heh, well...considering im planning on sending missionaires to nippon and cathcay, as well as the NOT-INDIA nation next big turn...im thinking we will be outdoing tolcaith there on that department very quickly. A god of knowledge can really put the pressure on, even if tolcaith becomes a god of hope...

issue is, he is slowly becoming an entity of LAW himself.

if the players in your game aren't careful, Tolcaith can and will become the 4th God of LAW. which case bad end from sucess.
 
if the players in your game aren't careful, Tolcaith can and will become the 4th God of LAW. which case bad end from sucess.
What I will say is that Tolcariath doesn't envision a perfect law; in his eyes, law is the wish of a nation guiding it forward, the wish of a people that changes and adapts as the times change. The perfect law the Law Gods envision, I find, is terribly flawed in that they are not respecting the people's wishes but their own alone.

And furthermore, Tolcariath doesn't aim to be a God himself, just a man who wants to bring the change the world needs.

Edit: In my original quest, he doesn't want to be a God at all. In my Omake AU, he still shares the same reluctance, but knows that people need religion to handle the stresses from fighting Chaos and other things.
 
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I know what you are all thinking, 'why hasn't this guy updated yet?' to be fair I was planning to finish it this week, but something happened: My dog ran away.

I searched for two days, for at least three hours under a temperature that exceeded 32 Celsius (or 89,6 Fahrenheit) and I didn't find her, fortunely my aunt found her and called me and I rushed there and brought her home. So now that is finished, let's talk about the update. It will come Thursday at the very least I can promise that, or it will come before that, it really depends on my mood which has been revitalized with this.
 
If I remember right, we have over two hundred in bonuses all said. So, we should be fine.

going to burn them out at this rate, but yeah it makes sense that Dracul is throwing extra power that he is generating from these acts of faith into his followers, while khorne is forced during the critical time of this moment to send his own power to his own forces.

basically, this is a VERY big "Fuck this moment, TIME FOR THE YEET!" and SV "HUBRIS IS A COWARD'S WORD!"...considering were planning on high jacking a summoning ritual for a Greater Daemon of Unkown strength and station? for all we know they could be summoning an Exalted one...which case if we accidently summon a Greater Daemon of Dracul (An Unborn as it were), something that SHOULD NOT EXIST YET! But our guys break shit down because it's the fucking WARP, so they end up summoning Daemons of Dracul (draconic/vampiric entities)
 
which case if we accidently summon a Greater Daemon of Dracul (An Unborn as it were), something that SHOULD NOT EXIST YET! But our guys break shit down because it's the fucking WARP, so they end up summoning Daemons of Dracul (draconic/vampiric entities)
Time means jack shit in the warp. Like really, I don't know about fantasy, but in 40k accidental time travel is a legitimate concern when traveling the warp.

Also, I imagine your average greater daemons looking somewhat like this:
 
Time means jack shit in the warp. Like really, I don't know about fantasy, but in 40k accidental time travel is a legitimate concern when traveling the warp.

Also, I imagine your average greater daemons looking somewhat like this:

okay, fuck yes.

And yeah, despite what the current GW lore is (fucking nit-wits), i DO accept that daemons of chaos were present during the war in heaven, as actors so fucking minor they didn't even MATTER at all during that hell-storm.

With Dracul's daemons being like that? or at least the greater ones? that's interesting...the Lesser Daemons could be hornless and wingless versions of those things, with digitrade legs ranging from bipedal to centaurisk creatures depending on their "duties".

But yeah, if we do summon one of these Unborn (due to not being an intermediate god at the moment) Greater "Angyls" of Dracul, things will get interesting.

Also, i see the horned rat at intermediate in power, but is kind of Lesser god status due to incompetence and blame-shifting.

basically, what the skaven do 24/7/12. They might get a victory for their kind, but its off-set by the backfiring and self-sabotaging foolishness that's down-right fucking horrifyingly black comedic fuckery.

also looking forward to the main turns again and praying that we can get our nature magic capabilities to finally finishing up the schools of magic for Dracul's power to utilize. Plus, dragon rune-crafting, that's going to be interesting to have eventually when the dwali freak out subtly and wonder just how these umgi/drakka figured out runes enough to have their own rune-craft...and of course take a look to just make sure they didn't rip off from the dwali...and totally not to get inspiration from them!

(Also noting on some of the quests here, the Norse Rune-lords have Rune-Crafters, basically apprentices/worksmen that basically do simple runes on everything while letting the rune-lords do their crazy shennanigans with runic works in peace, take a look at The Twin Holds: Ranger Quest for the reason why on the Norse Dwarves interesting idea)
 
Also, i see the horned rat at intermediate in power, but is kind of Lesser god status due to incompetence and blame-shifting.
The Horned Rat is so chaotic and self-destructive he is an actual contender to Malal, only his own scheming nature being the only thing that impends him from imploding. There are too any contradictions, and while the Horned Rat can make convoluted plans that usually work, he only does plans that negatively affect him in the long run. After all, he could have already taken over the world. But his own nature will always make sure that he never truly wins.

That is why he is a considered a chaos god. His power level rises and wanes all the time because genocide is a very common practice among the skaven towards rival clans they particularly hate or simply because they can, also because his concepts are tied to the skaven, so if the skaven are powerful, he is powerful, if the skaven are weak he is weak, if the skaven have chronic backstabbing disorder as one of their main beliefs he will have the disorder, and so on.

The Horned Rat is both master and slave, and he is not even aware of it.
 
GM ANNOUCEMENT

I know what you are all thinking, 'why hasn't this guy updated yet?' to be fair I was planning to finish it this week, but something happened: My dog ran away.

I searched for two days, for at least three hours under a temperature that exceeded 32 Celsius (or 89,6 Fahrenheit) and I didn't find her, fortunely my aunt found her and called me and I rushed there and brought her home. So now that is finished, let's talk about the update. It will come Thursday at the very least I can promise that, or it will come before that, it really depends on my mood which has been revitalized with this.
Good to see you and your dog are well, and take your time. :grin2:
Thanks man.
also looking forward to the main turns again and praying that we can get our nature magic capabilities to finally finishing up the schools of magic for Dracul's power to utilize. Plus, dragon rune-crafting, that's going to be interesting to have eventually when the dwali freak out subtly and wonder just how these umgi/drakka figured out runes enough to have their own rune-craft...and of course take a look to just make sure they didn't rip off from the dwali...and totally not to get inspiration from them!
They'd probably either shave their beards or drink themselves to an early grave.
That is why he is a considered a chaos god. His power level rises and wanes all the time because genocide is a very common practice among the skaven towards rival clans they particularly hate or simply because they can, also because his concepts are tied to the skaven, so if the skaven are powerful, he is powerful, if the skaven are weak he is weak, if the skaven have chronic backstabbing disorder as one of their main beliefs he will have the disorder, and so on.
And that's exactly why the Skaven don't materialise as a real threat unless they get their shit together, and their warp-powered tech is no joke. You know what they say, we're slaves to power.
 
I am pretty sure we would be fucked if there was a chaos invasion and we had nothing magical or divine to save the day.

Beyond fucked, I would say at least half the population would go insane due to corruption, another 1/4th slaughtered or betrayed from within, and the last quarter hunted down at the leisure of the remaining ones that didn't explode into daemons and such.

It's…horrific.

Edited: in other news going to nail some omakesout today when works done and I'm finished grabbing grub from my folks house:
 
Beyond fucked, I would say at least half the population would go insane due to corruption, another 1/4th slaughtered or betrayed from within, and the last quarter hunted down at the leisure of the remaining ones that didn't explode into daemons and such.

It's…horrific.
Yeah, war against chaos would be unlike anything our armies had ever faced. Chaos doesn't negotiate. Chaos has an endless amount of bodies to throw at us with zero moral problems. Chaos can infiltrate cities and political landscapes easily. Chaos can corrupt millions in just a few days.

It would be impossible to win against them. Only a mass nuclear launch would work buy time, but that has its own problems.
 
And that's not counting having the Christian God as Chaos through the power offered to the dogmatic mindset of the faith

Eh depends if they try to subvert the faith with the imperial tyrant…but still GW's constant revisions of "CHAOS-STONK" is annoying as fuck with how they keep destroying their own timeline.
 
TBF we never get to see any order gods do time and space wrecking
stuff more than one issue and even then i do not think they have the power to do that shit

Or the inclination, let's face it order gods are what chaos gods want to be but are too self destructive to be able to do what THEY do. Perhaps at one point the chaos gods had a sort of balance going on, then the war in heaven went off and anything good or considered good got buried under extremism to the point of self destructive tendencies and lunacy.
 
The First Born of Twilight
The First Born of Twilight

I am the first, The First Unborn of my Lord/Master/Creator/Father/King's Court of Shadow. I am the First into the Fray when the war against the wicked ones started, The First to taste Deamonic Blood upon my formless teeth and Tongue. The First to Lead my Flesh and Blood Kin in the War between Darkness and Destruction/Ruin/Chaos/The-Enemy, The First to Rage against the dying of Order and Proclaim the Name of my grand creator across the sea of souls that was my home. The First to reach the great working my lord created to cease the invasion of his territory of both the material and the immaterial worlds. I am the first to the fight, the last to leave and the Lord of the First court!

When the Flesh-Kin reached forth into the elemental dreams, I was there to guide them in their newest forms, I was there when mortals looked upon the majesty of dragons. I was there when they learned the great value of magic whispering in tongues of the dead to teach them the value of all things, I was there when the first vampires were formed out of the foolish pride of the vainful witch, I was there when she spurned her allies in her delusions and turned upon them thinking she was the most beautiful and powerful (a lie, for i have seen both might and beauty at the HEART of my lord's domain, and she falls oh so short). I was there when the Line of my lord was started in both the mortal sense and the immortal sense. I was there whispering to the kin of my lord, sending whispers and shadows to guide them to the heartlands of my masters to be empire.

I am the firstborn, i am the shadow upon which all see, fear, and glorify. I am the darkness of the shadow of the True Dragon, the Thirst of the First Vampires, I am the one who nurtured my lords rise with my kin, proclaiming his glory across the mortal minds so easily turned upon their former masters. So weak and frail, my lord was correct to be the one to guide them to the purposeful path of servitude of their betters, even if they held potential beyond reckoning, it was so few and so little in-between.

Their frailty aside, they have proven useful during the great war for unity of my master's domain, even my flesh kin of both vampire and dragon served a unique purpose that i cannot deny. But they all shall remember, even the one named Ever Chosen of Order, That I Am the First-Born. That I guided the shadow of the Faith before it all began, That I stood against the treachery of Tzeentch, The Decay of Nurgle, The Corruption of Slannesh, and the Wrath of Khorne in the Great War, and found them wanting.

I am the Daemon/Angyl of Darkness, Vampires, Dragons, and Knowledge. My knowledge of the world that was, of what it could be, and what it should be all are bound together under the aegis of my master. No Other could comprehend the magnitude, not even the Lady of Civilization, Justice, and Knowledge could understand the whole of my master's power. His potential to Rule the Side of Order as it should be, For the so-called kings of the gods have showed themselves unworthy of their touch. No other could ever understand the magnitude of the Task at hand, and no other being could be more worthy to lead the charge against the false-light and the false-darkness.

They call my lord monster, madness incarnate, and wicked spawn of the night...i shall show them the error of their ways, and they shall either repent under oath and word, or under the claws and fangs of my form. But that is not here/there/now/yesterday/tomorrow/ages-past/ages-forward/ages-present. For this day I am summoned, like a thief in the night I steal away from the battlefield to be the First to be summoned by my master's magic-users. There is not a dry tear in their eyes when they beheld my glorious form that i broke from the Blood-thirster that sought to come into the mortal realm. My lower form that of a wraith, able to glide effortlessly across the broken ground while my lithe and strong body contorted to understand the proper physics of such a mundane and bound realm of rules and laws.

It is easy for me to do so, even as i flex my tattered wings and my lengthy claws in anticipation, I see them bow before my visage, my horned form being seen from one of the mirrors in this bloodied and twisted room, taken from khorne and made a holy site of my master. My burning red eyes glaring viciously in the proper place as my maw leads to the very warp-flame that is my birth-home. All done properly and formed rightly...little however could be done about my magical powers, as it was not yet time for me to fully unleash my name and wrath, so i shall beckon these mortals, and lead them to triumphs unseen as my master had proclaimed so-long-ago/ever-so-recently/so-long-ahead...There was work to be done, and let it be known...

That i am the First-born, that i am the shadow of Dracul, That I am the twilight between Order and Chaos/ruin/destruction, i am the guardian and the destroyer, the beast that serves as the herald of my master's banner, the general to his unborn armies, and captain of my lord's personal guard within the great seething sea. I am the firstborn, and by my masters will i shall break this Blood-Tide under the wrath of the Dragon, and feast upon their so-called precious blood and sup their marrow as the vampire of the night!!!

For now, i shall lead this army to its proper form, even as with a gesture i return the army of unlife to its proper form, the secrets of raising wraith-lords given freely to the mortals who had the gall to steal away a ritual from khorne himself and summon my glorious form into the material plane, even as i raise the restless dead from their tombs across this ice-plane world, even at the cry of the widow and the subsequent annoyance of the northern gods i have my due. After all they had not proclaimed protection of the corpses of the countless dead under this lands snow and ice, and thus were oh so easily risen to properly serve the true master of the dead.

The forces of Chaos proclaim that they cannot feel fear, even as they see their dead rise against them across these lands, even as I call to the restless fury of the ancient corpses that rumbled and rage within their tombs, as armies of specters, ghosts, wraiths, and other dark hateful beings call for retribution against the invaders, i offer them a bargain. A chance for retribution against the servants of chaos for eternal servitude in the armies of the dead, such a lovely and easy bargain to have for those that have nothing left to do but sleep helplessly under the ice and snow of these lands.

within my wicked maw i smile as the mortals before me quiver in the silence i have inflicted, they are right to fear my fury, yet it is not my purpose now to incite the terror of my kindred into their hearts, not yet...For now it was time to continue the only war that truly mattered, the war that could be decided in the Great Battle against those foolish enough to stand against my lord.

It was time for the Forces of Darkness to have their due from those that proclaimed the end of this world, and for those that foolishly utilized the power of my master without the proper form of respect!

For i am the firstborn, and i shall deliver the Soul, Body, and Mind if not artifacts of this so called ever-chosen of chaos to the very feet of my masters throne!
 
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