Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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- Right behind you
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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I only follow her stories, so I forgot about those honestly. Surprised I forgot the FF one though, suplex time and Anima were good scenes.
- Location
- Kansas
If no fix if found for Danny before then, I guess Tim could just turn him into a Nanoha style cyborg.
HammerHeart
Good Dog
- Location
- Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
[X] Learn Frost Beam
- Location
- Erebus
Generally when I use logic, you give me some snide comment, tell me it's 'OP pls nerf' and move on. So, asking how much you're willing to allow for a power, even with the description is still valid.
Thankyou for the spoiled omake however.
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- Location
- Buffalo, NY, USA
[X] Learn Burst
Words can't describe how elated I was when I saw the first few votes for Burst. Then I read the next few pages of votes and discussions.
OK, I'll admit that Telekinesis is tempting, more for what's hiding behind it then the skill itself, but seriously? We've already lost what? Two or three battles we could have won easily if we'd only had Burst. Silently Watches has straight out confirmed that it would have helped us twice.
We're losing battles we could win, and making the victories we get harder than they have to be, by not having Burst.
And we've just seen evidence of the damage even a non-lethal solar wrath can do, we need to up the power of our less... collateral damage inducing attacks.
Oh wait...
Just ask Cauldron.
Words can't describe how elated I was when I saw the first few votes for Burst. Then I read the next few pages of votes and discussions.
OK, I'll admit that Telekinesis is tempting, more for what's hiding behind it then the skill itself, but seriously? We've already lost what? Two or three battles we could have won easily if we'd only had Burst. Silently Watches has straight out confirmed that it would have helped us twice.
We're losing battles we could win, and making the victories we get harder than they have to be, by not having Burst.
And we've just seen evidence of the damage even a non-lethal solar wrath can do, we need to up the power of our less... collateral damage inducing attacks.
I don't know. What could Skitter, whose only power was to control insects, have done to stop Phir Se from launching that massive collection of solar energy at Behemoth causing him to wipe out most of India?
Oh wait...
Alternate realities have so many uses.
Just ask Cauldron.
Vote Tally : Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha) | Page 380 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 9489-9558]
##### NetTally 1.9.9
[X] Learn Frost Beam
No. of Votes: 13
[X] Learn Ring Bind
No. of Votes: 10
[X] Learn Telekinesis
No. of Votes: 8
[X] Learn Burst
No. of Votes: 5
Total No. of Voters: 36
##### NetTally 1.9.9
[X] Learn Frost Beam
No. of Votes: 13
No. of Votes: 10
No. of Votes: 8
[X] Learn Burst
No. of Votes: 5
Total No. of Voters: 36
LancerisDead
Definitely not a cat
- Location
- Buenos Aires
It's all battlefield control, really. Though I don't think Telekinesis would add that much to what we can already do. I prefer Frost Beam a lot more than either, it unlocks another skill and is a nice control spell on non-lethal, even if it doesn't discriminate against allies.
Oh wait...Alternate realities have so many uses.
Just ask Cauldron.
See?! Someone gets it! It's not why you want a shady secret base full of criminal evidence, it's why wouldn't you!
@UberJJK, you sneaky bastard! I was just about to post that tally!
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- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
What can I say? I concur. With the Beasts battle in the nearest future, we're getting another spell anyway, and in that battle, area denial works better than area attacks.
[X] Learn Frost Beam
Silently, you might also need to consider the part where we convinced Perfect Storm to contact TSAB again, despite the aforementioned lockdown - for 30 seconds, but still. I always considered that event proof that we do have sovereign-level authorization, and that we did exercise it when contacting TSAB the second time.
In other words, Storm will probably refuse initially, but will do its thing if we insist.
There's no telling however how much of Danny will be left in the attempt, because Perfect Storm gotta Immortal Assimilation Engine in such a situation.
- Location
- Erebus
Combed through the list. No mention of telekinesis. Reread all of the training scenarios. No mention of telekinesis. Combed through the other omake with ctrl-f, still not finding telekinesis.
Frost beam yes. Burst even, under the bombardment training. But no telekinesis. As usual when you reply, snide, annoying and not particularly useful.
Firedon
Lazy Sleepy Cat
- Location
- Germany
Sorry, but I don't see how you missed it when you crtl-f'ed for telekinesis.
Right there at the bottom of the quote (Middle of the Flare skill tree, but I didn't feel the need to copy Solar Wrath as well), we'd be getting it at 2/2, which is mastered and the given max mass is caster x2.
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- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
My guesses on spells that still hidden:
Under Ring Bind - Bind Mine, it's Nanoha's favourite trick, after all.
Under Telekinesis - a healing spell, because it doesn't fit with other spells.
Under Frost Beam and Temporal Sludge - some other batllefield control spell (maybe Anti-Magilink Field?)
Under Divide Energy - a spell, that let us vampire energy and help with Ragnarok... or Anti-Magilink Field.
@Silently Watches
A question about Anti-Magilink Field.
It's situated in Tim's Utility skill tree, so, I presume, it's a spell, not a gadget. And you said several times that spells couldn't be turn into gadgets.
But in StrikerS Anti-Magilink Field was used by Gadget Drones and Cradle, while they couldn't use spells by definition.
So... what's up with this?
Under Ring Bind - Bind Mine, it's Nanoha's favourite trick, after all.
Under Telekinesis - a healing spell, because it doesn't fit with other spells.
Under Frost Beam and Temporal Sludge - some other batllefield control spell (maybe Anti-Magilink Field?)
Under Divide Energy - a spell, that let us vampire energy and help with Ragnarok... or Anti-Magilink Field.
@Silently Watches
A question about Anti-Magilink Field.
It's situated in Tim's Utility skill tree, so, I presume, it's a spell, not a gadget. And you said several times that spells couldn't be turn into gadgets.
But in StrikerS Anti-Magilink Field was used by Gadget Drones and Cradle, while they couldn't use spells by definition.
So... what's up with this?
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Man oh man, @Solusandra. You've really done it this time. Not reading the character sheet in the first place, shit-talking @Silently Watches, and now you've either lied or completely failed to successfully use a simple ctrl-f search.
Now, I can absolutely be snide at times, and I know I annoy some folks... but all that means nothing when you are your own worst enemy.
Now, I can absolutely be snide at times, and I know I annoy some folks... but all that means nothing when you are your own worst enemy.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
I'm snide with you because you consistently ask questions that are answered in the character sheets, which you clearly don't look at despite repeated suggestions to do just that. I reply in the same tone to everyone who does this. If you have an actual question, one that is not spelled out for you in the character sheets, I would be happy to answer it just like I do for anyone else who asks real questions.
From StrikerS, it sounded like an AMF was a phenomenon much like a magnetic field. We can artificially create magnetic fields, and they can artificially create anti-magic fields via technology or spells.
I put down a blanket ban on tech replicating spells because I was getting frustrated with people asking "What about building this? Or this? Or this?" when it was always stuff that I had already said no to (the bind-casting batons) and especially things I had also already provided you (guns that fired Shooter spells when no one had invested anything in the weapon branch that had energy weapons right there if you would just invest your points in it!). A blanket ban was the quickest and easiest way to shut that down.
For AMF and POSSIBLY teleporters, I am willing to give you an okay on ONLY because they are in the show, though I won't make it easy. Otherwise you are limited to what would fit within his build skills.
- Location
- Buffalo, NY, USA
How is being able to shoot a dozen+ blasts that all blow up to beachball sized explosions, at the same time as any other spell, not battlefield control?
A wall of beachball sized explosions is a pretty decent area denial attack.
Too bad really, because a Temporal Sludge landmine would have fit all the original criteria SW had listed for tech casting spells (AKA pretty much no variables whatsoever, except field radius, so no mage needed to do calculations), and been WAY more tactically effective than many of the ideas we had come up with...
Guys, Ring bind is almost a necessity at this point. Its exceptionally useful for bombardment, and makes catching (and holding) criminals far easier. Most have no way to stop it, and we have damn well put it off long enough for more dakka.
Frost beam is nice but we need more utility not more dakka variety.
Frost beam is nice but we need more utility not more dakka variety.
Also, isn't it Worm canon that Bakuda had built something similar with tinkertech?
I assume then that if we hypothetically managed to somehow (unlikely since I'm pretty sure Bakuda was pushing up the daisies after the Simurgh and presumably her lab is slagged) get our hands on one of those time stasis bombs, it would NOT be possible for Tim to reverse-engineer it into a magitech equivalent because there is a spell that does the same thing.
LancerisDead
Definitely not a cat
- Location
- Buenos Aires
Frost Beam does all that you pointed up above and has overall more use than a very situation-specific spell like Ring Bind.
Also, could we get an update on Bakuda's whereabouts, @Silently Watches?
Lunasmeow
Verified Dragon Deity
- Location
- Tirana, Albania
- Pronouns
- Lord/Master
To be fair, as a comm guy, most people do one of two things when they see "computer stuff" that they don't understand.
1. Hit EXACTLY the one thing they absolutely shouldn't and ruin ALL THE THINGS!
2. Freak the hell out and refuse to touch anything at all.
I'll take 2 over 1 any day. Yes, she could have asked Storm to do things (and I'd take that over both 1 & 2 because Storm is more than competent) but people really do freak and do stupid shit when faced with computer code.
Storm REALLY needs to start getting us magi-tech literate. The tech part of that is especially important. Normally a Sovereign doesn't require this, but Taylor's "Court" is currently lacking very many competent workers who don't also have other loyalties. In this situation, "if you want something done, you've got to do it yourself" applies.
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- Location
- USA
Stray amusing thought, with us likely helping to fight Beasts in Philly next week (grief-downtime or not, she's got limited choices there).
How might Cailleach react to watching us use Frost Beam alongside her?
Anyways, interesting info on Telekinesis. Not too bad, but still largely limited. And more out-there from our known-to-PRT powerset wheras Frost Beam fits some of the elementalism and slowing effects we've shown.
But yeah, i remember a minor Healing spell mentioned early on by SW (like, bruise level) but don't have time to search this morning. Still a possibility for under TK, doesn't sound as great to me.
How might Cailleach react to watching us use Frost Beam alongside her?
Anyways, interesting info on Telekinesis. Not too bad, but still largely limited. And more out-there from our known-to-PRT powerset wheras Frost Beam fits some of the elementalism and slowing effects we've shown.
But yeah, i remember a minor Healing spell mentioned early on by SW (like, bruise level) but don't have time to search this morning. Still a possibility for under TK, doesn't sound as great to me.