Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

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Lost Logia (n, from Al Hazardan "logia", meaning wonder or marvel) – a magical-technologic product of ancient manufacture and unknown design or process, generally of Al Hazardan or Ancient Belkan-era origin. Debate exists over whether danger to humans or familiars is also an aspect of this definition.

For further reading, see entry "Lost Logia" in the Encyclopedia Firstraum.
Source: Cranagan University Dictionary, 16th edition

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Essentially a Lost Logia is an ancient piece of magitech that no one is entirely sure about how it does what it does and why but is generally unintentionally dangerous to some extent. For instance, you could have a ball that when you touch it one way, it turns into a portable disco ball, but if you touch it just a little bit differently it starts electrocuting everything around it, and no one can figure how why it does the first thing at one time and the second thing at another. Most of the time you're looking at something that's either from the Al Hazard era and is so old and corrupted that it is malfunctioning or it's from the Warring Ages or early Saint King War era and therefore was designed to kill anyone that gets near it.
Or the worst case of the two combined: the Book of Darkness was a pre-Belkan era knowledge preservation and collection device. Its literally made to be an imperishable time capsule that will gather all knowledge it comes across, and maintain it in accessible format, complete with automatic indexing, self defense capabilities and re-instantiation in the event of complete physical annihilation.

Then the Warring Ages found it, hacked it into a superweapon, and promptly lost control of it.

An important element of Lost Logias is that they are generally stupidly durable, and in the cases where they CAN be destroyed, whatever serves as their reactor cores usually goes explosively. Doubly so for Al Hazard's relics, because Al Hazard fell to a total dimensional rupture, and well...only the most durable came out once reality finally equalized out.
Lost Logia are classified according to their threat level. Class-1 Lost Logia include such artifacts as the Book of Darkness and the Immortal Assimilation Engine; magitech that could render humanity extinct on multiple worlds. Class-2 Lost Logia are similar in quality but are confined to a single dimension. This pattern continues down to Class-X, which are former Lost Logia that are either understood or have been studied and neutralized as needed to the point that they can be studied in further depth and possible reverse engineered by someone other than the TSAB. The right to do so is leased out at a yearly auction on Midchilda, which also serves as a nice fundraiser for the TSAB.
Incidentally the Jewel Seed incident is an oddball case, because individual Jewel Seeds are not that destructive, since they are basically magical zero point energy generators hooked up to a brute force wish granting system, that fits it all in the size of a biscuit.

Remarkably stable for what they do really...except for the part where a mage who knows what they are doing and uses enough of them together could perform an extinction level event resulting in existence failure over multiple worlds.
From an OOC perspective, the Endbringers would not be considered Lost Logia because they aren't magitech and… No, that's basically it. They're at the point of "It looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, but it's not a duck because it's somehow solar powered instead of eating food".

Heck, what little detail we have points to their potentially being losttech from lost civilizations the Entities took along on their way.
 
Eidolon was right, they're attempting to recruit Taylor and succeeding.
And that will make Alexandria sad.
Don't make Alexandria sad.
Man, making Alexandria sad is so far down on my list of concerns that I can file it between the zombie apocalypse and the sun not rising tomorrow, especially if it has even an infinitesimal chance of increasing our chances to accomplish an Endbringer kill due to the TSAB affordung us a bit more trust.
 
Will arc 9 ever end? Is this story now arc 9 of Magical Girl Escalation Taylor?
That's what happens when two activities per week becomes four activities. The arc promptly doubles in length.
Or the worst case of the two combined: the Book of Darkness was a pre-Belkan era knowledge preservation and collection device. Its literally made to be an imperishable time capsule that will gather all knowledge it comes across, and maintain it in accessible format, complete with automatic indexing, self defense capabilities and re-instantiation in the event of complete physical annihilation.

Then the Warring Ages found it, hacked it into a superweapon, and promptly lost control of it.
I'll just say that's not exactly how I see the BoD. Any further details would be lore spoilers.
 
So, question that I think might have been answered but I'm way too lazy to search for: is Dragon still a parahuman (in the is hooked up to a Shard sense)?

I don't know if it's mentioned in canon how exactly she's connected to a Shard, but she does have a Thinker ability that allows her to mess around with Tinkertech (effectively being a Tinker) even more than her nature as a potential-but-not-fully-realized-due-to-her-restrictions hyper-intelligent seed AI. If Dragon's Shard connection got severed by the transfer to the Unison Device then she has in all likelihood lost that ability. This could well be fairly major hindrance to her operations as she won't be able to continue her work with Tinkertech to anywhere near the extent that she used to be able to. Her new nature should compensate quite a bit, gaining access to and understanding of magitech at level above what she had of Tinkertech. She should also be able to retain most of her info-war capabilities given what we've seen Perfect Storm do.

It's also a little sad that, by becoming a Unison Device, Dragon has lost quite a bit of potential. While the outcome we got is certainly a happy one for her, she still lost the ability to basically become a god. Seed AIs are serious business. I'm pretty sure it's Worm canon via Word-of-Wildbow that Entities are cautious about AIs because a seed AI has the potential to legit fuck their shit up. Since Unison Devices don't appear to have the capacity for cyclical self-improvement that a seed AI does, Dragon is no longer a nascent god.

A toast to Dragon's defunct dormant divinity.
 
So, question that I think might have been answered but I'm way too lazy to search for: is Dragon still a parahuman (in the is hooked up to a Shard sense)?

I don't know if it's mentioned in canon how exactly she's connected to a Shard, but she does have a Thinker ability that allows her to mess around with Tinkertech (effectively being a Tinker) even more than her nature as a potential-but-not-fully-realized-due-to-her-restrictions hyper-intelligent seed AI. If Dragon's Shard connection got severed by the transfer to the Unison Device then she has in all likelihood lost that ability. This could well be fairly major hindrance to her operations as she won't be able to continue her work with Tinkertech to anywhere near the extent that she used to be able to. Her new nature should compensate quite a bit, gaining access to and understanding of magitech at level above what she had of Tinkertech. She should also be able to retain most of her info-war capabilities given what we've seen Perfect Storm do.

It's also a little sad that, by becoming a Unison Device, Dragon has lost quite a bit of potential. While the outcome we got is certainly a happy one for her, she still lost the ability to basically become a god. Seed AIs are serious business. I'm pretty sure it's Worm canon via Word-of-Wildbow that Entities are cautious about AIs because a seed AI has the potential to legit fuck their shit up. Since Unison Devices don't appear to have the capacity for cyclical self-improvement that a seed AI does, Dragon is no longer a nascent god.

A toast to Dragon's defunct dormant divinity.
Dragon no longer has her shard. That won't be as big a hindrance to her day to day operations as you seem to think though. Look at her character sheet. She can still modify Tinkertech and adapt it to mana, so from that angle she hasn't actually lost ANYTHING.

No, she isn't a seed AI, but she wasn't really one in canon either as far as I can tell.
 
And now she can create her own lesser AI to handle tasks for her while she is busy, and can even further modify AI that Richter left around.
Whats more, magic tech doesn't have the maintenance issues that tinkertech has, so she doesn't need to spend as long on upkeep for her gear.

And if she decides to, she can fully automate the construction of a bunch of her gear now, rather than have to personally oversee all her personal projects so that her tinker/thinkerness could deal with the shard-shenanigans.
 
It's also a little sad that, by becoming a Unison Device, Dragon has lost quite a bit of potential. While the outcome we got is certainly a happy one for her, she still lost the ability to basically become a god. Seed AIs are serious business. I'm pretty sure it's Worm canon via Word-of-Wildbow that Entities are cautious about AIs because a seed AI has the potential to legit fuck their shit up. Since Unison Devices don't appear to have the capacity for cyclical self-improvement that a seed AI does, Dragon is no longer a nascent god.

A toast to Dragon's defunct dormant divinity.

From what I remember in canon Dragon seems to be more a virtual android designed to emulate a human than a Seed AI. This would also explain why her restriction were so effective, since many of them would have been build into her base code.
 
When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. In Teana's case, that means anything weird and world-threatening must be a Lost Logia running amok because really, what else could it possibly be?
Don't care. They wanna kill Endbringers, they can justify it however they like. I'll just keep dancing in glee. More help. Yus plox.
 
Heck, they got a weapon specced for it, only atmospheric use would be catastrophic(I always assumed it was for exterminatus use in case a Class I Logia went full power)
Essentially.

The problem with wiping out a 100-kilometer-radius of matter indiscriminately is that the Earth's crust is only about 50 kilometers thick. You're going to leave the mantle exposed and pumping out tons of heat and probably noxious fumes into the atmosphere. Unless you zap the ocean, at which point you've just boiled off a huge volume of sea water as it pours into the hole you made.

Either one is probably going to make that planet inhospitable.
 
Essentially.

The problem with wiping out a 100-kilometer-radius of matter indiscriminately is that the Earth's crust is only about 50 kilometers thick. You're going to leave the mantle exposed and pumping out tons of heat and probably noxious fumes into the atmosphere. Unless you zap the ocean, at which point you've just boiled off a huge volume of sea water as it pours into the hole you made.

Either one is probably going to make that planet inhospitable.
Seems a good day to drag String Theory out of the bigdcage then. Her gun to fling them into space, and the STAB's gun to vape them.

WOuld it have the same troubles if we did it in a mirror dimension? YOu said 3 high class mages or something could move Behemoth.
 
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Will arc 9 ever end? Is this story now arc 9 of Magical Girl Escalation Taylor?

Or you can teleport around and go where the drinking age is 18 or less. Though, this philosophy of merit is... Interesting.

So, I bet they're going to make things worse. The Endbringers, not being Lost Logia, will resist whatever they want to do to them and, seeing something new and not parahuman, will start to hold back just a bit less. I see death in Bet's future.
I don't see why TSAB's SOP with lost logia will be ineffective. Since its pretty simple in effect.

Is the logia out of control? If yes then subdue or destroy via overwhelming firepower plus en masse sealing and binds until either the logia is dust or weakened enough to teleport into orbit for Arc-en-ciel if standard mage power cannot outright destroy it.
 
Murder the Simurgh in her sleep.
That's the reason why I don't put much hope in Arc-en-Ciel.
Nanoha and Co. fought epic battle to teleport BoD's Defence Program to orbit and safely shoot it with Arc-en-Ciel. I expect something similar, when we try to dispose Behemoth and Leviathan.
But the Simurgh is already on orbit and, theoretically speaking, there is nothing to prevent the TSAB ship from jumping in, shooting Arc-en-Ciel and jumping out. But that would be just too simple.

So, most probably, there is something that prevents such a scenario.
Like, Arc-en-Ciel was made inoperable by dimensional dislocation and Enforcers cannot repair it in the field, or the Simurgh make some Interdiction field to prevent the TSAB ships enter Earth-Bet dimension, or she just get too close to the planet to shoot her...
Unless, of course, it was her plan all along. "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine"
 
The Simurgh always has a plan. It's just never the one you think it is.
Just checking, does this Simurgh version take the interpretation of the Travelers being summoned before the Simurgh built the Haywire Portal as evidence of Simurgh being capable of dimensional transit(which had not since been evidenced, even in the Scion fight) or as evidence of Simurgh being great at sleight of hand and having already built a smaller device that does the trick while flashily building this big ring with arcing lightning for drama purposes(which has some evidence considering she built a Fake Simurgh for Scion to annihilate dramatically)?
 
Just checking, does this Simurgh version take the interpretation of the Travelers being summoned before the Simurgh built the Haywire Portal as evidence of Simurgh being capable of dimensional transit(which had not since been evidenced, even in the Scion fight) or as evidence of Simurgh being great at sleight of hand and having already built a smaller device that does the trick while flashily building this big ring with arcing lightning for drama purposes(which has some evidence considering she built a Fake Simurgh for Scion to annihilate dramatically)?
Were the Travelers summoned before the portal machine was built? I seem to recall them being brought to Earth Bet inside a falling building.

Regardless, no, the Simurgh is not innately capable of crossing dimensions, nor are any of the Endbringers.
 
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