OctarineShrike
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Another thing we forgot. The Adepts. We should figure out about giving them lessons soon.
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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Speaking of arc9's social, would it be resonable for us to ask the visiting mages a favor and send them after the Adepts? If absolutely nothing else, the TSAB may be able to use the extra mana or gears to speed the repair of their ship.
I only suggest this, because IC we're sorta dragging our feet in the whole thing, and foisting one problem off on another amuses me.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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They were promised we'd train them. By ditching them at the TSAB's feet, I'd expect to not only aggravate them, but also throw away whatever possibility we had of turning them into device'd up minions.
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- Erebus
I am aware of this, yes. But given we've more or less done the same thing to every other potential, these guys are villains and Taylor still somehow clings to a fairly classic hero morality, It seems a wash anyway.
I would reluctantly train the Adepts if and only if Epoch revises his view of "I don't care how they use magic, only that they use it".
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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Oh, you totally could. From Epoch's perspective, learning magic from Calamity Witch and learning magic from the TSAB is the same thing: the Adepts are still learning magic. The TSAB would be fine with it because now they have potential new recruits as well as new contacts for information on Earth Bet with whom they have not made a bad first impression. The downsides? You won't be able to recruit them for your own purposes, and you will feel terrible if something goes wrong and one of the Adepts spills the information and kicks off a war. Plus Dragon will disapprove of you starting a war.
Then again, it is the Adepts, so who would believe them?
After all, it isn't like former Cauldron believe in magic and are awaiting alien soldiers…
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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1. Uh... no we haven't. We still have Lacy.
2. If you're so disbelieving that Taylor's still not viewing everything as a shade of grey, then recruiting the Adepts should be an incentive for you. She's even taken a blow to that after the TSAB meeting.
Silently Watches
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That's a dangerous remark to make considering the winning vote back in 7.x to work with the Adepts. I said at that time that I will push you into the matter if you don't take charge fast enough. I meant it.
I mean, I would love to write what happens if you don't get involved until it's too late, don't get me wrong. But you guys might not like it as much.
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- Earth
i'd like to recruit the adepts and curtail their villainous tendencies.
as far as they know, we have a monopoly on magic knowledge.
this gives us a very good position to treat with them. unique product which they are very interested in.
I'd like to make it clear to them, that we are a hero and won't like it if they use what we teach them to commit crimes.
I'd be fine with letting them be rogues if they want. But if they use what we teach them to commit crimes, we'll make them regret it.
State that upfront and everyone who doesn't agree with that can go, and you won't go after them anymore than any other villains.
as such we should do that first meeting rather soon.
as far as they know, we have a monopoly on magic knowledge.
this gives us a very good position to treat with them. unique product which they are very interested in.
I'd like to make it clear to them, that we are a hero and won't like it if they use what we teach them to commit crimes.
I'd be fine with letting them be rogues if they want. But if they use what we teach them to commit crimes, we'll make them regret it.
State that upfront and everyone who doesn't agree with that can go, and you won't go after them anymore than any other villains.
as such we should do that first meeting rather soon.
*shrugs*
I'm aware. However, teaching magic to those Adepts with a penchant for committing criminal activity is outright stupid to me.
- Location
- Earth
as far as we know the adepts are a mixed bag(at least one recruited ward, i think)
on another note, we should give Lacey a template. can we use the reactor we use for the radio to reduce our downtime?
I'm aware, it's why I used "those" to imply a subset of the group, rather than the article "the".
Timerider
That guy who really should get out more.
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- The End of the World.
I would suggest training the adepts while having someone from the Protecterate overseeing us and the process. We don't need to say "become good guys or I don't teach you." Just make sure the adepts know that the powers-that-be are keeping tabs on their new skills. I am having a hard time saying what I have in mind in depth, so any additional suggestions?
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- Erebus
How would this work exactly? I know the earth is even more of a fractured mess of warring tribes in Earth Bet than it is here, but unless the war is over scooping up the Gears so that the country who holds them can manufacture superheroes I'm not following. Not sure even that would work anyway because despite TSAB being effectively cut off, this group can still dimension hop to a world that knows jack all about what the Adepts shared.
True, but despite our agreement and the effort we've been puting into Tim learning and making devices we still haven't called them in during the days or weeks between MS13 fights for support, equipping, or just tying them up so they can't perform villainy while they're learning template magic.
We as always late was eager to point out to me, we've still got Lacy, and it was suggested, Vista hanging around without devices.
If we were serious about recruiting one would thing we'd do something like call the Police together and offer them their own capes, on the condition you could be their captain.
Same with the PRT, though that's something of a longer shot.
Not that they wouldn't be ecstatic to have the troopers upgraded or fully supportive of calamity doing so, I put the low likelihood on Taylor. And perhaps the Directors putting extra vetting processes on those who test positive.
Edit: Of course, if Taylor were following my personal logic, we'd have taken gear as either our first or second specialization and be recruiting citizens left and right to try and flood out the villains all the way back in the Brocton Bay arcs. But maybe I'm just silly.
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Guys, I wasn't here when the war about wanting Taylor to stay alive happened and it unfortunately got locked before I could say anything so hence this reply.
Please take note that this is just me voicing my thoughts on the happenings of the previous 8.10 not me wanting to restart the debate.
Unlike everyone, I was actually elated when Taylor died and was downright disappointed when it was retconned because of the reactions to it. Why? Because her death is very much a turning point to the story and a massive clusterfuck/oh shit! moment for the TSAB when they found out who's body it was that they dragged inside. Not to mention Taylor waking up to find that she took over someone's body or waking up to a clone body of hers with Perfect Storm explaining everything and realizing that she's very much an immortal due to it.
That I believe would be a lot much more dramatic not to mention if they managed to capture Sam alive too.
BTW: Since Perfect Storm is Immortal Assimilation Engine does this mean that even if IAE was destroyed it will come back like the Tome of the Night Sky every time?
Well, that's that.
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I was actually hoping that Taylor would stay dead only for Eos to notice that despite that fact, her body continued to heal itself until she woke back up.
Which would explain why it is taking Perfect Storm an absurdly long time for her to be free of the bindings. Perfect Storm said that its taking her 20 mins to break the seal after she's placed on Taylor's hand. The reasoning for that is because I thought that Intelligent Devices never turn off. They just go into sleep mode but is still otherwise active even when in enemy's hands wich would be absurd that it is still taking her 20 mins even after the time that Taylor's dead.
Oh well, the above doesn't really matter anyway.
But since that didn't happen I still found it odd that it still is taking that long to break free. I couldn't help but think Raising Heart 5 mins. to break such a binding, less if Nanoha's awake. Wich could mean that Perfect Storm had been slogging longer than that.
Also could it be that Queenie is the one trapped?
Please take note that this is just me voicing my thoughts on the happenings of the previous 8.10 not me wanting to restart the debate.
Unlike everyone, I was actually elated when Taylor died and was downright disappointed when it was retconned because of the reactions to it. Why? Because her death is very much a turning point to the story and a massive clusterfuck/oh shit! moment for the TSAB when they found out who's body it was that they dragged inside. Not to mention Taylor waking up to find that she took over someone's body or waking up to a clone body of hers with Perfect Storm explaining everything and realizing that she's very much an immortal due to it.
That I believe would be a lot much more dramatic not to mention if they managed to capture Sam alive too.
BTW: Since Perfect Storm is Immortal Assimilation Engine does this mean that even if IAE was destroyed it will come back like the Tome of the Night Sky every time?
Well, that's that.
@8.11
I was actually hoping that Taylor would stay dead only for Eos to notice that despite that fact, her body continued to heal itself until she woke back up.
Which would explain why it is taking Perfect Storm an absurdly long time for her to be free of the bindings. Perfect Storm said that its taking her 20 mins to break the seal after she's placed on Taylor's hand. The reasoning for that is because I thought that Intelligent Devices never turn off. They just go into sleep mode but is still otherwise active even when in enemy's hands wich would be absurd that it is still taking her 20 mins even after the time that Taylor's dead.
Oh well, the above doesn't really matter anyway.
But since that didn't happen I still found it odd that it still is taking that long to break free. I couldn't help but think Raising Heart 5 mins. to break such a binding, less if Nanoha's awake. Wich could mean that Perfect Storm had been slogging longer than that.
Also could it be that Queenie is the one trapped?
Impossible. If we had actually been killed, Sam would have died as well.
Possibly though I thought that she'll revert back to a racoon with traces of memory.
Silently Watches
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I wasn't talking about an interdimensional war with the PRT, though I can see where you could have gotten that idea. I was talking about an international war on Earth Bet.
Say a dumb Adept reveals that aliens and magic are both a thing, with video evidence to prove that no, this isn't pretend it's actually happening. It gets out that magic is a learned skill independent of parahuman powers and that 5% of the population is capable of it. Other countries find out about this. Places like Russia, which canonically is not fond of the US. CUI, same thing. North Korea, which is not canonically mentioned but I expect is still controlled by a bunch of whackjobs. Somebody gets the bright idea that if something isn't done right now, the Demon of the West is going to turn a twentieth of its population into supersoldiers. Attempts are made to stop the information from being spread. Mistakes are made. Tensions rise. War.
Probably not the direction most people want this quest to go, and honestly I don't think I'd be able to write it with the gravitas this kind of subject deserves.
It's on you and the other players to decide whether or not to recruit people. I pushed the issue as far as I'm going to by introducing the Adepts as its own arc-quest. If you want to scan and train up more people, you need to convince the naysayers to your side.
Nope. Guardian Beasts and Familiars die when their mages do.
Alayne
The Reader
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- Home of the Vikings
No she just dies.
Crusader Jerome
Subsisting on Supplication
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- My home away from Rome
[X] Plan Base Upgrade
LancerisDead
Definitely not a cat
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- Buenos Aires
Now I'm really tempted to forgo the Adepts completely. Oh, it'd be horrible and awful and a ton of people are gonna die.
On the other hand, Magical World War while the TSAB tries to run damage control plus the chaos the Endbringers would add just sounds like it'd be really entertaining to watch/suffer through.
Maybe an avenue to explore once the quest's over?
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- Erebus
AH! makes sense now. It's not an arms race, with kidnapping that wouldn't work, it's gang up and attack the other guy before he can deploy the nukes. Right.
I'd offer this may be averted by making most of that 20th into gears, because infrastructure capes would be too tied up with civilian thingy, but a booming economy is also a reason to declare war on someone, historically speaking.
Indeed. hmm. Well, I tried a few times after the Pokemon Go omake came out, but I can try again in further votes.
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Pokemon Go omake?
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- Erebus
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- Buffalo, NY, USA
Ah, that one. Not sure how it links to Pokemon Go, but I know that omake.