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In addition to Late's post, they are unconscious.
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
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In addition to Late's post, they are unconscious.
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In addition to what the two above me said, I think you mixed up OOC and IC. In Character, we might suspect they have a hidden ace or send a signal to destroy the base. Out Of Character, there's your idea of a Ascalon kill switch.
lancelot
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And if they wake up while still in the armor, unbound, PRT arresting them, and we're gone what the hell do you think they'll do? What is it with players on this thread and half assing plans constantly.
Always Late
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I highly doubt their armor is at all functional given it's been ripped to pieces:
The only real concern is that mage and Samantha will still be there.
RoninSword
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And I believe the idea that Ascalon can be hooked up to their armour is pervasive fanon.
Always Late
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And explicitly ruled out for the quest by the QM.
lancelot
Completely worth it
It's still linked to their base and the computers there which is how we know about the base.
It isn't in their armor, but it can send the execute command to the program that is at their base. The real question should always be 'is it worth the risk to not be sure'?
Actually it hasn't explicitly been ruled out, as far as I can tell, it's just been implicitly ruled out:
Always Late
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No lancelot. The real question is:
Why do you keep insisting on being in-the-know when you're not?
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I'm abstaining from this vote, but it would have been to stay and talk to the PRT, and deal with Saint's base afterwards, but then I remembered that we'll likely be busy dealing with the aftermath of TSAB meeting Earth-Bet via Endbringer, without us there to facilitate things. Quickly turned into a choice that has strong negatives on both sides...
I honestly think that we need to stay talk to the PRT about this, because of Truce reasons, but at the same time, this may be our only chance to get Richter's black box, and with it the means to unchain Dragon (if not directly given in the Black Box, then through Tim's learning the tech via Digital Blueprints).
My personal preference would have been us staying to deal with the PRT, and sending Sam (or Sam and Tim) to check out Saint's base, but that option was shot down by SW already...
Not to say all the planning is a bad thing, SW has freely admitted to altering her plans because something we discussed (that didn't win the vote) was better than what she had planned; but I get the impression that SW has a basic idea of the positives and negatives that she wants to give us for each choice in each vote, and our attempts as micromanaging votes often seem to run counter to her plans.
I honestly think that we need to stay talk to the PRT about this, because of Truce reasons, but at the same time, this may be our only chance to get Richter's black box, and with it the means to unchain Dragon (if not directly given in the Black Box, then through Tim's learning the tech via Digital Blueprints).
My personal preference would have been us staying to deal with the PRT, and sending Sam (or Sam and Tim) to check out Saint's base, but that option was shot down by SW already...
We can do that?
IC we have absolutely no reason to suspect Saint has a kill switch for Dragon. All we know (suspect) is Dragon is an AI, and Saint can hack her.
I actually find that most of our (non-dice related) problems have seemed to stem from going into FAR too many specifics with the plans. Things seem to work out better when we lay down a general plan (or go with one of SW's given votes) and let SW worry about the details.
Not to say all the planning is a bad thing, SW has freely admitted to altering her plans because something we discussed (that didn't win the vote) was better than what she had planned; but I get the impression that SW has a basic idea of the positives and negatives that she wants to give us for each choice in each vote, and our attempts as micromanaging votes often seem to run counter to her plans.
We still don't know if the TSAB did show up at the Endbringer fight. Even if they did we wouldn't be dealing with the aftermath of them showing up.
When everyone gets back from the Endbringer attack Miss Militia, or possibly Alexandria since she does want to talk to Taylor, will be calling us to tell us that Captain is dead. Even with the way their relationship has recently fallen apart Taylor is going to be far too busy grieving to deal with anything else.
Silently Watches
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Fine, then let me state this explicitly. THERE IS NO REMOTE KILL SWITCH. To use Ascalon, Saint has to give the command WHILE IN THE BASE. Iron Maiden/Ascalon is self-contained, and Saint doesn't understand how the code works and can't replicate it, much as he's tried.
No, you tapped into the GPS data in Saint's suit to determine where it spends most of its time. That's why the option is listed as Saint's possible base, because you don't know for sure that's what it is. For all Taylor knows, he could keep his suit at home when he isn't using it or maybe in the back of a truck parked at his workplace, in which case teleporting to those coordinates will land her in those places.
They didn't.
Fate and Arf talked through the same kind of screens in TOS/Movie 1st. I assume, though it's never outright stated to be the case, that familiars can do this because they're connected to their mages' Devices through their mages themselves. In this case, it wouldn't be Taylor creating the screen but Samantha creating one so Taylor could talk to the PRT, but no one would believe Samantha was responsible since it would clearly be a Tinker's work.
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Always Late
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Lemme take a new tack here: Better to let Dragon decide his fate.
Or we could, and I know this will sound crazy, let the courts decide. Saint and friends have the right to due process and are in no way a threat of sufficient scale to warrant summary execution. Assuming we actually teleport to Saint's base and not some random warehouse he keeps his suit in we'll have Ascalon and any other tech the Dragonslayers have. At that point even if they escape they are no more harmful then an ordinary human. Well Mags has a C-rank core so she has up to two spells but that's nothing to really be concerned about.
Silently Watches
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Now I can't help but imagine how that could go assuming you go through with the Unison Device idea. Visitation time with Dragon 2.0 would be so interesting.
Nope, she only has Strong Shield. She's a Deviceless mage, so a C-rank gives her one spell at full strength.
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Right, I forgot about the Deviceless mage debuff there. So yeah, definitely not a threat. Well anymore of a threat then an ordinary human.
No one knows Dragon is an AI and no one is going to believe Saint when he tries to claim so*. Even if he some how succeeds Saint would still be guilty of the variety of charges relating to his work as a mercenary. Oh and he's guilty of assault on Samantha and Calamity Witch during our fishing expedition.
*Especially if he brings up the TSAB since claiming Dragon is working with aliens is a great way to be dismissed as a loon.
Always Late
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Hm... this is the system which you've said is facing massive pressure to be incredibly fascistic in regards to the quarantine zones, and in canon did a total railroading of Canary to make a point with other Masters.Now I can't help but imagine how that could go assuming you go through with another suggestion you've made. Visitation time would be so interesting.
I think I know what you're getting at:
Saint turns state evidence, sells out his girlfriend and Russian buddy, but gets kept on so the government can have more control over Dragon for even more surveillance, manipulation, and villain-fighting capability.
And we get to glare at him from outside his cushy penthouse, thinking very hard whether or not to make the choice another Taylor Hebert in another universe made even earlier.
Tell me Silently Watches, how close am I?
Silently Watches
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…If we were playing "Hot or Cold", you'd be in Antarctica.
Always Late
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I spent fifteen minutes writing that comment, and all you give me is a sick burn.
Damn, you Weiss cold yo-self.
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But she has her cape person, and Worm laws let trial parahumans in their cape person, without unmasking.
So, if cape could be an accused, why they couldn't be a victim?