Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

[ReaperofInterest]

In this setting they do seem to just quarantine people instead of mass murdering them. In fact they do have dedicated therapists to try to unfuck people. Is one thing while directly facing the Smurf, but we already saw is different when no Endbringers are involved. Aka how they reacted when we just killed some Fallen.

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I feel I should point out that we saw ONE person having a negative reaction to the deaths of the Fallen. One person is not a good example of a large group. In addition, people tried to deprogram the people the Fallen brainwashed, it just got the therapists killed as well. We will be talking to Cassiel about whether or not there's any way to deprogram the Fallen's victims, and if we can't then that's a terrible thing, but the Fallen need to be dealt with.

Besides, the Fallen have caused enough damage that even if we can't save anyone, people will still cheer for the simple face that the mind- and body-raping Endbringer cultists are dead.

 

[Pinklestia]

Pretty sure Legend is banking on Standstill poaching us before we can poach her. But I think he cares more about her happiness than which team she's on (he's a nice guy like that).

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*Falls out laughing.

We have our own team, a lot of resources, bounties to collect if we want money and so on. Plus we are a minor and Legend knows we don't like the Wards restrictions.

Plus our love interest is an ice girl, not Standstill.

They might have something, but there is somewhat of a difference between squishy, weak, and easily restrained mind-controlled mundanes trying to kill you and literal weapons of mass destruction. That said, Cassiel is by far more likely to have something and is the expert in this scenario.

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My idea has always been to try to save the non Capes. The Capes are too much of a risk.

 

[Silently Watches]

Does Heartbreaker exist in this setting? Because in canon they were perfectly happy to let him be to avoid having to kill people that were just brainwashed.

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Heartbreaker didn't leave his chalet with the express intent of murdering his way through Green Bay, either. It's one thing to hunt down a Master and his victims when he's sitting at home doing nothing. It's another thing entirely when a bunch of Masters are actively going out to enslave and kill, and the only reason they hadn't been axed before was because they couldn't be found.

Pretty sure Legend is banking on Standstill poaching us before we can poach her. But I think he cares more about her happiness than which team she's on (he's a nice guy like that).

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Correct on both counts. As he said in the chapter, he's basically watched her grow up the last few years.

 

[Pinklestia]

New vote, I deleted my old one.

[X] Bone of the Father, part 2 – Maybe it's just because it's one you grew up hearing about, but the idea of an Empire off-shoot running around Philly fills you with dread. Plus the fact that the real Empire was turned into Ziz-bombs. Check their territory for any known Empire capes calling the shots.
[X] Burn the Sinners, part 2 – You have the information about the Fallen you wanted, specifically about the Simurgh family. Track them down. Burn them out. Leave no survivors.

[X] Explore another world. A location must be included. You may bring 1-3 other characters with you.
- [X] Weekend trip to Aleph's Japan with Missy, Kayleigh and Laura. As newly-forged anime characters they need to see their true homeland, and honestly all four of you need a vacation from your vacation.
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[ReaperofInterest]

Hmm...Silently, I have a quick question. If a Device mage purchases a Mastery, then purchases a spell that the Mastery might cover, is the newly purchased spell treated as if it's Master level? That seems like the easiest way to handle the matter to me, but I'd just like to make sure.

 

[Silently Watches]

Hmm...Silently, I have a quick question. If a Device mage purchases a Mastery, then purchases a spell that the Mastery might cover, is the newly purchased spell treated as if it's Master level? That seems like the easiest way to handle the matter to me, but I'd just like to make sure.

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Yes it is. I would prefer for you to have at least one spell the Mastery covers before you get the mastery itself (how can you be an expert in a skill you don't have?), but a Mastery will apply to any relevant skill no matter in what order they are learned.

 

[ReaperofInterest]

Yes it is. I would prefer for you to have at least one spell the Mastery covers before you get the mastery itself (how can you be an expert in a skill you don't have?), but a Mastery will apply to any relevant skill no matter in what order they are learned.

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Alrighty then, thank you.

So since it won't seem to matter what order we get them in, we won't have to spend too much time debating on Aeris/Lacey acquiring the remaining Medical spells and the associated Mastery. Admittedly there will probably still be some debate, but we don't have to worry about what happens if we purchase Medical Master for her before getting one of the other two Medical spells.

 

[Valdimarian]

*Falls out laughing.

We have our own team, a lot of resources, bounties to collect if we want money and so on. Plus we are a minor and Legend knows we don't like the Wards restrictions.

Plus our love interest is an ice girl, not Standstill.

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Legend doesn't know how much resources we have, for all he knows we're in vague contact with Dragon and the only money we have to our names is actually in Cinder's name from the bounties. Standstill has been a ward and Protectorate member for years and can put in a good word for them.

Edit: the goal is to make us amenable to joining the Protectorate when we come of age, not outright recruitment now.

My idea has always been to try to save the non Capes. The Capes are too much of a risk.

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Except we were told by Legend that they've tried that before and it usually ends up with either suicide, or murder suicide by the brainwashed masses. Sometimes it really is the only way to be sure.

 

[Pinklestia]

Standstill has been a ward and Protectorate member for years and can put in a good word for them.

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He remembers what happened with Vista, right?

So a few thoughts about our new girls.

If Missy gets a Guardian Beast that will ruin her ability to Summon the Bigger fish.

Ice Girl could get a guardian beast without ruining anything and Gun Girl is too weak to support one effectively.

I guess that whatever GB ice girl eventually get will be decided by the dice again.

Except we were told by Legend that they've tried that before and it usually ends up with either suicide, or murder suicide by the brainwashed masses. Sometimes it really is the only way to be sure.

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Legend doesn't have the Smurf and the Enforcers on speed dial, we do.

 

[ReaperofInterest]

If Missy gets a Guardian Beast that will ruin her ability to Summon the Bigger fish.

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As she has a AA Rank Core, Missy can learn up to 15 spells and currently counts as having 4. There are 3 remaining Summon spells she can learn, which would leave her at 7 spells learned, with 8 slots remaining. She can easily learn Guardian Beast without locking herself out of anything.

I am 50% Sure she will summon Toads of some kind.

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She won't summon toads. Perfect Storm looked at her core, and while it couldn't tell what she'd summon exactly, it did say she did not have the Toad Summoner Rare Skill.

 

[kamkong]

Except the Enforcers aren't here for the Fallen. They've agreed to help with the Endbringers since they fill the same role Lost Logia do, but they aren't dealing with purely human threats unless they are specifically attacked

 

[Elwyn]

If Missy gets a Guardian Beast that will ruin her ability to Summon the Bigger fish.

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No it wont, that's outright wrong.

I am 50% Sure she will summon Toads of some kind.

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She has a higher match with Squirrels than Toads, with Squirrels(+whatever else IE summons) being over 80% and Toads being around 50%. So no, she doesn't summon toads. Pretty sure Silently stated that outright too when someone mentioned Naruto's Toad summons.

Ice Girl could get a guardian beast without ruining anything and Cowboy girl is too weak to support one effectively.

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You could use their names, you know. Also they can all support a GB just fine, Kayleigh just can only support a basic gear. Which isn't too useful.

I guess that whatever beast ice girl eventually get will be decided by the dice again.

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Probably, there isn't a specific one we need for her and random is more powerful.

 

[Byakugan]

Cowboy girl is too weak to support one effectively.

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Supporting a gear is not a drawback for the gun nut.

 

[Valdimarian]

He remembers what happened with Vista, right?

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Vista had an issue with her guardians that drove her to us. I'm extrapolating a bit, but my guess is he's hopeful that Standstill / 13th Hour will sooth that mess out a bit and appease Taylor that it's just Chevalier who's an ass.

I'm by no means saying he'll be successful but he'd prefer if we joined the Protectorate, failing that Standstill will at least keep us from being antagonistic with the Protectorate due to misunderstandings.

Supporting a gear is not a drawback for the gun nut.

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Except for the same price as the GB summoning spell she could learn to maintain her own equipment without needing a GB.

 

[Pinklestia]

As she has a AA Rank Core, Missy can learn up to 15 spells and currently counts as having 4. There are 3 remaining Summon spells she can learn, which would leave her at 7 spells learned, with 8 slots remaining. She can easily learn Guardian Beast without locking herself out of anything.

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Save for not being able to get the Ultimate Summon unless the rules for that have been changed from the posts I read.

And since she does have a dedicated Summoning skill, said Ultimate Summon is likely to end being better than any Guardian Beast.

Except the Enforcers aren't here for the Fallen. They've agreed to help with the Endbringers since they fill the same role Lost Logia do, but they aren't dealing with purely human threats unless they are specifically attacked

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There is something miraculous know as TALKING. All Im saying is to ASK the Enforcers if their organisation can deprogram brainwashed people. It is a simple yes or no answer. We find out if they can or not and then make choices based on that.

 

[Silently Watches]

He remembers what happened with Vista, right?

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Do you mean did he hear Taylor just now say that a Ward was tired of the restrictions and jumped ship? Yes. That doesn't mean Legend doesn't want Taylor in the PROTECTORATE.

If Missy gets a Guardian Beast that will ruin her ability to Summon the Bigger fish.

I am 50% Sure she will summon Toads of some kind.

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I was debating with myself whether or not you were just fundamentally misunderstanding what was going on. You have now confirmed that because both these statements are 100% wrong.

 

[Byakugan]

Except for the same price as the GB summoning spell she could learn to maintain her own equipment without needing a GB.

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But not how to build more or better equipment, which a gear would allow her to do without holding hostage one of Tims slots.

She's also looking to go full magical girl, calling herself "sailor" and her device "transformation sequence/henssen" so having a talking pet is straight up in character.

 

[Valdimarian]

But not how to build more or better equipment, which a gear would allow her to do without holding hostage one of Tims slots.

She's also looking to go full magical girl, so having a talking pet is straight up in character.

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While true, I don't think the basic Gear can build most of the fun stuff we've planned to give her via Tim like a flight system and such.

 

[Elwyn]

Except for the same price as the GB summoning spell she could learn to maintain her own equipment without needing a GB.

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Technically the GB is a direct bonus in that regard, since it frees up her time. If her GB is maintaining her gear and ammo supplies she has more time to do other stuff. It's the same spell cost, but it's not the same time cost.
That said, she'd have to keep and feed her GB from then on? But pet.

Eh, it's a toss up. More thematic for her to maintain her own stuff though, so I will be going that route with my vote for her spells.

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She's also looking to go full magical girl, calling herself "sailor" and her device "transformation sequence/henssen" so having a talking pet is straight up in character.

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... And now I am conflicted again. Damnit.

 

[ReaperofInterest]

Save for not being able to get the Ultimate Summon unless the rules for that have been changed from the posts I read.

And since she does have a dedicated Summoning skill, said Ultimate Summon is likely to end being better than any Guardian Beast.

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The Guardian Beast spell will not lock Missy out of the Ultimate Summon spell. She has a Boost Device, so the only thing that will lock her out of Summon spells is running out of spell slots.

In addition, while the Ultimate Summon is apparently Endbringer sized, it prevents her from using any other spells while her Summon is active. It's useful in a different way compared to Guardian Beast, and correspondingly has different drawbacks.

 

[Pinklestia]

But not how to build more or better equipment, which a gear would allow her to do without holding hostage one of Tims slots.

She's also looking to go full magical girl, calling herself "sailor" and her device "transformation sequence/henssen" so having a talking pet is straight up in character.

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Any gun nut loves to maintain their own guns and said guns being magical doesn't make her any less of a gun nut.

She also went cowboy instead of classical magical girl and she is a bit crazy, so who knows?

The Guardian Beast spell will not lock Missy out of the Ultimate Summon spell. She has a Boost Device, so the only thing that will lock her out of Summon spells is running out of spell slots.

In addition, while the Ultimate Summon is apparently Endbringer sized, it prevents her from using any other spells while her Summon is active. It's useful in a different way compared to Guardian Beast, and correspondingly has different drawbacks.

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So she can have the Ultimate Summon and Guardian Beast active at the same time or would the Guardian Beast be forced into pet mode and to sleep or something?

 

[Silently Watches]

But not how to build more or better equipment, which a gear would allow her to do without holding hostage one of Tims slots.

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It just depends on how broad the skill is. Kayleigh could certainly learn to build some of her own gear.

If her GB is maintaining her gear and ammo supplies

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I'm emphasizing this part because this is actually incorrect. Because the Gun Nut skill is much more narrow than the Energy Weapons or Merchant of Death skills, it is also more efficient.

Take a look at the descriptions:

Gun Nut – By combining her knowledge of firearms and magic, she can condense mana into semi-stable bullets with magical effects. She can produce 15 elemental pistol bullets or 8 non-elemental pistol bullets per day.

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Pseudo-magical effect bullets. 10 elemental rounds per slot, 5 non-elemental rounds per slot.

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Since Kayleigh's skill is narrower, she produces 50% more per time period and has shorter time periods. She can make 105 elemental bullets in a week compared to a Gear's 20, which is useful when shooting her bullets is her primary combat style. She would probably burn through all the bullets a Gear can make in a week over the course of a single fight.

 

[Tzardok]

She also went cowboy instead of classical magical girl and she is a bit crazy, so who knows?

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Where did you get that? I don't remember anyone but you talking about cowboys.

 

[Elwyn]

She also went cowboy instead of classical magical girl and she is a bit crazy, so who knows?

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She is a gun nut who is having fun. There is no reason to call her crazy, because she is, in fact, less crazy than Taylor (who has the semi-ghost of an ancient WMD magical girl who occasionally whispers in her ear) or Laura pre-Device, since she had a piece of an omnicidal space whale influencing her decisions.

Kayleigh is the sane one of the group. That doesn't mean she has to be serious.

Also, we haven't seen her costume yet. All we know is her alias, device name, and fighting style. Guns do not make her a cowboy. Mami Tomoe fighting style was guns guns guns and she was in no way a cowboy.

I find you infuriating. Please, stop saying things that are entirely unsubstantiated.

I'm emphasizing this part because this is actually incorrect. Because the Gun Nut skill is much more narrow than the Energy Weapons or Merchant of Death skills, it is also more efficient.

Take a look at the descriptions:

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Alright, I had not noticed the 'day' component of that. That definitely changes which is more time-efficient. My mistake.

 

[Byakugan]

It just depends on how broad the skill is. Kayleigh could certainly learn to build some of her own gear.

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She probably could I suppose, though I wasn't thinking about her elemental press. Could she learn to build a transforming gun? Given firefly and nostromo seem to be handling that atm, I'm pretty sure her gear could. I suppose it's on how much you allow her to dip into gear. I remember you said they couldn't build flight harnesses earlier. Could she?