IWIW RWBY

...and then they pretty much do the same thing again at the end of the Chapter.

I actually didn't realize that detail about the mushroom samba until tonight. You're helping! :p

I was keeping the implication it was deliberate on the cats part in spoilers, just in case.

I still didn't realize it was deliberate that time until your review post.
 
I'm not sure he could've helped honestly, the smoke cloud visions seem to only capture a single person. So he'd just gain his own alongside the rest of them.

I've forgotten what this could be in response to. Presumably something younger Ruby said?
Quick note, but Little's non-binary - they/them for them.
 
However, my jimmies are rustled anyway.)
Mood and if nothing else, V9 has apparently existed more or less as long as V1 so anythings possible ;)
They manage to make recombining look unsettling.
I so love the Curious Cats animation.
Sorry what's this?

Also haha, good eye with the butterfly.
"From one cat to another," she said, which is somewhat funny.
Gosh there's a meme I want to share but its low key a spoiler but aaah I wanna share it if i can find it, once you get to the episode, hopefully I'll have found it.
which I feel shouldn't be that funny but is.
Same.

Also the selfie pics are great XD
(Remember Ciel? It's okay if you didn't.)
I do, I liked her design.
Or maybe not; their phrasing is "concerned with trivial things" and goodness knows what they mean by "trivial".
>:3c
Look at that, an Acre boundary.
Fun fact, I asked the artist of the acre concept art how big they were and while they couldn't give an exact number they did clarify that the acres were BIG.
Ruby takes a self-esteem hit and stops. Yang and Blake try to shore her up.
Glad you noticed both sides.
Wow, there's a story there.
Loved the implications with this.
their past selves inviting them to remain in the past, where things were easier.
I don't think it was the past, Yang had the past, Blake was being offered a way out of dealing with prejudice & Weiss her families legacy.
(this must be the horror-movie-creepy-child effect at work).
Fair.

Also wait which part of the dialogue got the all caps response >;3c
I'm not sure he could've helped honestly, the smoke cloud visions seem to only capture a single person. So he'd just gain his own alongside the rest of them.
They, but also yeah they likely were in a hallucination to, though it may well have just been like, "Naps are cheese are great right?" - "Right!"
Spoiler: End of season musing on the Cats ADHD, spoilered because I don't know how much of the volume you've seen
Excellent eye there!
Has he? Or did the Cat make an assumption, jump in at a bad moment and mess up the Herbalists help? After all, his method did help the other three.
To be fair I think their bitter attitude and impatience indicate they were getting sick of their job or at least their perspective on it.
"...invincible monster that took your mother!".
A valid and also fair.
 
Oh! You're one of today's lucky tens-of-thousands!

The Phantom Tollbooth (1961 book) is a children's novel that uses fantasy concepts to encourage the value of education. I probably just made it sound a hell of a lot more boring than it actually is. You should read it sometime, it's pretty good.

Protagonist Milo passes through both capital cities of the (politically divided) land of Wisdom en route to rescuing the banished princesses Rhyme and Reason. At Dictionopolis, King Azaz the Unabridged lets Milo talk himself into the quest in the first place, and gives him a lot of useful advice - but says that one last important thing to know about the quest, Milo cannot be told until he returns from it. At Digitopolis, the Mathemagician initially refuses to help because of a longstanding feud with his counterpart ruler, but agrees to help if Milo can prove that the rulers have agreed on anything, and Milo promptly proves that they agreed to disagree - the Mathemagician helps, but also refuses to tell him that last important thing.

Post-quest, they tell him: It was impossible. Milo goes 'wat' for a moment (although not in those words, seeing as this is a novel from 1961); the explanation is that calling a task impossible is often a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The Curious Cat may now be invoking that deliberately.

Fun fact, I asked the artist of the acre concept art how big they were and while they couldn't give an exact number they did clarify that the acres were BIG.
I suspect they're as big as they need to be at any given time, spacetime being all wacky down here and all that.

Glad you noticed both sides.
I try not to be a hater. Much.

I don't think it was the past, Yang had the past, Blake was being offered a way out of dealing with prejudice & Weiss her families legacy.
I'd say that those things are, in some way, the past. The Schnee legacy? Built from past. Passing as human? A thing Blake did in the past.
 
Love it and also ooh awesome, that does sound interesting, thanks for sharing!
I suspect they're as big as they need to be at any given time, spacetime being all wacky down here and all that.
That could also be true XD
I try not to be a hater. Much.
Honestly a good attitude, I've found both in my own experience and from observation falling into a hater mind-set tends to rot critical thinking.
I'd say that those things are, in some way, the past. The Schnee legacy? Built from past. Passing as human? A thing Blake did in the past.
Hmm, I can sort of see it, its definitely rejecting regression/simplicity whatever the case.
 
V09C05 The Parfait Predicament
I have recently been accused of knowing my way around a kitchen. This must have been one of those things where I wasn't noticing that I was climbing the skill curve, as so often happens to me.

Speaking of amateur food preparation:



V09C05 The Parfait Predicament


Okay so Team WBY are still shrunk - the Herbalist was negative help with that and then got pushed into a hole by the Curious Cat - so I'll guess that's the predicament.

This upload has a repeatable playback hiccup in the titles, during the storybook sequence. Not a great sign. Speaking of, just after that is what we now know to be the Herbalist. Just after that is Jaune and the clocks; the preceding context is in series-chronological order so maybe we'll finally get to him now?

The other layer of Ruby's falling sequence contains the Herbalist, followed by what could be either the Rusted Knight or the Red Prince if looked at correctly but both of those have appeared in this sequence already, followed by I have paused on the right frame to see what looks like a fiery dragon of some kind? Goodness knows what that means.



Ruby sprints through the neon forest, presumably away from the Herbalist's hut. After a while she stops to catch her breath, and Team WBY+L attempt to wordlessly reassure her.

"I'm so glad the four of you are still the four of you," says the Curious Cat catching up to them.

Weiss is so very Done with (gestures at everything). The Cat brushes it off, commenting that "Alyx had a similar reaction the first time she saw someone return to the Ever After.". Given that the Cat not long ago established that the Ever After is still their present location, this raises more questions than it answers. They proceed to answer absolutely none of them.

After a while of saying bewildering things and advancing further into the forest, the Cat declares "We're here.". "Here" is some sort of fascinating structure on the far side of a river that can only be crossed by lilypad ferries.

During the crossing, the Cat finally gives an answer or two, framing the Herbalist's fate as what happens to those that ignore the calling of their natural end-of-life (because that is a thing here). He'll be repaired in the afterlife and returned to find his purpose anew, minus his memories. Weiss protests that all things must die, to which the Cat says that's not how it works here, except for some creature that's "[...]not the sort of thing you talk about in polite company.". Ruby is left wide-eyed.

The fascinating structure is actually in the middle of what's actually a lake rather than a river. As they disembark, it is confirmed that the Red King underwent a similar recycling through the afterlife - "Ascension" - to become the Red Prince.

Blake protests that the fairy tale didn't say anything about Ascension. The Cat dismisses "Exposition is terribly boring!", perched on the head of that lion-mask thing from the title sequence as it strolls past them. Blake wonders "what else Alyx left out".

The Cat promises to procure most of the ingredients for the shrunkenness antidote, assigning Team RWBY+L to go and get one of them from a vendor on the third floor of the structure. Given the Chapter title plus the Cat's prior remarks about promises, I'm thinking this will go poorly. It's not off to a great start, with the Cat immediately getting distracted. Yang volunteers to keep the Cat on task, Blake volunteers to go with Yang, and Weiss insists on accompanying them to retrieve their ingredients rather than Ruby's. I'm thinking this will go very poorly. At least Ruby still has Little.

The vendor who distracted the Cat gets distracted by the Cat wandering off and then by Ruby, allowing several mice to make off with their stock of cheeseroots. Little stands on Ruby's head and proclaims "Onward!", and then gets drowsy - even Ruby is now enjoying that recurring joke.



Wait, this thing has a continuously sloping ramp around the outside, where even is the "third floor"? Not to mention accounting for which floor counts as "first", which is a source of difficulty even here on Earth. When I was at university different buildings had different answers, and it wasn't even a huge or old university.

Ruby's search for the right vendor is interrupted by a sudden black shroud that sweeps over the landscape and reduces visibility to less than forty metres (and diminishing all the time). Suddenly there is what looks and sounds like a small explosion from off to her right - it doesn't have a blast wave, but otherwise it's a dead ringer. Ruby is more concerned with what it draws her attention to: this vendor has a rack of weapons on display, one of which is a Pennyblade.

As visibility fades to less than ten metres, the vendor asks "Does that one interest you?", startling Ruby, who did not have eyes for anything other than the jade-green sword that she's now holding. I'm guessing that this is the blacksmith from the titles. They tell Ruby that, contrary to Ruby's expectations, "nothing is ever truly lost". The sword momentarily manifests Penny's reflection, startling Ruby again.

Ruby insists she isn't lost, her friends are just elsewhere. The blacksmith sounds like they're judging Ruby for being alone here. Cue Little to wake up, but Little is deeply unsettled by the circumstances. Under their own questioning, they (Little) declare their intention to help Ruby return home despite not knowing how.

The blacksmith moves on to commenting that Ruby is "carrying a rather large burden with you". Ruby says, I kid you not, "I'm fine.", spoken exactly like someone who is not fine. She is given an open invitation to choose a weapon "and set your burden down". She discovers that she's holding a nondescript dagger, which reflects someone else's face. This entire situation is Fine™ at every possible level.

Ruby says she already has a weapon. "And yet, here you are," says the blacksmith, as another weapon catches Ruby's eye. It looks like an axe that's also a gun. Ruby visually searches it, then is taken aback for some reason - it reflects Summer Rose at her. That would do it.

Summer's reflection blankets the area in silver eyes. Cut through white to essentially the scene before the vision-limiting darkness set in, plus the Curious Cat asking her whether she did her part of the fetch quest yet. She hasn't, as we know. Weiss sounds disappointed in Ruby. Ruby sounds disappointed in herself. Blake just points out the vendor they were looking for.

The Cat hops up on the vendor's table to explain what they're after, and, being a cat, proceeds to knock things off. As a liege of two cats, that one got me. This is all interrupted by literal fireworks from outside. Yang is mildly excited about "a festival". As the Cat grabs a small bottle from the table, the fireworks start displaying "Danger" and people start screaming about the Jabberwalker. So, not a festival.

The vendor panics and shuts up shop, insisting that there's no time to complete the transaction. Ruby panics and offers the first thing she can think of: her metal rose pin. "It carries a mother's promise!" Ouch my heart.

The Cat exposits a bit about the Jabberwalker: it is the aforementioned permadeath-bringing creature. Ruby hastily assembles the aforementioned antidote as the Cat warns them not to overdose on it on pain of being grown too much - shrinking is "a completely different potion". Team WBY all shovel some down and grow a bit. Blake worries that "It wasn't enough!". Calm down Blake, pretty much all of it is still there, just eat some more!

There's no time - the Jabberwalker has arrived. Ruby gathers everyone up and Semblances around it, but is batted by its tail and loses her grip on everything, including the slightly larger Team WBY and the antidote. The latter flies further and some of it splashes the Jabberwalker. That might be bad.

Sure enough, the Jabberwalker gets bigger. Some other vendor who's been jabbering on in the background for half the Chapter dive-bombs it, the Cat explaining that they "gave him something new to do for the moment" and telling Team RWBY to use the distraction to reach the antidote. They're still not bought enough time to do so.

The Jabberwalker dispenses with its current opponent and turns to menace Team RWBY+L. Suddenly, something galloping! It looks like the Rusted Knight's accompanying creature, but it's only seen from about the point-of-shoulder down so I can't be sure. Rapid cutting between the Jabberwalker being menacing, Team RWBY+L being menaced, and now the Rusted Knight who seems to be riding something so possibly this thing is their trusty steed. Now Ruby, at least, has noticed it coming.

Yep, this is metal. And I'm not just referring to the Rusted Knight's armour, or the music that's starting to kick in.

Knight and steed provide a more enduring distraction for Team WBY to reach the antidote. "Ugh, finally!" says Yang, having (along with Weiss and Blake) grown to about double Ruby's height. Yep, they overdid it.

And here come the lyrics!

The Cat urges Ruby to follow it, and I think she did. Meanwhile, Team WBY, enlarged by about the same scale factor as the Jabberwalker was, assist the Rusted Knight in fighting off the Jabberwalker. With four (or five, depending on whether the steed counts) fresh, skilled opponents, it doesn't last long.

"Neo?" asks Blake. Wait, h*ck, its death looks a lot like Neo's illusion animations did. Weiss seems to get it, but Yang just looks confused. Another Jabberwalker climbs onto the level, confusing the h*ck out of the Rusted Knight who snaps that "there's only supposed to be one!". Obligatory Star Wars meme goes here.

Yet another Jabberwalker climbs up to reinforce the second. Then four more come up the path. The Knight decides that discretion is the better part of valour and urges them to follow. Team WBY do; Weiss and the Cat have to urge Ruby before she (Ruby) does so, the Cat promising (ah h*ck) to hold them off.

Team RWBY+L+K reach the top of the structure and take in the destruction. Also there is the vendor from before, in tears. Nobody even tries to comfort her. For shame, you lot! Weiss is busy with her own problems: "I am so tired of leaving places in ashes.". (It looks like Team WBY actually got back to their proper sizes, and Yang looking way bigger than Ruby was an optical illusion caused by Ruby kneeling or similar.) Ruby can't think of anything to say to that. :(

Now they're all in some passage at the top of the structure, and Blake can finally fangirl at meeting the Rusted Knight. He's not interested, just telling his steed "You did good, Juniper." before taking his helmet off and turning around:
Rusted Knight: "Team RWBY."

Team RWBY: (taken aback)

Rusted Knight: "You finally made it."
It seems like they recognise each other, and I somewhat wish I did.



...oh h*ck me that forward-slash explains some things and not others. Suffice to say that we did, in fact, meet Jaune this Chapter. Just now.

On the other hand, there were no further playback hiccups.



Next time: It's about time.
 
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I'm guessing that this is the blacksmith from the titles

And here's my favorite character of V9. Yes, above even Little, although it was a VERY close race :p

Blake just points out the vendor they were looking for.

The vendor was voiced by Kdin Jenzin, in her last vocal role on the show before she got the hell out of Texas.

"It carries a mother's promise!"

It's also the only part of Ruby's outfit that's been there since the first episode. Even her cloak was repaired and possibly replaced in V7.

Yang, having (along with Weiss and Blake) grown

A common joke in the FNDM at the time was Weiss maybe accidentally-on-purpose having too much of the parfait.
 
When Salem gloats-ish that after that She'll have the Relic of Creation, Oscar (or Ozpin? I'm not certain) chooses that moment to speak up.
I'm not entirely sure there, myself, but it is a perfect opening to bring up this funny and insightful comment Oscar's VA had on mimicking Ozpin's VA's speech patterns for when Oz is in the pilot seat.

...I unfortunately can't find the quote now, dangit. Welp, will keep you posted if I do.
Kinda off-topic to the current Volume (need to catch up a bit, been busy the past couple weeks) but I found the quote!


View: https://youtu.be/kkClRh4Z1pc?t=2220
(Video is timestamped, but if the timestamp doesn't work, 37:00 is around the start of the right area)
The full answer is a bit longer and more in-depth, but the summation at the end is what I was thinking of:

"Yeah, so. I relax, I hate myself, I get a little fancy, then I think about the way that I would normally read something that I think is like, traditionally correct reading, and I don't do that."
Which just struck me as both a very funny way of describing it, but also pretty apt to Ozpin's headspace and speech mannerisms.


Though ironically now that I've found the quote, I also went back and checked the scene in question again, and I think it was probably just Oscar talking there? Again kinda hard to tell because of how (understandably) agitated he sounded, but also that strikes me as more Oscar's vibe. Sooo this whole digression probably wasn't nearly as insightful/relevant as I thought it was when I originally brought it up, but ah well. ^.^;
 
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Sorry for the belated and rather meek comment, run ragged recently, but solid reaction all round, aside I loved how charming Ruby's body language was when escorting Weiss away from the sight of the battle, lots of fan artists did too. Also huzzah, I adore the Blacksmith, voice, design, vibes, the works.
 
V09C06 Confessions within Cumulonimbus Clouds

V09C06 Confessions within Cumulonimbus Clouds


Between last and this Chapter, I happened to be out for dinner at a location of the Pancake Parlour, whose interior decorations gave off extreme Lewis Carroll vibes. It was a bit disconcerting.

So, what are the clocks about? Let's find out.

Changed shot! The Rusted Knight, aka Jaune Arc, is no longer helmeted in his first appearance.

The falling sequence ends with the statue of Neo, of course; the background appears to be a tree made of pink shards of some kind, resembling Neo's illusions before they specialise. The Jabberwalker and Curious Cat are stuck in this tree. The former may have been foreshadowing their apparent alliance last Chapter. I don't like what that might imply about the latter.



Black screen. Slow dramatic music. Sounds of battle.

As we started Chapter 1 with first-person Ruby falling, so we start Chapter 6 with first-person Jaune falling. Because normal spacetime does not apply here, Crescent Rose falls simultaneously with him, and he dives to grab it on the way down.

Cut through black to Jaune waking up on the beach, implied to not have made it to Crescent Rose. Just like Ruby, he has no idea what's going on. He appears to have abandoned his weapon on the beach - we know the sword is broken, but still, the shield ought to still work.

Cut through black to Jaune hacking his way through the jungle, having evidently retrieved his weapon (at least the shield part, collapsed into the sheath). He reaches a tree that is very loudly ticking. Its fruits are clocks. He picks one. It almost immediately starts swiftly running backwards. So does whatever passes for time in the Ever After. Among the first things to noticeably run backwards are several coloured meteors that I'm guessing were Team RWBY.

Jaune, understandably, panics. There's not much he can do about it. Eventually his panic leads him to throw the clockfruit on the ground, which still does nothing, and smash it with his sword-sheath, which does.

Cut to Jaune sitting on the beach watching the sun set (in the right direction), as it sinks in how alone he now is. In voiceover, the Jaune of the present narrates "I thought maybe I'd never see you again.", just in case it hadn't sunk in for us. But he resolved to time-travel back the slow way. No-transition to a much older Jaune watching the meteors fall again; I think those two are Weiss and Blake. {{Actually they're not.}}

Cut back to Jaune realising that the Ever After (or perhaps Neo) might be pulling a fast one on him and this might not be the real Team RWBY. We know they are, and Ruby assures him that they are. This would ordinarily be enough to rule out Neo's involvement, but the first Jabberwalker illusion talked just fine, so.

Team RWBY+J+L group hug! Yes, even Little found a way.

And now the Comedy™ begins. Team RBY have sensible questions. Weiss just, well, just imagine the spluttering if V1-2 Weiss and Jaune saw that ten-second sequence.

And now the Comedy™ ends - Ruby has just asked him to fill them in on the rest of V8, which will oh no Weiss only said Penny "sacrificed herself" and that got Ruby to faint, imagine the all-round despair if Jaune spills the full details. I'm imagining it and I don't want to.



We are spared the full exposition, instead fading to another scene after it's complete. Jaune has confirmed that Salem got her mitts on both Knowledge and Creation, which Ruby is understandably disheartened to hear. Team WBY mull over Cinder still being alive and the key to Choice, which Salem reportedly hasn't found yet but will given enough time to search the ruins of Beacon, leaving Destruction as the only Relic that can yet be defended.

Blake, unusually, is the voice of optimism, asserting that they saved (most of) the population of Atlas. Weiss asserts that it was for nothing because the risk to them in the first place was the scheme to safeguard Creation, which failed, and Ruby backs that up with a reminder that rescuing population is useless if Salem reunites the Relics and gets everyone killed anyway. Yang tries to shore up Ruby, or maybe not, because her chosen method of doing so is to tell Ruby that that's how Ironwood saw it, which is not a productive framing. Jaune now gets snippy with them for wasting time in the face of clearly oncoming bad weather.

Fade to Team RWBY+JJ on the road, heading for what Jaune describes as "his village". He's somewhat surprised that they made it this far from the Crimson Castle on their own. Blake says they had help. Cue the Curious Cat to reappear.

Jaune and the Cat know each other and do not get on. The bad weather rolls in as an argument brews. Jaune asserts that the really big tree, Team RWBY's intended destination, is not a good idea at all because it's where Ascension happens. The Cat shrugs that off, saying that Ascension won't work that way for non-citizens. To which:
Jaune: "Oh yeah? Then what happened to Lewis?"

Ruby: "Who?"

Jaune: "Alyx's brother."

(swell of dramatic musical sting as everybody looks to the Cat)
Team RWBY try to reshape their worldviews. Yang wins the race to ask the Cat why they never said anything. The Cat says they never asked, which is an excellently Catlike answer but will inflame tensions. Weiss fumes that she put her trust in a story that turns out to be inaccurate. Right on cue, the bad weather is almost on top of them all. Jaune says he has a plan. The Cat is dismissive. Ruby pleads for time to wrap her head around it all. The Cat declares them to be "stuck at a crossroads", to which Jaune reprises Ozpin from that time Ruby asked Jinn a question: shouting a negative and trying to retroactively stop the Cat from saying something, to no avail. The screen goes white, then fades to black as Jaune whispers "Dammit.".



It's the portal-bridge-land that was next in the titles! We begin on a central island that makes sense, featuring a crossroads. Well, this is going to suck.

"Welcome to a punderstorm," Jaune briefs Team RW. It's taken their abstract problem, he says, and manifested it concretely. I see this is what he was worried about with the storm rolling in.

As Jaune tells them that they have to solve the abstract problem or wait out the storm (which I'm guessing will take longer), Weiss, Done with everything, declares the situation to be "the pits", and immediately falls down one that appears for the purpose. Jaune doesn't react at all, so Ruby takes his lead. Weiss soon falls from a great height back onto the spot she started and declares that she really should have expected that. (Her weapon must be clipping into the ground.)

Only now does Ruby realise that Team BY aren't with them. "Must have had something bigger to work out," mutters Jaune. So punderstorms sort you based on what your problems are, independently of which one was punned on? Scary, but also cool.

Another lightning-strike transition to Yang, who finds herself on a rickety storm-swept bridge which also looks familiar from this bit of the titles. She and Blake (in a matching situation) soon notice each other. There is a central island between them, but it's at least fifty metres away from each of them and there are no further planks on the bridges. I feel like they'll have to talk to progress.



Back on the 'ground', Jaune tells Team RW that the events depicted in the fairy tale "all happened. Just not the way Alyx said when she wrote it.". Meanwhile, they pass by mirrors (that look like unframed portals) depicting past events: this one shows Penny, this one an exterior view of Atlas...

Jaune recounts, with animatic assistance, what the h*ck happened. He's also grown up with the fairy tale, so he was a bit confused to be living through it - mostly. Bits were different. For example, Alyx herself (animatic confirms she is/was Storybook Shot Character #5) was a worse person than depicted. (Shocking. /s) After meeting with the Herbalist, she also became distrusting. Jaune's attempts to "get the story back on track" only started that distrust on a vicious spiral, culminating in Alyx poisoning him to get him out of the way.

Animatic end. Weiss offers what little sympathy she can. It is left to Ruby to ask about the Cat. Jaune, staring at a mirror depicting his younger self, tells them (and us) that basically the Cat is to Ascension as Death is to death, convincing - "manipulating" - Ever After residents who have fallen out of sync with their roles to either get back on track or go get recycled. Remnant residents have no role in the Ever After, so the Cat sends them to become tree food.

"How can you be sure?" asks Ruby. Cue Lewis? Yep. Alyx and Lewis went to the tree, and only Alyx returned to Remnant.



Back in the air:
Yang: "Are you all right?"

Blake: "I'll feel a lot better when we're together, on that platform."
Right on cue, another bridge plank appears in front of Blake. I knew it! Yang decides it must be a magic word, and tries them out, to no avail. Eventually she settles for encouraging Blake to figure it out, which leads to complimenting Blake, which manifests a plank or two in front of Yang. I knew it!

The winds around them are dying down. Yang still takes the wrong lesson initially:
Yang: "You have cat ears!"

(nothing happens)

Yang: "I think your cat ears are cute."

(+1 Yang plank)

Yang: "Nailed it! Even though I don't know what 'it' is yet."

Blake: "Maybe it's... saying things we never said... to each other."
Yang shrugs and wordlessly invites Blake to have a turn. I think background music is developing: either lyrics or a backing choir.

Blake has a turn (as a distinct backing-choir pattern emerges). Blake is rewarded with several bridge planks. Yang has a turn, and also gets several planks. This is all adorable and making progress, but not fast progress, and Yang seems to agree:
"Let's make this quicker. Any big truths we haven't dropped on each other yet?"
(checks Chapter title) I think I know where this is going and I am excite. Blake blushes. The sky around them clears from boring clouds to orange. Yang looks preemptively poleaxed, then both lurch as the bridges pull a hundred metres backward from the central island. Blake makes the increasingly safe assumption:
"Did you just think of something, but didn't say it?"

"That can't be what this is about." (maybe narrating) "It's like... a cliff. And if I do it, I'm just going to... fall."
Editor's note: No! There's been enough falling!

To which Blake, maybe in narration, retorts (how did she know to? is this some kind of bridge telepathy?) "I think we're already falling." Outside narration, she continues: "Just... say it, Yang." Yang takes a deep breath, and says it. Blake was only waiting for that cue to also say it. (Lyrics!) Suddenly they're both on the central island, which, contrary to its prior barren appearance, suddenly has a mild coating of grass and flowers. There is only one fit and proper next action here.

Wait for it.

Wait for it...

(raucous cheering from the comments section)

Okay, fine, I'll get behind this (metaphorical) kind of falling.

Camera tilts up from the increasingly verdant island (and aren't the blooming flowers a fine metaphor)...



Back on the 'ground', the Curious Cat reappears, and Ruby immediately confronts them. They're (the Cat) not very bothered. Weiss gets angry at them for pretending it hadn't heard of the fairy tale when in fact Jaune had already told them, to which they (the Cat) just insult Jaune, which isn't going to go well for anyone.

Ruby very directly asks what happened to Alyx and Lewis at the tree. The Cat says they (the Cat) don't know, and that Alyx tricked them (the Cat) by not taking them with, then segues into accusing Team RW+J of seeing them (the Cat) as a mere knowledge source just like they saw Team RWBY. (Goodness me it's getting confusing trying to pronoun a character of questionable gender interacting with a group.) They (the Cat) ignore Ruby pleading that they (Team RWBY+J) just want to go home, stalking off while declaring that they've (the Cat) "learned their lesson" about trusting Remnantfolk. Right. Sure. Every possible level of "Sure /s".

The Cat disappears, and so does the punderstorm, leaving Team RW+J+L (and Juniper, who was also there the whole time, they just didn't say much) on the road again. Ruby looks around and immediately notices Blake and Yang, who are still busy and have not the slightest bit noticed the change in scenery. Little's noticing gasp draws Bumblebee out of it:
Yang: "Did we miss anything?"

Jaune: "Feels like I've been waiting forever for that."
I bet the writers felt real clever about that line.



It is night, but Team RWBY+JJ+L have made it to Jaune's village. It is unclear how Ruby or Weiss feel about Bumblebee, at least for the moment. A distraction arrives for Ruby in the form of Jaune, carrying a box containing something he safekept for her.

It's Crescent Rose. Now Team RWBY really is complete again.

Ruby barely even looks buoyed in spirit. That's not good.

As Jaune leaves, Ruby asks him what happened to Lewis, to which Jaune says:
"I think Alyx traded him to the tree, in order to leave. And then she wrote him out of the story."
The last visual of the Chapter is Ruby closing the box. She hasn't even taken Crescent Rose out. I'm seeing a trajectory here and I do not like it one little bit.

To be very clear: I think Ruby has entered what's effectively suicidal ideation. She's heard that she couldn't save Atlas, Creation, or even Penny; she's been through the ordeal with the Herbalist where a hallucination of her past self has encouraged her to carry the entire world on her shoulders; the conversation with the Blacksmith, where she was encouraged to "set [her] burden down", is still ringing in her ears. Now she's been briefed about Ascension - the thing that it turns out the Cat was guiding them all towards the entire time - and on Jaune's theory that Alyx sold out Lewis to escape the Ever After. I believe - and holy cow do I hope I'm wrong - that Ruby has decided to trade her life for the others' escape. That this would entail Ruby's death, of personality even if not of body, does not seem like it will stop her anymore. (shivers)

...Why is it that everything always goes to hell right after I type "(raucous cheering from the comments section)"?



Next time: Other things that have been trying to happen for a while.
 
Weiss just, well, just imagine the spluttering if V1-2 Weiss and Jaune saw that ten-second sequence.

Weiss likes 'mature' men confirmed. And briefly lost control of her hormones in front of the worst people possible. Yang's never gonna let her live that down.

Yang still takes the wrong lesson initially:

I think it's less taking the wrong lesson, and more being nervous about putting some of her feelings into words.

Yang takes a deep breath, and says it. Blake was only waiting for that cue to also say it.

A common reading of this scene is that Blake didn't want to say it first and make Yang feel like she HAD to say it in response. Especially since a part of Yang might not have believed it's possible. The look on her face when Blake says it, there's surprise there.

Camera tilts up from the increasingly verdant island (and aren't the blooming flowers a fine metaphor)...

Lillies and Belladonna.

accusing Team RW+J of seeing them (the Cat) as a mere knowledge source just like they saw Team RWBY. (Goodness me it's getting confusing trying to pronoun a character of questionable gender interacting with a group.) They (the Cat) ignore Ruby pleading that they (Team RWBY+J) just want to go home, stalking off while declaring that they've (the Cat) "learned their lesson" about trusting Remnantfolk. Right. Sure. Every possible level of "Sure /s".

The phrasing here is VERY much the cat accusing Ruby of falsehoods, despite the team being open with them, while they were keeping secrets up to and including Jaunes existence. This is the point my suspicions about the glowing fuzzball hit high gear.

I bet the writers felt real clever about that line.

Don't forget Jaune is voiced by one of the original writers. Meta humor too :p

To be very clear: I think Ruby has entered what's effectively suicidal ideation. She's heard that she couldn't save Atlas, Creation, or even Penny; she's been through the ordeal with the Herbalist where a hallucination of her past self has encouraged her to carry the entire world on her shoulders; the conversation with the Blacksmith, where she was encouraged to "set [her] burden down", is still ringing in her ears. Now she's been briefed about Ascension - the thing that it turns out the Cat was guiding them all towards the entire time - and on Jaune's theory that Alyx sold out Lewis to escape the Ever After. I believe - and holy cow do I hope I'm wrong - that Ruby has decided to trade her life for the others' escape. That this would entail Ruby's death, of personality even if not of body, does not seem like it will stop her anymore.

On top of that, at least a part of her believes that Atlas went so wrong because of the decisions she made, and not enemy action. That' they're in the Ever After because she wasn't good enough. It's heartbreaking to see her reach this point.

But now that you''ve mentioned it, one thing to consider, what 'burden' was the blacksmith actually referring to? And what does Ruby think she meant?
 
I think it's less taking the wrong lesson, and more [Yang] being nervous about putting some of her feelings into words.
A common reading of this scene is that Blake didn't want to say it first and make Yang feel like she HAD to say it in response. Especially since a part of Yang might not have believed it's possible. The look on her face when Blake says it, there's surprise there.
If that's the case, I applaud Blake's emotional intelligence in navigating that.

The phrasing here is VERY much the cat accusing Ruby of falsehoods, despite the team being open with them, while they were keeping secrets up to and including Jaunes existence. This is the point my suspicions about the glowing fuzzball hit high gear.
Actual what-the-word-means gaslighting. Incredible. Barely anybody knows that any more.

Don't forget Jaune is voiced by one of the original writers. Meta humor too :p
So what you're telling me is that a writer continued to feel real clever about that line even as he voiced it?

But now that you''ve mentioned it, one thing to consider, what 'burden' was the blacksmith actually referring to? And what does Ruby think she meant?
Ruby, I'm fairly sure, thinks the burden is 'being Ruby', what with the implications of weapons symbolising souls that can be character-selected. As for what the Blacksmith actually meant, I don't know yet, the Socratic method was never really my thing.

(thirty seconds later) I'm an idiot. The Blacksmith is using "burden" to refer to Ruby's overflowing mixed bag of feelings of inadequacy and suchlike.

Because the show's writers are sadistic monsters, and we who watch it love to suffer ^.^;
Ow, right in the I-clearly-resemble-that.

The Cat is Enby, btw
Good to know. And if you're saying it because I used a binary pronoun somewhere: Darnit, where, I thought I got them all.
 
(thirty seconds later) I'm an idiot. The Blacksmith is using "burden" to refer to Ruby's overflowing mixed bag of feelings of inadequacy and suchlike.

And thus, we want to hug Ruby again. Speaking of, I missed this earlier...

We are spared the full exposition, instead fading to another scene after it's complete.

On later viewings, I realized this is likely the point Ruby learnt the exact details of how Penny died (given the timing of her fainting in ep 1). Which clearly did not help with her mental stability.

Good to know. And if you're saying it because I used a binary pronoun somewhere: Darnit, where, I thought I got them all.

Speaking as someone who's been all over the gender spectrum in search of their identity and pronouns, the fact you're trying, even with fictional characters, means a lot to me.
 
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Good to know. And if you're saying it because I used a binary pronoun somewhere: Darnit, where, I thought I got them all.
Nah, I said it because of this


Ruby very directly asks what happened to Alyx and Lewis at the tree. The Cat says they (the Cat) don't know, and that Alyx tricked them (the Cat) by not taking them with, then segues into accusing Team RW+J of seeing them (the Cat) as a mere knowledge source just like they saw Team RWBY. (Goodness me it's getting confusing trying to pronoun a character of questionable gender interacting with a group.) They (the Cat) ignore Ruby pleading that they (Team RWBY+J) just want to go home, stalking off while declaring that they've (the Cat) "learned their lesson" about trusting Remnantfolk. Right. Sure. Every possible level of "Sure /s".

It made me think you weren't sure what gender the Cat was yet, so I was trying to be helpful
 
Ah yes, the culmination of ten years worth of slow burn romantic build up, I love to see it! Legitimately one of it not the most romantic thing I've ever born witness too and Worthy is such a beautiful song.

I agree with others that Yang figured it out but was nervous and Blake was being gentle by letting Yang set the pace, especially given how quickly she jumped on the chance to say "I love you" back.

Also gosh, the lengths the Ever After went through to get them to confess, the place is a shipper after my own heart :3c

Also yeah Ruby really is going through it and given what we saw earlier with her past self making t clear Ruby feels everything is on her, its clear why she internalizes all her anger and grief.

I think the Yang's effort was well intended, but so far every time they've tried to reach out to Ruby she's turned them down or something has come up, I figure her goal was to convey how close Ruby's thinking was to crossing a line into harmful ideals as Ironwood's did. Less, "You are bad for thinking this" and more, "Hey, keep it mind what that attitude can lead to." Its not ideal but nothing about their situation is ideal.

Funnily I was still... Not on the Cats side, but wondering if this was a reflection of they're fae thinking, especially as Jaune's not exactly coming off super 'together' and given how much CRWBY love their unreliable narrators.
 
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