Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
And people continue to be enamoured with Tinkertech.
So let me express my opinion: Tim's Tinkertech tree is useless for us.
There was exactly one time Tim collaborated with a Tinker. It happened when Dragon invited us to go fishing, and we took Tim with us. It happened exactly one month (or two arcs) ago. The result of this collaboration still lies unfinished in Tim's inventory.
Very useful, hmm?
Now people want to buy Exotic Physics.
It will let Tim to study Tinkertech, understand it underlying principles and use them in his new designs. Seems cool?
Well, yes. Trouble is, the only Tinker friendly to us is Dragon, and her tech is really not so exotic to demand special skill for understanding.
And we don't know will she be willing to help Tim to acquire other Tinkers gadgets for study.
...Actually, why not to ask?
@Silently Watches, let's imagine we already have Exotic Physics. Let's imagine we want Tim to study some Tinkertech teleports so he can build stuff like Kid Win's Alternator cannon. Will this be a valid vote for Tim's build time?
[] Plan Tim and Tinkertech
-[] Ask Dragon to put you in contact with some Tinker with teleportation speciality to acquire their work and study it.
[X] Plan Drones for the Drones Throne
-[X] BUY: Energy Weapon
-[X] BUY: Subdermal Voltaic Lattice
-[X] Finish Dragon's sensory drone
-[X] Build another one
So let me express my opinion: Tim's Tinkertech tree is useless for us.
There was exactly one time Tim collaborated with a Tinker. It happened when Dragon invited us to go fishing, and we took Tim with us. It happened exactly one month (or two arcs) ago. The result of this collaboration still lies unfinished in Tim's inventory.
Very useful, hmm?
Now people want to buy Exotic Physics.
It will let Tim to study Tinkertech, understand it underlying principles and use them in his new designs. Seems cool?
Well, yes. Trouble is, the only Tinker friendly to us is Dragon, and her tech is really not so exotic to demand special skill for understanding.
And we don't know will she be willing to help Tim to acquire other Tinkers gadgets for study.
...Actually, why not to ask?
@Silently Watches, let's imagine we already have Exotic Physics. Let's imagine we want Tim to study some Tinkertech teleports so he can build stuff like Kid Win's Alternator cannon. Will this be a valid vote for Tim's build time?
[] Plan Tim and Tinkertech
-[] Ask Dragon to put you in contact with some Tinker with teleportation speciality to acquire their work and study it.
[X] Plan Drones for the Drones Throne
-[X] BUY: Energy Weapon
-[X] BUY: Subdermal Voltaic Lattice
-[X] Finish Dragon's sensory drone
-[X] Build another one
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
That shock Baton was just charged enough to get through Sam's fircefield. Like Tim said, not much special about the suits, and he got a point for the next armor upgrade from analyzing the suits already.
Correct.
No, you have to have enough points to buy it outright. It's why you can save your points.
You ALREADY got points from analyzing Richter's tech, namely Dragon's own thought process during the fishing trip. It was put into Advanced Devices, I believe.
I put the Tinkertech branch there in case you guys wanted to go Tinker-hunting, just so you'd have another option for future activities. Asking Dragon to give you her scraps is just a little pathetic.
And regarding the Alternator Cannon, I would tell you no more because Tim has a skill for building large weapons like that. Tim can do a lot of stuff all on his own, like make his own lasers instead of copying the one Danny bought from Coil, just no one ever asks. It's been "build another suit of armor" every time.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
To clarify, I meant its teleportation mechanism, so Tim could build something like teleportation grenade or power armor which teleports to Privateer wherever he is.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
If you want him to be able to build weapons or armor that teleport to their user, he can build something that does that all on his own without analyzing Tinkertech. He has a teleportation spell, as seen in his character sheet and this last chapter.
As I know I've mentioned before, Exotic Physics is for Tinkertech that he cannot possibly leverage one of his other skills towards replicating. Bakuda's weird physic-breaking bombs, Blasto's clones since Tim can't do genetic engineering, that sort of thing. The number of Tinkers who do that is very, very small.
Don't really know what to build and not liking the current plans, so:
[X] Dealer's choice
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
Ah, so he is capable to build something like that!
I just dimly remembered you said no when someone suggested Tim to build a teleporter...
Sorry.
To all the people voting for [] For the love of Dragon already!
1. Exotic Physics is useless for us, unless you plan to spend Taylor's actions to hunt for really exotic Tinkers.
2. You cannot buy Exotic Physics because we don't have enough Tech points.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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- Right behind you
I think I said that regarding Star Trek-style teleporters. Call your weapon to you teleporters I view differently since the mechanics would be easier.
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Hmmm. Question - assuming we want to go that way, is "Iron Man Armor" with all its bells and whistles - onboard AI, repulsor beams, high speed flight, durability, advanced compact power source, et cetera - feasible?
I mean, it obviously needs at least Energy Weapons to get the repulsor beams, but what about other things?
And will it even be half as reliable as Iron Man movies show us?
I mean, it obviously needs at least Energy Weapons to get the repulsor beams, but what about other things?
And will it even be half as reliable as Iron Man movies show us?
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
It'd be pretty expensive, both in a material and time-frame cost. We'd, in overly simple terms, be combining the production of power armor and several mecha-shift weapons, energy or otherwise. It'd almost be at the point where artisanal hand-crafting is more appropriate a descriptor than any kind of industrial production. If the point of Tim is to eventually equip a relatively moderate force with weapons to fight enemy capes and Endbringers, it's too much. If we're attempting to make a new 'hero' when shard powers and Devices exist, it'd be so limited in circumstance as to be an even more expensive one-off than Unison Dragon.
- Location
- Russia
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
- Location
- Russia
Is this one, finally, correctly built?
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
You need to tag the QM. Otherwise you just need to hope they come across it before the bandwagon catches on. If it does.
- Location
- Erebus
given SW's regular quotes.............no. Not at all. It won't be useful as armor, it can't be a backup shield projector, flight is better done by you and your device, AI is your device. We don't know a whole lot about energy weapons yet, but he's said they're nothing when set beside your device, even if it wasn't perfect storm.
Basically it's a massive upgrade for people without magic, but useless to mages. I think this is silly, but then there's alot I've been learning about Nanoha that seems ridiculously built.
Demojay
Yes, let's put an end to this
- Location
- UK
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
I'm curious, what is the point of the drone? Tim isn't in combat that often.
- Location
- Erebus
Ive said this before, but the point is the Privateers. Giving them laser guns they'll just become every other murderous gang. Multipurpose drones tricked out by Tim and Dragon OTOH offers them a place on the field and smooths over the "long live the king" plotline so we may actually be able to do something.
Something tells me they won't be enthused by a mostly nonlethal weapon system.
- Location
- Erebus
shrug if they can stungun and then tie up an entire drug den or weapons warehouse, steal the money, flush the drugs, dismantle the weapons and turn the criminals over to the cops they can achieve the same thing without getting a bad rep.
Personally I'd just call in Taylor for tactical bombardment, but I'm former military, and she/they aren't.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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- Right behind you
It's interesting that you bring up Iron Man. The DFNS-A suits Tim's already built? They look like the Mark I suit but lack weapons like the Mark II. I actually designed the Gadgeteer tree where you could play the character like Q from Bond fame, like Tony Stark, or somewhere in between.
But to answer your question. A pseudo–Iron Man with folding armor, lasers in the hands, thrusters, armor upgrades to make it more durable, and a connection to Tim and his coordination AI? Very feasible.
Material-wise, not as much as you might think. It helps that Tim has a micro foundry that can liquify and separate different materials so you can accumulate a lot of resources from scrap.
Time-wise, yes, it will be more of an investment. Three builds probably, four if you want a ton of bells and whistles.
It is correctly built, but you'll have to wait until next week to build the transfer mechanism to actually turn Dragon into a Unison Device.
It's not the weapons or lack thereof that are the issue. Some of the Privateers feel that if the system in place isn't enough to deter the villains, they should just be killed so they're no longer a threat.
- Location
- Russia
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
I'm finally locking my choice in this.
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
I'm finally locking my choice in this.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
1eragon33
an Island of crazy in a sea of normality
- Location
- dallas
I'm changing my vote if it is allowed
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice
[X] Plan Droning Sessions
-[X] 3 TU - Work with Dragon on her Unison Device conversion process.
-[X] 1 TU - Build an offensive oriented drone and hook it up to the command center. Primary armament should be stunning energy blasts, with options to dial up the yield for brutes
-[X] Buy Energy Weapons 1 Point
-[X] Buy Subdermal Energy Lattice