Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
Sure. That's never really been an issue.
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
- Start date
- Location
- Erebus
Hmm. Informative. But they've two delusions going on here.
The threat of death doesn't actually deter people. Going by studies it deters about 10% about 60% do what they'd do anyway and ignore it, and about 30% do it pluss worse because there's the threat or death. This is where the killing your mugging or rape victim came into being actually.
Psychology is weird.
Second, succeeding in Killing the criminals will stop them but it'll also get the Privateers under the laser site from... more or less everybody. Including cops and military specifically because they aren't capes.
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Alayne
The Reader
- Location
- Home of the Vikings
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
- Location
- USA
I finally rally a bandwagon of my own, and we're one itsy bitsy point short of the skill.... omake writers plz, Silently already suggested the story you could write even! (Tim talking with Dragon about Unison Devices and offering the process to her) .I don't at all understand the argument "exotic physics is useless unless we go hunt down more tinkers than we've already encountered to make use of it.......so lets keep building and upgrading power armor for the Privateers we've ignored thus far and are likely losing even with our last ditch attempt". Both actions have value contingent on future action @_@
Also, why for the love of the Dark Empress are people voting to pursue the drone at the expense of pushing back Dragon's conversion another TWO WEEKS? Do people not understand (the QM just said again, but I'd brought it up before and it was the core of my vote) that we need BOTH a 3-point unison device AND a 1-point transfer station (especially for Dragon's unique case, separate from the programming machine we already made for other devices) ?
[X] For the love of Dragon already!
-[X] BUILD: Dragon Transfer Station (1 slot)
-[X] BUILD: Unison Device - Dragon (3 slot)
[X] Mama's Need Love Too!
-[X] BUY: Energy Weapons (1 point)
-[X] BUY: Anti-Magilink Field (4 point)
Hoping that splitting it this way keeps the Build portion of the vote (due to plan name) without needing everyone to re-vote for the BUY segment i'm less committed too. The Energy Weapons are for us to be able to build Samantha a fancy hard-light weapon like Bardiche or the thing that killed us, as I seem to remember her shredding claws worked through the bone-harpoon she'd been given? Meaning weapons would be a useful upgrade for her.
The Anti-Magilink, while I know its less useful to someone like Taylor, is either a massive defensive and tactical upgrade (If we already KNOW it works on the same capes as recursion field) or a worthwhile research project (if we aren't sure yet) that might even unlock future things (trying for a more narrowly tailored version?). He could use it to try and no-sell any capes that come after us or his lab directly, it could be dropped in a sewer situation to potentially allow Brutes and/or PRT-trooper types to wade in (at least some of those beasts had powers that'd be shut, I think? Have to look up stuff to guess if it might've severed what kept them alive, or the mastering link the bio-tinker had, or whatnot) , Tim could potentially use it to shut down an enemy cape before attacking them directly with Power Armor/Energy Weapon (since those become useful again if his mage stuff is shut down, and his Gadgeteer barrier is weaker than even Calamity-Template's anyways).
Would it interfere with the Ziz-bomb effect, I wonder? (Not sure if thats a Master thing, and those are case-by-case, or if its Trump Based with her telekinesis/psychic-pressure.... doesn't seem like her Analytical Thinker powers but I could be wrong) Or provide a way to try and test/free any other troublesome Masters victims like Teacher? How about shutting down the Blaster effects of Leviathan and Behemoth, at least as far as blocking single or limited attacks before its overwhelmed, even though their Brute defenses remain?
I do not think the way you've setup your vote will lead to it being counted.
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Some folks just don't think the privateers (entirely) are a lost cause.
You should already know how the anti-Master/Simurgh stuff works, and it's not down to the anti-Magilink field.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
I, personally, prefer to spend time trying to fix Privateers than trying to hire Blasto or arrange a meeting with Bonesaw or Bakuda.
My main reason to oppose to Exotic Physics is that I don't see how it can be useful.
Tim already has a potential to be the greatest Tinker of Earth. He's hindered by our uncreativeness, not by a lack of his abilities.
What do you want Tim to build that he can't build without it?
I think AMF can prevent Master from mastering someone, but can't do anything to help people already Ziz'd, Teachered or Valefored.
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
That might work if people had just voted for your plan name. They didn't.
Also, I'm not a fan of splitting the plan up into a build plan and a buy plan.
As a point of order, hard light weapons do not transmit Shredding Claw. It needs to be a solid object composed of matter, not energy. That said, LancerisDead proposed building her Pyrrha's Milo from RWBY, which would definitely work and would be a good use of the Energy Weapons skill to give her some ranged ability.
This is not in plan format, and it won't be counted.
That would be interesting to try out. I just feel the need to point out that it would also put Tim in what is probably much too close of range to an angry Endbringer.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
He can build generators of AMF, right?
So he don't need to be close?
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
Then it's everybody else who gets to be powerless next to a furious city-wrecking monster. Again, it would be interesting to see, but wow, that's be a risky strategy.
- Location
- Erebus
And firing in on one of Dragons ships at the endbringer wouldn't be enough to nullify them, would it..?
Also, renting it out to police and military alongside one of out technitions and an NDA would allow the balance of power to change. Given your suggestion it nullifies most parahuman powers, not just magic.
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Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
You do know you're just encouraging this, right?
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Yes, yes you do.
Funny in the thread
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- Location
- USA
They may not be....but it would require further actions into it, the same as seeking out useful tinkers?
Off the top of my head, how about swiping that Teleport-belt off of Mr. Fantastic from Chicago, to hand to non-mage allies ? Don't suppose we'll see it again soon (and no idea if theres enough traces in the sewers) or I'd say that anti-Breaker weapon the Winter Hill cooked up. I wonder if we could get a look at Armsmaster's truth-analyzing Visor , maybe by trading him a mass-shifting weapon of Tim's make (no idea if he can get anything out of mage tech besides inspiration maybe) , unless its a terrible diplomatic faux pas to wear that during negotiations with say a foreign leader (Admiral) or others?
Just doesn't seem to be the way the voting crowd in this Quest works, unlike a lot of others.... more copy-paste and never coming back to follow vote, and a lot of vote splitting as a result. Hard to ever revise votes with new discussion or QM comments on vote if you can't safely make edits.
I wasn't talking about the specific method devices give to block it, which is a matter of it basically occupying the channels/ports they'd normally use with the link to the Device. I was talking about using it for other people, say afterwards....
Might have been unclear, I was asking/speculating on whether it could be used /afterwards/. That is, for ongoing effects (though Simurgh may be more of a permanent rewiring of the brain thats considered Instant rather than Persistent, and thus more in Panacea's wheelhouse to try and fix).
Alternately, depending on the area of effect (If i want our pet gadgeteer to do anything for us, its figure out how to repgrogram the range on spells to be smaller xD if thats as feasible as tweaking the fire-to-force ratio of Flare Shooters or anything) , might this be a useful addition or replacement to Dragon's Endbringer-Armbands? If you hit Yellow Level it pops the anti-magilink field in a small radius, and then if you don't manage to flee in time and you hit Red it still explodes you, or whatever.
Although.... mention of AMF generators here, and then earlier you mentioned teleporting weapons and armor (but not star trek teleporters) .... so I am feeling unclear on the FAQ that seems to indicate a hard rule against any Tim-tech that replicates spells.
Always Late
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Well, Silently Watches list of Tinkers who would be useful under Exotic Effects was kinda to show that those who would are already met, dead, or not people we'd work with anyway.
... do you not actually know Worm, or are you trolling?
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
That's just programming. Tim could do this on his own if he really wanted.
Ah. No, an AMF field wouldn't do any good at that point.
Hmm. That could be interesting, though it would take some working with. I'm going to give this idea a firm maybe.
I got very, very tired of constantly being asked questions that all boiled down to "Can Tim build a non-Device piece of tech that uses catridges so people who don't have Linker Cores can use magic?". Giving a ban on them but allowing certain tech on a case-by-case basis was easier and less stressful than my feelings of "No, no, no, no no no NO!!!".
- Location
- USA
My total knowledge of Worm comes from idly browsing the wiki and radically-AU fanfiction like this (I have no intent to ever read the story proper as its far too depressing, its why I read stuff that drastically shifts the tone with Outside-Context-Problems or intentionally comedic takes).
So, I have no idea whats wrong with what I said ^_^ Unless its maybe that you take Glory Girl/Khepri as a reason not to do this thing? (Is it better or worse than exploding them on the spot xD)
Part of the problem right here. The wiki is notoriously inaccurate on many things (tvtropes is better in that respect).
This is the other part of the problem. Willful ignorance of at least a full half of the crossover does not reflect well on you here imo.
- Location
- Erebus
It would be totally within her powers. She just doesn't want to. Though given she's now in PRT custody and they've been clued into her massive scope, she may be getting some psychologists and ziz-bombs to work with. It's not totally out of the question.
More to the point though, when did Cranial die? That was more or less her thing as I remember.
Archeo Lumiere
The Prince's Archivist
- Location
- Lumiose City, Kalos
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Give me a few minutes. I'll pm you something.
She's too unstable mentally, and doesn't have the fine control.