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dragonx99
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Raven might not be the worst parent in the show since Jacques sadly still exists, but she is definitely doing all she can to claim the worst mother role.
…I meant that mostly as a joke but it made me realize Yang really did have the worst luck with parents. One physically abandoned her, one died, and the last one emotionally abandoned her, and even now that he's back he is implicitly terrible at this parenting thing. Even if i'm not fully certain the writers realize how bad they made him.
Girl really deserves to have some screen time to let her work through that.
…I meant that mostly as a joke but it made me realize Yang really did have the worst luck with parents. One physically abandoned her, one died, and the last one emotionally abandoned her, and even now that he's back he is implicitly terrible at this parenting thing. Even if i'm not fully certain the writers realize how bad they made him.
Girl really deserves to have some screen time to let her work through that.
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I actually dropped off from RWBY around this point and only started watching again when V6 started. By this point, I can't say for sure why I did so. I suppose it just wasn't grabbing me enough.
He tries, which is better than some of the other options...
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Edgelord fancies themselves great debater, hasn't actually debated anyone in a while, is shocked when they're rusty. It's a classic.
Also a classic: indoor plumbing.
New plan: The gang all goes to Menagerie to get the unconditional love and support of Ghira and Kali.
Understandable, it's a show about cool fight scenes that isn't having any for about three episodes in a row.
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You KNOW Kali was working out adoption plans the moment she heard about Weiss's home life.
dragonx99
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I am absolutely positive I have seen at least one fancomic with that exact premise. Just Kali hearing about Yang or Weiss's parentage and going 'Ghira we have a new daughter!'
Ruby is the only exception i think cause she had two good parents... it's just that one died and the other was her sister which really feels like it deserves more attention than it has gotten.
That also reminds me, if you want to see the peak of Raven.. just being the worst, see the below spoilered panel from one of the comics
V05C07 Rest and Resolutions
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V05C07 Rest and Resolutions
Two three-quarter teams catch up over food. Jaune justifiably gets some stick for dropping the map, then Team RNJR all try to talk each other up w.r.t. the Nuckelavee. Then Nora doesn't believe Weiss summoned a spectral Boarbatusk during a high-society party, and is quite surprised to see the very beastie summoned beside her.
Somehow (I blame Nora) they've gone through almost all the large quantity of food by the time Yang's showing off her mech-arm. Ruby's trying very hard to suppress her weapons-nut tendencies at the sight of an arm that is also a gun, and very slightly succeeding.
Uh oh, Nora wants to arm-wrestle Yang. I foresee this ending in some way badly. So does Weiss, apparently, judging by her attempted dissuasion that fails miserably. The absolute visual comedy of Nora and Yang probably about to damage that table; Jaune, Ren (behind Jaune), and Ruby cheering on their respective teammates; and behind Ruby, Weiss just waiting for the silliness to be over.
Ruby, you have betrayed the entire combat skirt sorority. ...or maybe Nora's skirt just isn't a combat skirt? It would explain a couple of things.
Nobody's sure how to determine a winner when Yang's mech-arm detaches and Nora ends up pasted on the wall. Yang has of course had enough experience with having a detachable arm to find it funny while Nora finds it more startling than the boarbatusk.
Now it is time for nickname throwbacks. Jaune, who unwittingly invited it with his observations on how they somehow ate everything, isn't impressed, but fortunately has an out - he goes to start on the washing-up. Weiss finds it plenty funny to dish out, but can't take it, as I expected; Nora figures out that this is only an affectation.
Ren leads a session of reflection on their personal growth. (I think this is the part where segments of the fandom make off-colour jokes.) All, but Weiss in particular (then Jaune returns and outshines her at it), are fairly disappointed with their past selves. This, says Ren, is proof of personal growth; and there is more to come. Nora reckons she was perfect, and talks over Yang when Yang tries to suggest otherwise. (Imagine if V2 had actually decided to animate that.)
At this point Qrow and Oscar appear, the former irritated at the amount of noise the others are all making. This is the first paragraph in which Nora has not had a starring role (which I have made false by calling attention to it).
All reconvene in the main area, where it is implied that Weiss and Yang just got Drunkle Qrow's Tangentially Related Storytime feat. Ozpin!Oscar. Weiss signs off on it as "for the most part" what Raven told them; Yang objects that they forgot the part where Ozpin gave Qrow and Raven bird powers. Qrow is reluctant to have that part of the story told. Ozpin merely thinks that Raven "must trust [Yang] a great deal" to have told her, which Yang intensely doubts.
And so Ozpin tells the story of how his curse has a few side benefits, like how he could give Qrow and Raven bird powers. This quite astonishes everybody (except Qrow, who obviously knew about it already). Once she's done being astonished, Yang inexplicably treats it as a curse of its own. Qrow disagrees.
Ozpin explains that no, he hasn't given similar gifts to anyone else still living, he's kinda running out of magic after this long and a lot of it is tied up in the four Maidens. Also he doesn't lie, he just doesn't tell the whole truth. :concern: The Branwens accepted their great power and accompanying great responsibility (Ozpin paid the matching great electricity bill), and then Raven deserted. Speaking of which, if anybody wants to leave without deserting, the time is now.
Yang delegates her decision to Ruby, someone she knows is of great moral compass, but demands that Ozpin stop with the lying and the not-telling-the-whole-truth and everything else under that banner. It is a solid nine-and-a-half seconds of silence before Ozpin says "Understood", and this Volume seems to be all about the Relic of Knowledge so I'm not confident that's the end of it.
The next step, says Ozpin, is to take the evening off before resuming the strategic-scale !!fun!! in the morning. He then hands back control to Oscar, who is improving at receiving it.
Nora has just realised the bird names joke.
Back at the Edgecastle, it is Creep's bad luck to be on gate guard duty when who should rock up but Emerald and Mercury (ugh), asking after Raven Branwen. Creep reckons he's so very had it with people looking for Raven and goes to shoot one of them, but reconsiders when they are followed by Cinder and Watts - not fast enough, as Cinder lets her Shadows off the leash. Discretionary cut away before Emerald opens fire.
Most of the credits concept art is food.
Next time: Baka.
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Seriously Oz, Raven just saw a chance to be a collosal bitch about it.
No, this is valid in a lot of ways. As the immortal secret keeper in an eternal war against a demonic witch-queen, operational security is an issue. This volume, we're seeing that demonstrated with lionheart, who has no doubt told Salem everything Oz ever shared with him, and who is now having the secret of ozs return kept from him.
The problem would be if Ozs secret keeping begins to endanger his allies, such as if they were being denied mission critical information.
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SolipsistSerpent
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... I don't think this is a spoiler at this point, but I need someone else to weigh in before the @michaelb958 views it.
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To be fair, Raven phrased it as "What Ozpin did to my brother and me." Yang's outrage is somewhat confusingly worded, but I think the implication is that Raven was framing it as something forced on them rather than an offer that they accepted. Regardless of how freely controlled the shift is, if that power was forced upon them it could definitely be seen as a violation of their soul—or, like, spiritual autonomy?—which is why Qrow's interjection emphasizes "we wanted this."
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dragonx99
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Ok so I almost commented on this last time but felt i should let all the characters give their reactions first; Remember how you initially mistook the bird things as being their semblance or being a secondary semblance or something?
That's kind of a problem I have with the three power systems in RWBY. We have Dust, Semblances and Magic, but we don't really have much to go off of to differentiate them from one another or tell what is and isn't supposed to be possible for any given one.
SolipsistSerpent
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I don't think it's as big an issue with Dust. It's pretty much all 'summon some kind of elemental force from your weapon/some other piece of tech or add an elemental effect to your semblance (with gravity being an element).
Semblance vs magic gets a bit murkier, though.
dragonx99
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I admit my problem with Dust is more that they never really go into basic details with it in the show. Like I don't think they ever mentioned even what the basic types are, let alone that there's a super special and rare hardlight kind that you can do fun things with like making Velvet's weapon.
Also like, what does plant type do since I don't think it has ever been used for anything.
SolipsistSerpent
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I do agree a few more details on Dust would be handy, but it's still fairly intuitive system. Plant, like every other type of Dust, including Hardlight, just summons a bunch of the thing it's named after (it's not used in the TV show, it's never even mentioned in the TV Show but the wiki says a bad guy uses it to derail a train by summoning plants onto the rails ahead of it in A Grimm Awakening).
It would make more sense if that was Raven saying it.
Semblances are like being born with one spell to the point it's considered normal, magic is when you get more than the one you are born with and that's weird for what people in Remnant perceive as normal.
SolipsistSerpent
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Okay, @michaelb958 you can watch the video I've linked to in spoilers above, it's an excerpt from a longer video. The excerpt I'm linking to has no spoilers, but the original video ("So, this is basically RWBY") probably does, so don't hunt that down.
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I'd expect it could be a bit weird to try to wrap your head around someone being an informed mutually-hostile third party to your shadow war for the fate of the world.
I get it, I really do. Poor operational security is half the reason they all got here in the first place instead of mostly being second-years at Beacon. But we're dealing with mostly a gaggle of teenagers, and this feels like the writers telegraphing that they (the teenagers)'ll be mad about more secrets.
So it's all about consent, really. Seems fair.
...Raven's terrible, but absolutely cursed implications of a woman withdrawing consent and her male partners insisting otherwise. Tangled cursed mess that I would like to have not thought of.
It's easy, really. Dust behaves according to its type, Semblances are personal superpowers according to personality, and magic does whatever the h*ck it wants which is okay because (counts) eight people can use it, one of whom hasn't left her castle of evil for ages and two more just get birdforms.
I thought V01C02 listed the basic types, but the wiki's list of the basic types doesn't match so now I'm in the dark.
{{Bad news: I've long, long since seen it. Thanks that one fanfic! We're slightly lucky my opinion of the show survived it, really. I'm planning to dissect it post-V6 (the time of its release).}}
dragonx99
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The problem with rules for Semblances is, as always,
Why do the Schnee all have the exact same one? I know Winter says its unique that their family is like that, but how is it supposed to work with what we know about Semblances? Cause Weiss, Winter, and when she shows up Willow, are all very different people
Weiss was just naming a couple off the top of her head.
It's annoying how many people take it as a fair source of critique instead of a quippy parody with little to no depth beyond quick jokes about the surface level of things.
When something is regularly pointed out to be an exception there is likely a reason for it that will be revealed after people have gotten used to forgetting how weird it is.The problem with rules for Semblances is, as always,
Why do the Schnee all have the exact same one? I know Winter says its unique that their family is like that, but how is it supposed to work with what we know about Semblances? Cause Weiss, Winter, and when she shows up Willow, are all very different people
SolipsistSerpent
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Which is all it's meant to be, the writer actually likes (or at least liked) most of the things they've picked for "So This is Basically."
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From an idiot who can't see past the surface, deliberately misinterprets things to fit his rather disturbing views, and who has since burned all his bridges and killed his own voice acting career because he's too stupid to know when to shut the fuck up and stop talking easily-disproven bullshit.
V05C08 Alone Together
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V05C08 Alone Together
The subtitles seem to be about half a second late, which is the best they've been all Volume.
Titles: Adam and Hazel are standing in the still-not-making-this-up White Fang throne room.
Ruby lies down in their little training area and looks at birds. One of these days a bird will poop on someone, but this time it just leads Ruby's view to Yang. The sisters commiserate on their insomnia, which by the rules of narrative causality summons Weiss with coffee. Remember when Weiss mended fences with Ruby with coffee? I do, just. The evidence suggests that Weiss does too. ...she might need to do it again at this rate.
Yang can't believe they're actually in Mistral. And (gestures at everything), but that was what she led with. Weiss is still getting caught up with the whole 'no longer imprisoned by a succession of bandits of variable respectability' thing. (Yes, I am calling Jacques a bandit.) They toast to "defying expectations" as Ruby provides the funny background event by sculling at least half her coffee and suffering no ill effects.
Ruby wishes for Blake to be there too. Things take a turn for the worse with the reveal that, unsurprisingly now that I think about it, Blake remains unaddressed trauma for Yang. Weiss looks very surprised; it's possible she's heard even less about Blake's departure, depending on when exactly she was hustled onto the last flight back to Atlas.
Yep, Yang's still upset. Very much so. It's not like she cared about Blake or anything. Baka.
Okay Yang, maybe a little bit less taking it out on the other half of the team?
Yang has the bio-arm-trembles again. Okay, so it's not a combat thing, it's more of an adrenaline thing or something. Look, do I look like a doctor to you? Anyway, she leaves to
Blake has nobody to trade looks of concern with, because she's out on the balcony and Sun's inside, shouting out to check that she's ready to go somewhere. Let's find out where.
Not yet, because Ilia has left her a letter taped stealthily to the outside of the balcony railing. Without our metaknowledge that she's worried the Albains are going a bit far, it screams attempted trap. With it, we can be pretty sure it's sincere. Of course, I could be wrong and the Albains found the right angle to get her all the way on board. We'll probably find out sometime.
Sun's wondering whether they're actually going signature-gathering in "the nocturnal section" (a concept that makes more sense the more I think about it) or is Blake (who quickly pockets the letter) just going to brood on the balcony the whole time. Actually Blake will be going via the one-on-one meeting Ilia wanted. Does she know Ilia well enough to be confident it's not a trap? Is she confident that any trap can't hurt her? Or is she just wearing rose-tinted glasses of her very own? Find out later, I guess!
In what I presume is a Haven dorm room, Yang stares at her own copy of the "NEW FRIENDS" photo of Team RWBY. I'm not even going to try to parse out her feelings without help.
Here's somebody knocking on the door to help. Yang bids them enter, then tells Ruby to delay the talk a bit longer. We haven't seen the entrant, so 0% chance it's actually Ruby. Yep, it's Weiss. (I was actually expecting Qrow.)
"Oh. Hey, Weiss, did you need something?" You to brood less? It feels like that's the conversation that's brewing as Weiss sits on the opposite bed.
Weiss lets Yang open the conversation, and Yang duly sticks her foot in her mouth by not having any idea of the Schnee family dynamics (statics?). And also before that by still being done with Blake. I've been there, Yang. I've cut people off before for acts not of malice. I've invariably regretted it.
Anyway, fitting that they're in a school, because Yang is about to get an education on what it means to be alone in a family.
Yang wishes she could hit as hard as Weiss just did.
Weiss comes over to sit with Yang as she (Weiss) explains that that was the catalyst for her mother to fall into isolation and alcoholism. But on the other hand, she continues, they all have their own flavours of loneliness, and so does Blake, for h*ck's sake Yang try actually thinking about it - Blake tried her very best to keep people safe from her past, and as soon as she took a breather, said past did Yang an involuntary traumatic amputation.
I haven't met much trauma recovery IRL (for which I am thankful), but I've read a fair bit of fiction that deals with it, and a common-as-dirt trope of that fiction is having to push people past being angry into acknowledging that they're sad before they can start healing from it. Weiss has finally pushed Yang past anger here: Yang fumes that Blake left without even asking anyone if they felt endangered by her (Blake's) past, fumes that Blake didn't stick around to support them, admits that she wanted Blake's support and immediately enters her own quiet emotional breakdown state that had been patiently knocking on the metaphorical door for a Volume and a half.
It is now left to Weiss to assure Yang that Blake will return, and also that Schnee family statics have led to Weiss treating Team RWBY (that includes you, Yang!) as more of a family than most of her actual family.
Now here's Ruby. She asks if everything's okay. Yang says it is, so either Weiss actually got through to her or she (Yang)'s lying through her teeth (hey, I distinctly remember someone doing it, if not who...).
Blake walks into an alley. It might be the one where she saw Ilia in her character short, or it might be that all alleys look the same to me. I'm leaning towards the first, given that Blake is specifically looking for Ilia, and that Ilia shows up.
Blake draws. Ilia emerges from the shadows with her hands up. Blake offers the Belladonnas' personal protection, to which Ilia just apologises. Blake says she can ...atone? is that the word I'm after?... by helping stop the Albains. Ilia reiterates her apology and springs the trap. Darnit Ilia!
Just, darnit Ilia! She makes no secret that Adam's ideology has infected her, full-on monologuing to a restrained Blake about how there are two kinds of people, us and them, and only fear can stop hate (
).Somewhere in there Blake made her peace with dying in this alleyway for Ilia's sins, which is a h*ck of a thing to contemplate. Blake un-peaces very rapidly when Ilia reveals that the other Belladonnas are also marked for death, and pivots to despair when she learns she's being sent to Adam.
Oh no, it's the only thing that could possibly have made this messier: Ilia was jealous of Adam for having Blake. That has now festered into whatever tangle of neuroses makes her (Ilia) think it's a good idea to package up Blake for Adam. Nobody has accused the human (or faunus) mind of making sense. ...Baka.
Ilia takes Yuma (the Albains' assassin) with her, ordering the other two of the party (one of whom is named Trifa, which I am noting for later because surely it'll come up again, like Yuma did) to drag Blake off to the docks. This is Blake's moment to spring the counter-trap: Sun makes a dynamic entry that knocks out Trifa's remaining colleague instantly, and Trifa looked outclassed by one Hunter-trainee even before the reveal that she had to take her focus off restraining Blake and now she's fighting two (it is a short fight).
Blake is not okay, but bigger problems. She has Sun call the police while she calls Kali. Relying on the police in White Fang assassin central? I suppose they don't have many better options.
Kali can't come to the phone right now because she's in a gunfight. Ghira can't help her because he's the main target. As usual for fiction, the guards are a bit useless.
Ohhhhh man, Ghira's about to give the Albains the absolute beatdown that he always wanted to and I am absolutely here for it. Unfortunately it won't be this Chapter.
Next time: Match maiden heaven. Or probably hell, actually.
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Oof. I knew the Shnee papa was a real jerk, but I'd forgotten the exact details of why in the years since this episode. Poor kid Weiss.
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Yeah... Remember a comment of yours from an earlier episode?
Turns out Blake had actually started the romance chain without knowing!
(This is also the real reason I was cackling like a loon at the time)
More seriously, Ilia has no idea how much danger she's in. Adam reacts poorly to anyone touching his toys, after all. If he knew Ilia had feelings for Blake... we might never find her body. All at once.
Between Raven, Summers death, Tai just shutting down for a few years, and Qrow keeping his distance somewhat between his job and his semblance, Yang has had a LOT of people in her life walk out on her in one way or another. Waking up missing a limb and her partner? That hit her in all the trauma weak points.
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