By your intrepretation then, what point is there to being a liason that does almost nothing of any real import?
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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Maybe for the vote but in story? Nope. We didn't poach Vista away, we just were nice to her and the Protectorate ignored our warnings that Vista didn't like the current situation then did nothing about it.
With Standstill she has Legend being as nice as he can with her, so poaching her would sour our relationship with the Protectorate.
Also if we are gonna get more involved with Pentagram then we should start to get paid. The free trial period is over.
To actually do the liason job, and have a healer on base.
Edit: We really have done quite bad with healers. The one that lives with us won't get more powerful and is in a hospital all day. And the powerful one doesn't live with us or is part of our team, and seems quite happy to just help to cure kids.
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Kinda difficult to actually do that if you are unaware of what the group in question is doing, isn't it?
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The job is to act as a negotiatior between us and the protectorate and she can perfectly do that without going on mission and getting scared when we nuke the Fallen or end killing someone who doesn't have a kill order. That way we also avoid her having to chose to report us or not.
Even something minor that she finds out could screw us over. Remember when the Protectorate found out we were a minor?
Like it or not, she is not actually working for us.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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- Right behind you
This is not a social vote. This would be a new spell one of the girls has to learn with their XP.
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Maybe you weren't here for it, I don't remember, but we had a massive clusterfuck of chargen that involved picking out the girls' spell. NO, you cannot just say "let's switch one out to give ME what *I* want".
Nope.
That's because right now, it has two personalities. Perfect Storm is a normal Intelligent Device personality, and it is technically the dominant one. Even when IAE is active, PS is holding it in check. Once you plug IAE up to a big power source, the very first thing it would do is create a new Device for Taylor and shove PS into it. Then it would do its own thing, which now that it knows Galea and Belka are gone would change from "protect Galea against all threats" to "rebuild Galea".
Any form of teleportation is technically movement, so it needs a movement spell to come off of. Blitz Action and Aerial Combat would both work.
Going out on patrols or other missions with independents is VERY MUCH part of a Protectorate liaison's job.
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Given that a liaison is not getting paid they only have limited leverage on them anyway.
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- Argentina
But taking her into every mission would be really stupid.
For what we know of Standstill it would perfectly be in character of her to get scared of us if she see us nuke the Fallen. She definitely seems to be on the "Save everyone you can" camp. So if we go by the "kill everyone" option it would be a terrible idea to take her with us. Not to mention it would ruin the whole purpose of rebranding to be associated with mass murderers.
And yes that's what would happen.
We already got someone pissy at the fake heroine we created to take the Fallen just because we killed some people.
Standstill getting rebrainded just to ruin her reputation yet again would be a dick move.
Ditto that. We can also pull the "This is too dangerous for you" card and get Cat Sith to force her to stay were she is safe.
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Academic Guardian
Just an old man with a hobby
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- Somewhere in the twisting Kaleidoscope
[X] Bone of the Father, part 2 – Maybe it's just because it's one you grew up hearing about, but the idea of an Empire off-shoot running around Philly fills you with dread. Plus the fact that the real Empire was turned into Ziz-bombs. Check their territory for any known Empire capes calling the shots.
[X] Burn the Sinners, part 2 – You have the information about the Fallen you wanted, specifically about the Simurgh family. Track them down. Burn them out. Leave no survivors
[X] Participate in Final Frontier as a social activity instead of a main activity
[X] Explore another world. You may bring 1-3 other characters with you
L>Bug cult world
L>Alex
L>Legend
L>Vista
I would add Cassiel as she might be the best for new world exploration but again I feel that will be showing too much to Alex and Legend
[X] Burn the Sinners, part 2 – You have the information about the Fallen you wanted, specifically about the Simurgh family. Track them down. Burn them out. Leave no survivors
[X] Participate in Final Frontier as a social activity instead of a main activity
[X] Explore another world. You may bring 1-3 other characters with you
L>Bug cult world
L>Alex
L>Legend
L>Vista
I would add Cassiel as she might be the best for new world exploration but again I feel that will be showing too much to Alex and Legend
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- Earth
This is massively mitigated by Legend himself telling us that there is no other way and Alexandria agreeing.
And our Thinker(Cassiel) presumably confirming it. If she disproves it we go save who we can and it won't be a problem at all.
Just be all resignedly sad that it needs to be done.
We aren't happy about it either.
One, Lacey is just as good a healer as Maclibuin, so that's wrong. Also, she will get more powerful, at the passive 1xp/week rate. She has 2xp, by the way. Two, you have a completely wrong idea of what the Liason job will entail. You've decided it's a non-combat role, which is why... they sent a combatant. Yeah, that makes sense.
She will be joining us on missions unless we choose to bench her. End of. And the entire point of what we're doing is to give her magic over her powers, which means she will get a Device, rebrand, and go out and do things. With us. As the Liason member of our team. Unless Silently chimes in on your side (which I doubt will happen) you're going off and saying things that are entirely unsubstantiated.
We got word from Legend himself that people won't bat an eye for nuking the Fallen base... and Silently has said that dealing with the Mathers/Simurgh branch of the Fallen will be a 99% Taylor thing, just wiping them out because those nasty-nasty masters... are basically useless against us. What little backup they have can burn in fire without trouble.
And we explicitly had the agreement that if she finds something minor out, like our age or Laura/Kayleigh's identities, it won't screw us over. Because the Protectorate doesn't want the WMD mage on their bad side. For some strange reason.
And now you're arguing against the Quest Master, which is... even more stupid. You've got an opinion, and it's yours. Unfortunately for you it doesn't match anyone else's and isn't relevant anymore.
Please stop trying to push something which has be outright stated to be wrong by the one person who can do that.
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Fine, let's have her be perfectly okay with us being a mass murdering machine. Let's ignore that she had to be reassured that the Adepts never did anything too bad to join them. Now she will be perfectly happy with us killing people just because we have her a Guardian Beast and new powers.
Perfectly possible so let's not do that, pretty please.
[X] Daddy's Little Girl – It's been a while since you last checked on your dad. It hurts to see him and know that he doesn't and probably never will recognize you, but you should probably stomach the hurt and go to his nursing home.
[X] Burn the Sinners, part 2 – You have the information about the Fallen you wanted, specifically about the Simurgh family. Track them down. Burn them out. Leave no survivors
[X] Participate in Final Frontier as a social activity instead of a main activity.
[X] Build an Infinite Enhancement Template for Standstill.
Honestly I see Standstill being a liaison as a temporary solution. We *will* eventually poach her from the Protectorate. We establish good relations with her, build up Arcana's support structure (i.e. having a regular income) and invite Standstill into being a full member and resigning from the Protectorate. Which would arguably be easier once she has her big summon since with the Endbringers there would be extreme amount of wariness about someone having the ability to call on their own 'Endbringer'.
[X] Burn the Sinners, part 2 – You have the information about the Fallen you wanted, specifically about the Simurgh family. Track them down. Burn them out. Leave no survivors
[X] Participate in Final Frontier as a social activity instead of a main activity.
[X] Build an Infinite Enhancement Template for Standstill.
Honestly I see Standstill being a liaison as a temporary solution. We *will* eventually poach her from the Protectorate. We establish good relations with her, build up Arcana's support structure (i.e. having a regular income) and invite Standstill into being a full member and resigning from the Protectorate. Which would arguably be easier once she has her big summon since with the Endbringers there would be extreme amount of wariness about someone having the ability to call on their own 'Endbringer'.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Yikes. Yeah, plugging Perfect Storm into a big enough power source is sounding like a terrible idea the more we learn about it.
Hmm...well, I suppose we might be able to get Lacey Blitz Action on the grounds that it doesn't harm anyone, just speeds her up. If we can swing that, then her next spell purchase could easily be Spatial Translocation for the utility and reduction in travel times, or Forced Displacement so as to end fights without hurting anyone or sending people into jail/traps. Thanks for the info.
*sighs*
That's not what anyone is saying, so please stop that.
- Location
- Russia
By that logic, Alexandria is a mass murdering machine and literally everybody knows that.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
The problem here is that Pentagram didn't ask for our help expecting we provide it free of charge. We offered our help ourselves, because we want to a) keep an eye on them and b) cultivate relationships with them, so hopefully they view Taylor as a trusted expert in any magical matters and not just another independent hero.
If we demand money for our help, they'll just shrug and ask us to leave, they're doing fine without us.
It's good then that Taylor herself belongs to "save everyone you can" camp too.
That's why before going after the Fallen we're seeking confirmation that their victims are beyond saving and quick death is the only thing we can do for them.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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Both Spatial Translocation and Forced Displacement are Advanced tier spells, so Lacey, being on a C-rank mage, can't learn them.
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Then let's please not help them. They have more than enough Guardian Beasts of the Gear, Tome and so on to not need our help.
If people saw her turn a human with no powers into clunky salsa, one that's only Evil because he has been mastered, yes they would say that.
Does Heartbreaker exist in this setting? Because in canon they were perfectly happy to let him be to avoid having to kill people that were just brainwashed.
Vista is a native of the Bay, Ice Girl is a former villain and cowboy girl is kinda crazy. That's why they are perfectly okay with Taylor killing people.
Weird there are no votes to talk with Cassiel or the Enforcers about it then.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Oh...well, at least there are some other medical spells she can learn, plus that Mastery. It's a shame that she won't be able to teleport, but at least that was pointed out before we spent any of her XP.
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- Russia
Except I'm pretty sure that she did that, a lot. Aka every single Simurgh fight.
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- Canada
Sort of hard to label her "a mass murdering machine" when Legend, the Good One of the Triumvirate, states that the best strategy for this branch of the Fallen and their captives is to "kill them quickly." The Fallen and their slaves have an Unwritten Kill Order. Taylor's never given too much effort into getting PR over results, this is just a continuation of that.
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In this setting they do seem to just quarantine people instead of mass murdering them. In fact they do have dedicated therapists to try to unfuck people. Is one thing while directly facing the Smurf, but we already saw is different when no Endbringers are involved. Aka how they reacted when we just killed some Fallen.
Anyway, Legend is one thing, but Standstill seems like she doesn't like violence. I could be wrong but everything we have seen of her in character paints her as the kind of person who is into heroics to save people, not to kill bad guys.
And yes Taylor doesn't care about PR but she also doesn't want people to hate her. If she was only about the results she would have stopped the Privateers before they mostly got themselves killed or have actually helped them to just kill villains.
I know all of that is the result of votes but whatever.
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- Ural, Russia, Earth
Talking with Cassiel will happen automatically.
Talking with Enforcers... well, Teana did kill several dozens of her colleagues brainwashed by IAE...
They might have something, but there is somewhat of a difference between squishy, weak, and easily restrained mind-controlled mundanes trying to kill you and literal weapons of mass destruction. That said, Cassiel is by far more likely to have something and is the expert in this scenario.
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- Earth, Sol System, Virgo Supercluster, Earth-1218
They didn't take out Heartbreaker because he left moles in the government that would
A) inform him they were coming
B) screw over those who were coming
C) had suicide orders to fuck things up even more if he was taken out.
The Fallen have at least the first and maybe the second keeping the PRT in check.
They might have the third, but the implications I've gotten are that the Fallen's Mastering is too direct to leave that kind of mole in place for too long before they're found out.
Pretty sure Legend is banking on Standstill poaching us before we can poach her. But I think he cares more about her happiness than which team she's on (he's a nice guy like that).