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itym ERETRIA KOSMOPOLIS
Magna Graecia: Titanomachia (A City State Quest)
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- ancient greece alternate history empire builder civ quest democracy gods save us granary management hubris it's an eretrian thing. let lose the weasels of war lithocracy lithocracy is my fetish maximum hellene my big fat greek divine wedding this granary aint gonna fill itself cetash unwinnable
itym ERETRIA KOSMOPOLIS
Honestly I'm also pretty happy with the current plan, just as I was happy with Steel Ram.
They're both consistent. Basically everything they're doing flows into the other things they're trying to do, in terms of diplomacy and straegy. Well, maybe Plan Lasting Victory doesn't exactly need to do the land grants, but whatever.
definitely don't google what "Arktos" means in Ancient Greek, or the etymology of "Arkadia"
They're both consistent. Basically everything they're doing flows into the other things they're trying to do, in terms of diplomacy and straegy. Well, maybe Plan Lasting Victory doesn't exactly need to do the land grants, but whatever.
definitely don't google what "Arktos" means in Ancient Greek, or the etymology of "Arkadia"
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The ekklesia three quests down the line (h/t Xenophon Zolotas):
Article: Kyrie, I eulogize the archons of the Panethnic Numismatic Thesaurus and the Ecumenical Trapeza for the orthodoxy of their axioms, methods and policies, although there is an episode of cacophony of the Trapeza with Hellas. With enthusiasm we dialogue and synagonize at the synods of our didymous organizations in which polymorphous economic ideas and dogmas are analyzed and synthesized. Our critical problems such as the numismatic plethora generate some agony and melancholy. This phenomenon is characteristic of our epoch. But, to my thesis, we have the dynamism to program therapeutic practices as a prophylaxis from chaos and catastrophe. In parallel, a Panethnic unhypocritical economic synergy and harmonization in a democratic climate is basic. I apologize for my eccentric monologue. I emphasize my euharistia to you, Kyrie to the eugenic and generous American Ethnos and to the organizers and protagonists of his Amphictyony and the gastronomic symposia.
Article: Kyrie, it is Zeus' anathema on our epoch for the dynamism of our economies and the heresy of our economic methods and policies that we should agonize the Scylla of numismatic plethora and the Charybdis of economic anaemia. It is not my idiosyncrasy to be ironic or sarcastic, but my diagnosis would be that politicians are rather cryptoplethorists. Although they emphatically stigmatize numismatic plethora, they energize it through their tactics and practices. Our policies have to be based more on economic and less on political criteria. Our gnomon has to be a metron between political, strategic and philanthropic scopes. Political magic has always been anti-economic. In an epoch characterized by monopolies, oligopolies, monopsonies, monopolistic antagonism and polymorphous inelasticities, our policies have to be more orthological. But this should not be metamorphosed into plethorophobia, which is endemic among academic economists. Numismatic symmetry should not hyper-antagonize economic acme. A greater harmonization between the practices of the economic and numismatic archons is basic. Parallel to this, we have to synchronize and harmonize more and more our economic and numismatic policies panethnically. These scopes are more practicable now, when the prognostics of the political and economic barometer are halcyonic. The history of our didymus organizations in this sphere has been didactic and their gnostic practices will always be a tonic to the polyonymous and idiomorphous ethnical economies. The genesis of the programmed organization will dynamize these policies. Therefore, I sympathize, although not without criticism on one or two themes, with the apostles and the hierarchy of our organs in their zeal to program orthodox economic and numismatic policies, although I have some logomachy with them. I apologize for having tyrannized you with my Hellenic phraseology. In my epilogue, I emphasize my eulogy to the philoxenous autochthons of this cosmopolitan metropolis and my encomium to you, Kyrie, and the stenographers.
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Oh really?
Seems to be the reasoning for several people, including you.
"When Eretrians come speaking of friendship, put your hands to your weapons"
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Not that it worked in the original series
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That does make me think about the Dauni though. If it works out with them and the Messappi, we are going to have a massive coastline to watch over and pirates still going about, that will not be fun...
@Cetashwayo where are we on roads? Is that something we can start building to better connect ourselves with our league and barbaroi? I know the Romans were involved in that, but do not know if people did that before them or not
@Cetashwayo where are we on roads? Is that something we can start building to better connect ourselves with our league and barbaroi? I know the Romans were involved in that, but do not know if people did that before them or not
Cetashwayo
Lord of Ten Thousand Years
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The roads suck shit.
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Roads aren't worth it until we really want to go inland.
Here is a link to ORBIS (and the paper) -- Stanford built a geospatial model to represent transport costs during Roman times. Some guy here used it to compute a ratio of sea to river to road costs; to move 1 unit of cargo 1 unit of distance, the ratio between sea/downriver/upriver/road is 1:5:10:52.
That is to say, if it costs 1 talent to move 1 container of grain 1 kilometer by sea, it would cost 52 talents to move that same container by land.
Much, much more efficient to build out our thalassocracy before trying to go inland.
EDIT: or what Cetash said
dontpressenter
Irrational Philosopher
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So in the case where we choose to pursue Epiktetos' Serpent Plan, who is going to have the...interesting? Interesting job of explaining to our league allies, 300 hoplites eager to prove their polis worthy of their newfound rights in the Epulian League, our plan of the extended skirmish? As Eretrians, we are of course familiar with using our famed cavalry, but it might be a...novel experience for our league allies.
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Their neophytes may grumble, it is true. The veterans, who have seen war, and know that Eretria does not spend the lives of its allies freely, but is as dear with theirs as we are with our own? That has merits, also.
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So Zetta Slowpoke
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There's a reason I used the word "premature", you know.
I feel like the odds aren't enough in our favor right now for a pitched battle, but a significant part of that is that the Tarentines are more experienced and don't need to bring a significant portion of their heavy infantry from the other side of Italy, plus not needing to turn an assemblage of forces from a wide array of cities into a cohesive whole. Give us enough time to blood our troops and get our own troops, the League forces, and possibly the Thurii used to working together, and then I'd be more sanguine about our chances in open battle against the Tarentine hoplites.
What do you think of Mnemnon's Friendliness and Courage saving negotiations from failure on Thurii? I would think him being too trusting might unintentionally work out in our favor when the ills of the league and Eretria are sniffed out.
I mean there's already a sentiment in Metapontion that we're haughty enough that we've just ensured our destruction, but I don't think they'll still be laughing when the reality of us needing Thurii hits home.
dontpressenter
Irrational Philosopher
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It not so much the fact that we might choose to preserve men, but the way we go about it that would provide the culture shock I am concerned about. Our foes already view us as half barbaroi, I do would not like our allies to think the same.
[X] Plan Steel Ram
Why do people bring rocks to the assembly? And vote by lifting them?
Why do people bring rocks to the assembly? And vote by lifting them?
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It's an Eretrian thing.
No citizen is allowed to address the Assembly in public unless they do so from atop a rock. If you plan to actually participate in public speaking and political discussion in the Assembly on any level beyond that of private conversation, you bring a rock. Rocks aren't required to vote, but are required to be accepted as a fully participatory citizen.
Bigger rocks are more prestigious, so successful politicians tend to have very big rocks- too large for one person to carry, but that's fine since they have supporters to carry them.
In general, no serious policy proposal will be listened to unless the proponent has a big rock, such as might be carried by several kleftes, or lifters. This is an IC way of justifying the OOC mechanic whereby several players have to second any given user motion for it to be put to a vote.
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It started when Drakos and Antipater got in an argument. Drako got on a rock to shout gooder* and then Antipater got on one to shout back. So then Drako got a better rock, and there it went.
Then I believe it was @Cetashwayo that introduced kleftes(rock-lifter) to connect it to having 3 people support a user-motion before it was votes on by the rest of us to pass or veto. Then it became literal.
That is it. That is why we do it.
*I give it the respect it demands
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[X] Plan The Greatest Glory Is Lasting Victory
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[X] Plan The Greatest Glory Is Lasting Victory
Ah, you're fond of using technical terms I see.
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Is creating a...highway of some kind to connect Eretria and her allies to each other a megaproject of some sort?
Also, apparently non-Hellenes also create timber tracked roads? And Hellenes crushed stone ones? How much would each option cost?
Deadly Snark
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Probably but money and political will are factors. Like our city is shit so the people want that fixed first
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We're a coastal polity - ships are vastly more efficient than even the best roads.
One advantage of Serpent's Vice that hasn't been raised is that it should permit the blooding of our younger citizens in a more controlled fashion before a major clash, rather than hurling them into a mass battle straight off. That should hopefully lead to a few more of them surviving than otherwise.
