u mean on the gods? cause I'm not sure we can, or even want to.
don't see why we'd need this for peasents, maybe something like focused propaganda? in that we have all the ppl that remember other gods forbidden from even mentioning them, and obligated to at the very least introduce worship of Dracul( and said benefits).
I meant on mortal leaders specifically, major priests, archmages, elector counts, nobles, ECT ECT.

If you can do it without Dracul being there all the time and with less resources, sure, make everyone take the oath.
 
Depends on the oath.

Could be a simple as "I won't betray you."
No, it really wouldn't. Thats such a broad term. You would have to specify what betraying us would entail otherwise them disagreeing with us could be considered betrayal and thats without getting into how they personally would feel about having to swear a magical oath to a vampiric god with legions of undead. The other gods would also expect us to take a similar oath to whatever we make them take which would limit what we can do. We would also have to destroy our spy networks if we did that as well so we aren't betraying them by having them.
 
No, it really wouldn't. Thats such a broad term. You would have to specify what betraying us would entail otherwise them disagreeing with us could be considered betrayal and thats without getting into how they personally would feel about having to swear a magical oath to a vampiric god with legions of undead. The other gods would also expect us to take a similar oath to whatever we make them take which would limit what we can do. We would also have to destroy our spy networks if we did that as well so we aren't betraying them.
It's that or death, they have to pick one.

Ie, they don't exactly have a choice in the matter.

Have it put onto paper and make it a complex legal document if you want.
 
It's that or death, they have to pick one.

Ie, they don't exactly have a choice in the matter.

Have it put onto paper and make it a complex legal document if you want.
That means we aren't making allies. We are conquering them. Also I think the humans gods are currently about as strong as we are or at the very least on the same level as us currently due to how many humans there are so they can definitely still fight back against us.
 
That means we aren't making allies. We are conquering them. Also I think the humans gods are currently about as strong as we are or at the very least on the same level as us currently due to how many humans there are so they can definitely still fight back against us.
1. Dragons, sheer dragons.
2. Undead, sheer amount of undead.
3. We still have a mortal form.

4. Even if you are right, we just need to build strength first. Namely spreading Dracul's cult to all of Wallachia/Empire of Britain/Dracul's Terrific Tea Territories.
 
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I think we are all underestimating the power of dice and it's ability to screw us over with a Pyrrhic Victory or a bare success
 
1. Dragons, sheer dragons.
2. Undead, sheer amount of undead.
3. We still have a mortal form.

4. Even if you are right, we just need to build strength first. Namely spreading Dracul's cult to all of Wallachia/Empire of Britain/Dracula's Terrific Tea Territories.
For the first three points, that implies we use those strengths to conquer the empire and other kingdoms in order to subjugate their gods otherwise they do not matter. Which I thought a lot of people don't want to do.

For the 4th point, that isn't enough people, it was said we have already converted about 1/2 the population so even if we did do this thats only 10 million more and the empire is just a little short of being over twice the size of brettonia. (Honestly I would say the empire is roughly 1.75x the size of bretonnia just by eye balling it.)

Honestly I don't have a lot faith that we can make allies in the first place because of this
- Bretonnian Borders Fortified: The borders or passages that led towards the kingdom of Bretonnia are being fortified after its falls to a enemy that has incredible and terrifying necromantic powers.
They have already made their view on us pretty apparent.

Either way this next turns diplomacy actions should probably be spent recruiting necromancers and mages. Then the turn after that I expect estalia will have fallen because of that sorcerer so we will probably have to march over there and conquer them.
 
I think we are all underestimating the power of dice and it's ability to screw us over with a Pyrrhic Victory or a bare success
Even the dice can't do much in some areas. Throughout us conquering Bretonnia what was being rolled was basically just how many casualties do we take. We have an army of over 200 million in undead, about 2.5 million dark beasts ,and over 100,000 dragons with more on the way.

Edit: For instance here were the rolls back when we had about 2.5 million undead, 1.25 million dark beasts and 50,000 dragons back at the beginning of the campaign.
The Army of Death: 1d100 + 65 (Undead Bonus) + 40 (Dark Beast Bonus) + 20 (Augment Spell) + 35 (Dragons) = 231
VS
The Tide of Rot: 1d100 + 25 (Nurgle Bonus) - 10 (Disorganized) - 20 (Outnumbered) = 63
 
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@Alucard Vampiry is it possible to make our people warship the other Order gods including the ones that are not warship much or at all
The only other god worshipped by your people en masse right now is Shallya, you will ahve to say why they would worshipp another god that isn't as active as you and Shallya and frankly I can't think of a in-character reason for Dracul to do that.
 
The only other god worshipped by your people en masse right now is Shallya, you will ahve to say why they would worshipp another god that isn't as active as you and Shallya and frankly I can't think of a in-character reason for Dracul to do that.
Ah a waste til we come to the conclusion that the other gods will get powerful by getting other people then in their nation to worship them right @Alucard Vampiry
 
Btw, right now it's only the people in our initial duchy that worship us right? What would happen when we got all of Bretonnia to worship us?
 
@Alucard Vampiry is the omake coming going to be the Tyrant arrival
The Tyrant arrival will be an interlude.
Ah a waste til we come to the conclusion that the other gods will get powerful by getting other people then in their nation to worship them right @Alucard Vampiry
You can only do that if you guys mange to ally with the empire gods. If you don't do that the option will never appear. With the exception of Shallya of course.
 
There is a decent portion of people that don't want to and even if we try it probably has a high dc. I would imagine its at least a 100 because of our previous actions.(Undead army, being a vampire, killing any who oppose us, etc)

So its not set in stone.
Well I for one am willing to try, we'll just do some actions to butter em' up some.

It'll take a bit, sure, but I'm willing, if only for a big pantheon.

You can vote for what you want, I'll vote for what I'll want.
 
Well I for one am willing to try, we'll just do some actions to butter em' up some.

It'll take a bit, sure, but I'm willing, if only for a big pantheon.

You can vote for what you want, I'll vote for what I'll want.
I'm fine with asking them if they want to ally but the moment people want to start wasting diplomacy actions to do charity work for a group of people that dislike us instead of recruiting necromancers and mages I am going to be upset. Also a large pantheon of weak gods is kinda useless.
 
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