rearmament? THe sooner it's done the sooner our officer exchange-boosted military research be effective again.
 
Sivantic said:
Not what I meant.

If we use none of it, do they get 12 to work with or 9?

Or am I completely off and it only works that way when above max?
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Orignal plan was for us to regain full IC every mid-turn, so I assume we get half our max IC each half turn now.

So if we didn't use any of it, we'd go up to 12 IC next midturn.
 
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Academia Nut said:
Increase Armies - 1PW: Temp Increases Armies by 3, -2 Temp IC
Trans-Kyberi Railway - 1 PW, -4 Temp IC, +1 Max Development, (4 more uses to remove Undeveloped Hinterlands status, 0/30 Actions to Completion) (0 PW for the first use a turn)

Army Corp of Engineers - Temp IC costs for Major Infrastructure Projects, Railroads, and Sewers may be paid with Temp Armies instead of IC
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This combo is important, it is basically a public works program for all those people who are out of work and don't have factory jobs at the moment.

This lets us soak up unemployed and throw them at a problem which is mostly about throwing fit and health warm bodies at a problem.
 
Xon said:
This combo is important, it is basically a public works program for all those people who are out of work and don't have factory jobs at the moment.

This lets us soak up unemployed and throw them at a problem which is mostly about throwing fit and health warm bodies at a problem.
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Yep. Throw every last PW spare in. Rails first or sewers first though? We really need that Trans Kyberi
 
Xon said:
This combo is important, it is basically a public works program for all those people who are out of work and don't have factory jobs at the moment.

This lets us soak up unemployed and throw them at a problem which is mostly about throwing fit and health warm bodies at a problem.
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Together with crown railway corps you basically create specialized droves of people with engineering training, who can them go back into the job market with new job specializations.
 
Would it be possible to both continue the sweep and improve espionage services.

I also wonder if a Un undirected DO would be worth it.

Provided we get at least 2 IC increase, I think that the rail company balanced against 4 temp IC :D
 
veekie said:
Yep. Throw every last PW spare in. Rails first or sewers first though? We really need that Trans Kyberi
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My current preferred plan is:

RDI 1 PW + Innovation 10+: +2 IC and Active Development, +1 Pollution, -2 Temp IC
RDI 1 PW + Innovation 10+: +2 IC and Active Development, +1 Pollution, -2 Temp IC
Increase Armies - 1PW: Temp Increases Armies by 3, -2 Temp IC
Trans-Kyberi Railway - 1 PW, -4 Temp IC, +1 Max Development, (4 more uses to remove Undeveloped Hinterlands status, 0/30 Actions to Completion) (0 PW for the first use a turn)
Found Kale-Yllthon Railway Company - 1 PW, -2 IC, founds company to automatically expand <X> arterial line each turn, IC refunded at end of project
Found Kale-Yllthon Railway Company - 1 PW, -2 IC, founds company to automatically expand <X> arterial line each turn, IC refunded at end of project
Construct Sewer - 1 PW: -4 temp IC, +1 Sewer
Invest in Hung Port - 1 PW, -1 IC, port better developed)

Leaves us at 3 temp army, -1 IC, but gives us a two action company to start working on the Kale line, and gets the Hung port up to date so we can start getting stuff into Hung.
 
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@Academia Nut

Can we pay for this

Found <X> Railway Company - 1 PW, -2 IC, founds company to automatically expand <X> arterial line each turn, IC refunded at end of project

With this

Army Corp of Engineers - Temp IC costs for Major Infrastructure Projects, Railroads, and Sewers may be paid with Temp Armies instead of IC

So the Railway Company costs 2 Armies that is refunded at the end of project instead of IC.
 
Hey faction leaders! Any plans for using any of the three shiny new action sets (Develop ports, arterial rails, or Sell Weapons?)
 
Citino said:
My current preferred plan is:

RDI 1 PW + Innovation 10+: +2 IC and Active Development, +1 Pollution, -2 Temp IC
RDI 1 PW + Innovation 10+: +2 IC and Active Development, +1 Pollution, -2 Temp IC
Increase Armies - 1PW: Temp Increases Armies by 3, -2 Temp IC
Trans-Kyberi Railway - 1 PW, -4 Temp IC, +1 Max Development, (4 more uses to remove Undeveloped Hinterlands status, 0/30 Actions to Completion) (0 PW for the first use a turn)
Found Kale-Yllthon Railway Company - 1 PW, -2 IC, founds company to automatically expand <X> arterial line each turn, IC refunded at end of project
Found Kale-Yllthon Railway Company - 1 PW, -2 IC, founds company to automatically expand <X> arterial line each turn, IC refunded at end of project
Construct Sewer - 1 PW: -4 temp IC, +1 Sewer
Invest in Hung Port - 1 PW, -1 IC, port better developed)

Leaves us at 3 temp army, -1 IC, but gives us a two action company to start working on the Kale line, and gets the Hung port up to date so we can start getting stuff into Hung.
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It does however get us to Pollution 5(6) :/
 
[] [Security] 1 PW - Improve Security funding (-3 temp SoL, +1 Espionage)
[] Plan Full Steam Ahead
-[] Found Trans-Kyberi Railway Company - 1 PW, -2 IC, founds company to automatically expand Kyberi arterial line each turn
-[] Construct Sewer - 1 PW, -4 Temp Armies, +1 Sewer (Army Corp of Engineers)
-[] Rapid Develop Industry - 1 PW, +2 IC and Active Development, +1 Pollution, -2 Temp IC
-[] Invest in Hung Port - 1 PW, -1 IC, port better developed)
-[] Build Political Support - 1 PW + Happiness >7: +2 PW
-[] Build Political Support - 1 PW + Happiness >7: +2 PW

This plan gets the TKRC up immediately. I put in a sewer to help handle overcrowding issues and keep a large, healthy workforce to throw at those railroads. There's a Develop Hung Port option in there. I put in the RDI to help push back up the IC we lose. The spare 2 PW I threw into Build Political Support so we can mash railroad building as hard as possible next turn.

Very open to suggestions: plans are not my strong suit.

veekie said:
Yep. Throw every last PW spare in. Rails first or sewers first though? We really need that Trans Kyberi
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I think sewers have to come first, or we're going to risk a revolt, what with the -3 Temp SoL we'll take from Security funding.
 
Hear me now.

Any plan that votes to get to pollution 6 whether Temp or Perm is strictly un-tree-stituional, and an affront to the countless generations of hardworking foresters whom, with great diligence and care, created this mighty bounty we all partake in, in some form or other, to this very day. Be it by resting under the shade, writing on paper or by tilling the fields, whose soil is kept in place by their roots.

This sketch-like disregard for our environment will unsurprisingly give us a very sketch-like future to look forward to. One of smoggy air and dirty streets, no rustling leaves but the clank and roar of factories.

Vote nay for this madness.

This feud with the Sketch will last but a moment in the grand scheme of things, the damage we cause in our blind rush towards progress and dominance?

Our children will pay for it, they will pay for it dearly.
 
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