IWIW RWBY

Ah yes. This chapter also has plenty of Polite Discussion. Lot of people think RWBY shouldn't have beaten the AOs so "easily" and the three way fight "makes no sense and is stupid because Qrow shouldn't have teamed with Tyrian!"
I do love Elm's "This may have been a bad idea..." look when BY take out Vine.
 
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Clover being sent a Wanted poster: Teams RWBY and ALPN, not to mention Qrow, are now to be arrested on sight.

Seriously, did Ironwood have that wanted poster ready to go? Fucking hell James, what is with your priorities.

... Actually, that's fair. He needs to remove Qrow and Nora in particular. She's gonna use his head for a croquet ball after this.

Robyn recovers and helps, disapproving of any regrets.

Let's face it, at this point for her, it's Atlas being Atlas again. She's probably wondering why she even gave Ironwood another chance.

Winter tells her that "The general is making hard choices so that we don't have to."

And it's pretty clear that Winter is telling herself that more than Penny, at least to me. She's trying to convince herself that if she just keeps being a loyal cog in the machine, it'll all work out.

Vine insists they not "make this difficult"

Vine is very much a 'pretends to be logical' sort, even while his actions are anything but. All this, for instance, is just children being foolish.

Harriet brushes him off and deploys the 'look what they made us do' defence, which is legally valid under the aegis of 'resisting arrest', but not the slightest bit morally valid in context.

"They made us abandon a city full of civilians to die while we flee to space and overthrow our government!"
"Wait what?"
"STOP RESISTING!"

Harriet: "You think you're going to stop us. We're the best Huntsmen in Atlas."

Well, the best who are loyal little cogs in a machine, as long as they have a conductor (Clover) to tell them what to do. Remove the conductor...

Oh god, I love what comes next. This is my favorite group fight in the show.

Ruby Semblance-rams her way out the door. I wasn't expecting that - I thought she'd Semblance-ram Harriet. Silly me, I guess. I think Harriet has gone out the door after her.

This right here? This is where the team won the fight. If Harriet thought for even a second (I know, crazy, but still), she'd recognize that her speed let's her reinforce multiple teammates as rapidly as possible despite RWBYs best efforts. Instead, Ruby suckered her into spending the entire fight being useless AT BEST.

"I had you kids pegged right from the start." I'd like to know what Harriet thinks she knows.

She knows nothing. Probably assumes that, as freelance Huntresses, they were always inferior to the amazing Atlas Military, who are all loyal soldiers ready to run away on their generals command! I know what I said.

Vine's offer of lenience if they surrender is undermined by Elm, who is really mad at Team RWBY's "betray[al]".

The betrayal of being more loyal to the people of the Kingdom of Atlas than its sworn defenders. And three of them aren't even from the kingdom :p

Elm is moved to even more anger by Yang accusing her of "just following orders".

Guess that particular insult exists in that universe too.

Clover appears from seemingly nowhere and uses Robyn's health as a hostage to coerce Qrow's surrender.

Because Clover, in the end, is a Fucking Cop.

Tyrian awakens inside an unknown half of wreckage, and sprains his way out of the rest of his bindings.

Ugh, the face in that scene did not need to be animated that well...

How is he fighting a guy with a gunscythe to a standstill, anyway? Clearly he's skilled.

Also, Qrows likely not going for killing blows.

After a few moments, Clover displays an absolutely stunning lack of situational awareness (intellectual variety) by deciding he'll make it a three-way battle, instead of even pretending to cooperate with Qrow against Tyrian. I knew I hated the Ace Ops.

Because Ironwood said to arrest Qrow, so 'logically', he should try to leave Qrow, the man who he knows won't try to kill him, exposed to Tyrian, the man who will happily murder Qrow and then Clover. You have a FISHING ROD Clover, Qrows the only one here with a weapon to put Tyrian down!

It appears that Qrow is at least pretending to cooperate with Tyrian against Clover.

Yeah, it quickly becomes clear Qrow will happily take a chance to strike at Tyrian, but like it or not, he can't do that properly because Clover is a fucking idiot. But hey, at least Tyrians enjoying himself. We wish he wasn't.

I don't even have words for this, save for 'dammit Clover, prioritise better'.

I said 'Clover you FUCKING IDIOT' a lot when first watching this ep.

Ruby and Weiss are now fighting Harriet and Marrow.

Fun bit here that shows off each teams understanding of teamwork. When Marrow gets an opening and sends the gunerang at Weiss, Ruby pops in to intercept it, showing that while there were smaller fights, the team was watching each others backs. Harriet uses the chance to hurl abuse at Marrow and tell you exactly what kind of cop she was when down in Mantle.

Yang intercepts him on the way down, steals the bolas from his belt, ties him up with them, and spikes him into the main floor hard enough to crack the floor and break his Aura.

The look on his face in the slow-motion shot is fantastic. "The risk I took was calculated, but man am I bad at math."

(not to mention Elm, who of course saw it all)

Elms face is a delight there. "Ohhhh shit. Right. These girls fought their way across several continents and through a terrorist organisation or two. Fuuuuck."

Yang shatters the floor around Elm.

A reminder that our girl is no bimbo, despite what some say. I suspect she figured that out as far back as the mines. Which, actually, is another detail that seperates the teams, I suspect. The Ace Ops, during all the time that passed during V7s montages, clearly treated RWBY like students. Not equals, and certainly not a threat. RWBY was introduced to the Ace Ops via them ambushing them, establishing themselves as a possible threat themselves, and then there's the fact they answered to Ironwood, a man that several of the team had... concerns about. I can't help put suspect parts of this fight might have been discussed in private...

as an example, here's Weiss putting up an ice wall, which Harriet runs into at speed,

*BONK. Hollow object echo*

HA HA. GET FUCKED HARRIET.

Fun note, Harriets angry face was the teaser image for this ep posted the day before. No one was surprised by a still image of an insanely furious Harriet.

It's Maria and Pietro.

And if Ironwood thinks he can lock Pietro out of the scroll network, he's even more delusional than even I expect at this point :p

Oscar shouting "NO!" from around a corner before emerging (Knowledge-less) from around that same corner to punch himself in the face and halfway down the hallway.

Fun note on animation misteps. That corridor was supposed to be non-existent. Oscar round the corner and punches Neo instantly before she can react. The fact there was accidentally a corridor Oscar had to sprint down led to my mental headcanon that Neo just has no idea how to fight people smaller than her :p

Winter has come just far enough around to acknowledge that her (Winter's) feelings have some validity.

Yeah, Winter's got a brain under the years of trained loyalty, and you can only ignore alarm bells for so long.

she gloats in advance

She hasn't been able to gloat at her enemies for two volumes. Girl was going through withdrawals!

Tyrian, who is actively channeling Aura to his hands - I don't know what that means, but it can't be good.

It's his sembleance. We saw it with his attack on Fiona at the election massacre. He can cut right through aura.

They have an anguished heart-to-heart. They've forgotten about Tyrian's ability to escape bindings. Clover is messily stabbed in the back (and out the front) by Tyrian with Qrow's weapon. Death is nearly instant.

Nearly... he still gets time for last words.

...So. This brings us to the marketing issue I mentioned, and how it impacted fandom debates during this time. Two guys, friendly towards each other in an LGBT friendly show? The shipping was immediate. Especuially given the matching sembleances, Qrow recovering from the bottle, the perfect fandom ship name of Fair Game, and so on. RT's marketing saw this, and went all in. There was a lot of Fair Game related merchandise at this point. Which lead to a lot of people thinking that maybe, Clover might pleasantly surprise us. Hell, I was one of those people. I didn't ship them, but I thought that just maybe the frienship would have some positive influence. Instead, well.

The aftermath of this scene was... Messy. Queerbaiting was a term thrown around a lot, and unlike the other RWBY related use of the word, there was some validity to it. A company hinting at a possible queer relationship to lure fans in while having no intention of following though is pretty much the dictionary definaition of the term. The marketing department issued an apology, but it was half-hearted and clumsy. With a lot of 'we didn't know what the story had planned.' Former CRWBY staff have called bullshit on that, and stated they provided warnings because they knew what the company was about to step in. There were a LOT of personal attacks aimed at members of CRWBY over this, because people.
 
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The aftermath of this scene was... Messy. Queerbaiting was a term thrown around a lot, and unlike the other RWBY related use of the word, there was some validity to it. A company hinting at a possible queer relationship to lure fans in while having no intention of following though is pretty much the dictionary definaition of the term. The marketing department issued an apology, but it was half-hearted and clumsy. With a lot of 'we didn't know what the story had planned.' Former CRWBY staff have called bullshit on that, and stated they provided warnings because they knew what the company was about to step in. There were a LOT of personal attacks aimed at members of CRWBY over this, because people.

For some additional context we didn't bring up before; this also wasn't the first time Rooster Teeth had been accused of queerbaiting. Back in volume five they said they were going to include a homosexual couple in rwby which made quite a lot of noise. That couple ended up being a pair of nameless women holding hands in that still shot of Mistral that you had to be looking for in order to find.
 
For some additional context we didn't bring up before; this also wasn't the first time Rooster Teeth had been accused of queerbaiting. Back in volume five they said they were going to include a homosexual couple in rwby which made quite a lot of noise. That couple ended up being a pair of nameless women holding hands in that still shot of Mistral that you had to be looking for in order to find.

Huh, I missed that particular drama actually. Reminds me of a few of Disney's 'first actual gay character' announcements over the years though.
 
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Lot of people think [...] the three way fight "makes no sense and is stupid because Qrow shouldn't have teamed with Tyrian!"
Because Ironwood said to arrest Qrow, so 'logically', he should try to leave Qrow, the man who he knows won't try to kill him, exposed to Tyrian, the man who will happily murder Qrow and then Clover. You have a FISHING ROD Clover, Qrows the only one here with a weapon to put Tyrian down!

Yeah, it quickly becomes clear Qrow will happily take a chance to strike at Tyrian, but like it or not, he can't do that properly because Clover is a fucking idiot. But hey, at least Tyrians enjoying himself. We wish he wasn't.
Qrow probably figured that seeing as Tyrian was willing to not make this a chaotic three-way fight, he (Qrow) wasn't going to look that gift horse in the mouth yet; focus on collectively knocking Clover out of the fight, then suddenly but inevitably betray Tyrian. And it would have worked - Tyrian was all tied up in fishing line and everything - if it weren't for Qrow skipping the 'betray Tyrian' step to go direct to the 'tell Clover he's an idiot' step, giving Tyrian first shot at the sudden but inevitable betrayal.

I do love Elm's "This may have been a bad idea..." look when BY take out Vine.
Elms face is a delight there. "Ohhhh shit. Right. These girls fought their way across several continents and through a terrorist organisation or two. Fuuuuck."
Always awkward when you're no longer enough police to keep doing the brutality.

Well, the best who are loyal little cogs in a machine, as long as they have a conductor (Clover) to tell them what to do. Remove the conductor...

Oh god, I love what comes next. This is my favorite group fight in the show.
Turns out the real reason the Ace Ops are an oversized team is that they need a numerical advantage to win team fights! (not sure how much I'm joking)

This right here? This is where the team won the fight. If Harriet thought for even a second (I know, crazy, but still), she'd recognize that her speed let's her reinforce multiple teammates as rapidly as possible despite RWBYs best efforts. Instead, Ruby suckered her into spending the entire fight being useless AT BEST.
Harriet is not a team leader and nobody (including her) has made any effort to cross-train her in it. I have no doubt that if this was a 3v3, the subset of Team RWBY would do a much better job at being theoretically leaderless.

Ugh, the face in that scene did not need to be animated that well...
But hey, at least Tyrians enjoying himself. We wish he wasn't.
Every Tyrian shot in two nutshells.

Fun bit here that shows off each teams understanding of teamwork. When Marrow gets an opening and sends the gunerang at Weiss, Ruby pops in to intercept it, showing that while there were smaller fights, the team was watching each others backs. Harriet uses the chance to hurl abuse at Marrow and tell you exactly what kind of cop she was when down in Mantle.
Team cohesion, do you speak it?! Turns out those Academies aren't just monuments to last century's architecture budgets.

Fun note on animation misteps. That corridor was supposed to be non-existent. Oscar round the corner and punches Neo instantly before she can react. The fact there was accidentally a corridor Oscar had to sprint down led to my mental headcanon that Neo just has no idea how to fight people smaller than her :p
To be fair, how often is Neo going to fight people smaller than her :p

...So. This brings us to the marketing issue I mentioned, and how it impacted fandom debates during this time. Two guys, friendly towards each other in an LGBT friendly show? The shipping was immediate. Especuially given the matching sembleances, Qrow recovering from the bottle, the perfect fandom ship name of Fair Game, and so on. RT's marketing saw this, and went all in. There was a lot of Fair Game related merchandise at this point. Which lead to a lot of people thinking that maybe, Clover might pleasantly surprise us. Hell, I was one of those people. I didn't ship them, but I thought that just maybe the frienship would have some positive influence. Instead, well.

The aftermath of this scene was... Messy. Queerbaiting was a term thrown around a lot, and unlike the other RWBY related use of the word, there was some validity to it. A company hinting at a possible queer relationship to lure fans in while having no intention of following though is pretty much the dictionary definaition of the term. The marketing department issued an apology, but it was half-hearted and clumsy. With a lot of 'we didn't know what the story had planned.' Former CRWBY staff have called bullshit on that, and stated they provided warnings because they knew what the company was about to step in. There were a LOT of personal attacks aimed at members of CRWBY over this, because people.
For some additional context we didn't bring up before; this also wasn't the first time Rooster Teeth had been accused of queerbaiting. Back in volume five they said they were going to include a homosexual couple in rwby which made quite a lot of noise. That couple ended up being a pair of nameless women holding hands in that still shot of Mistral that you had to be looking for in order to find.
Huh, I missed that particular drama actually. Reminds me of a few of Disney's 'first actual gay character' announcements over the years though.
I am neither queer nor any good at analysis, making me not the slightest bit qualified to comment on any of that using words, so instead I'll just shake my head sadly.

The more I learn about Rooster Teeth, the more of a bin fire it seemed. Of course, I've got no baseline for the bin-fire quotient of a company of that size, so I could be wrong (my natural state).

And honestly the friendship did have some positive influence. But only on Qrow, and who knows how much of it will persist.

(People. People are the worst.)
 
The more I learn about Rooster Teeth, the more of a bin fire it seemed.

It started as five college age dudes making video in a basement, and while in some ways, it handled growing into something more, it didn't shed all the bad habits. But at the same time, we must admit that not all the bad habits came from there. Animation, video games, movies and live action... all those industries are dumpster fires from the top to bottom, be it a small company or something like Disney or Warner Bros. Bigotry, bullying, harassment and exploitation, there's horror stories about them all. It's just that RT banked on its parasocial relationship with fans and tried to hold on to it's 'just some guys' image, so we tend to remember it a bit more than Disney's latest horror.
 
V07C13 The Enemy of Trust

V07C13 The Enemy of Trust


Clover becomes the fourth character to appear in a title sequence after his (confirmed) death. (The prior three were Fennec Albain, Vernal, and Adam. Watts doesn't count because we haven't seen hide nor hair of him after that intra-Chapter cliffhanger - there hasn't even been dialogue to tell us his fate, unlike Fennec.)

Neo does Neo things, effortlessly dodging and redirecting attacks from every member of Team ALPN. There is a tense moment as she and Oscar both try to snatch the loose Knowledge, but Oscar grabs it again, and then ALPN make a tandem attack that goes better in that it forces Neo to leave by shatterclone. Sweeping the area for her will have to wait because a guard has found them, and you may remember that they all have arrest warrants on their heads. Oscar, who has already been through a small war, looks particularly tired as they flee from the guard.



Cinder does Cinder things, holding her own against Penny (uncharacteristically angry), then Winter (remember the bird swarm? here it is again!), then Penny, then both. Somewhere in there she has dialogue implying she has a grudge against "Atlas elites". Eventually she gets fed up with both of them keeping her out of the ward and uses Fire Maiden rocket powers to take them on a ride through the ward, through the far wall, and out into the open air of Atlas.

Winter is thrown away into the night. Cinder tries the same move on Penny, but Penny has rocket boots so it's less effective. Cinder shouts her displeasure at "some toy" (mech-racism alert!) before Winter, who summoned a spectral mount somewhere and somehow, hits her with a nice big chunk of ice. Penny and Winter combine to make tandem attacks against Cinder, who throws fireballs back. This must be an interesting sight for anyone who looks up.

Cinder defeats another aerial charge by Winter by dodging at the last minute and killing the summon on the way by. Winter goes hurtling into the night again, and Cinder meets her with an Aura-breaking fireball before zipping off to presumably where they just came from. Penny, given this sadistic choice, chooses to save Winter first. That sounds like Penny.
"What are you doing?! My life doesn't matter!"

"I disagree."
Oh gods Winter.



Oscar, already tired, is falling behind Team ALN as they try to escape the long arm of the law. ALN stop in an intersection as they see more guards down one path, giving Oscar just enough time to catch up to them, then double back, which is just a bit cruel.

Not long afterwards Oscar falls far enough behind that he loses sight of them. He still has Knowledge. It might have been a good idea to pass it to one of the fresher folks, but it's a bit late now.

Nora yanks him into an alcove just in time to avoid the guard chase. Spoiler alert, it's not Nora, it's Neo. Great work folks, I don't see this going well. Yep, Neo nicks Knowledge and books it; Oscar is powerless to chase.

Jaune realises they've lost Oscar and backtracks. Surprise Nora Neo, giving away her identity by using her weapon, breaks past him easily. Neo's impersonation pick is brilliant because it makes Ren, the next line of defence, hesitate at the key moment and pull his melee strike. Jaune recovers, goes past Ren, and meets an Atlas gun line, the back officer of whom is probably actually Neo. He orders Team ALN to fall back; they are now accompanied by Nora, hopefully the real one. Ren is now entering emotional breakdown. Yep, that officer was Neo and she's gotten away clean. Great. Just great. /s



Cinder pries open Fria's pod, wakes her up, and starts gloating - for fairly good reasons given the Maiden succession rules. This is all seeming horribly familiar.

Fria may be old and deprived of human contact, but she's no fool; as soon as she sees Cinder's Grimm arm, she concludes - correctly - that this is not her designated successor, or even a worthy successor. Cinder, who expected this part of the job to be a trivial assassination, is somewhat unprepared to fight a Winter Maiden. Unfortunately, Cinder only has to force a battle of attrition, because Fria's not going to be able to sustain this for long.

Winter and Penny return just as Fria blows half the roof off. Winter states that they have to intervene, but cannot do so herself - the winter vortex emanating from the hole in the roof is far too cold for her to approach (no Aura left, remember). Penny, who has a significantly wider temperature tolerance, enters without issue, to Winter's dismay. Don't ask me why she's dismayed, but I'm pretty sure she is.



Oscar apologises, which Jaune rejects as unnecessary. Ren (in great emotional distress over his failure to stop Neo) thinks differently, doubting his entire career path, regardless of what Nora or Jaune might say about it.

At this point Pietro manages to unlock everybody's Scrolls. Maria, Pietro, and now Blake and Yang have managed to fight their way to an aircraft and get on board. Nora reports that Team ALPN are holed up in Atlas Academy's (main) training room, at which point the guards find them and start asking questions written on bullets. Team ALN take cover behind Jaune's shield - a questionable manoeuvre, ceding the entire initiative to the guards who can freely flank them - and are distressed to discover Oscar has decided to go do his own thing out of some sense of ...I don't even know what sense, but he's feeling it and nobody else is.



Penny pries her way into the centre of the winter vortex and finds Fria hovering about a metre and a half up. Apparently Cinder just can't get in here at all. The question is what impact this will have on the Maiden succession. Penny, being Penny (a cinnamon roll literally too good for this world), asks if Fria is okay. "I had a job to do," says Fria, which is about the same thing she told Cinder before things got real.
"I was supposed to protect the power of the maiden, until I was ready. I worry I may have lost track of time. But you can tell James that I'm ready, now."

"Ma'am, if you do that-"

"I'll be gone. ...I know I have a hard time remembering; but I remember that."
Fria starts making pained noises and falls from the air, Penny catching her on the way down. I know I said Penny pried her way into the vortex, but as the vortex dissipates I see Cinder will have to pry more literally - the vortex has left a solid ice wall around its outer radius, through which only the outlines of bright things (like one of the aura transfer pods) are visible.
"What's your name?"

"...It's Penny, ma'am."

"Penny. ...Are you the one?"
This has Implications - Fria is pretty sure she's now dying and therefore aura transfer will not be necessary.

Penny looks up. The vortex has frozen a new roof as well, which somewhat explains Winter's continued non-presence. Penny is going to have to answer on her own. She struggles.



Ironwood is at the Vault of Creation awaiting the arrival of the Winter Maiden. When the lift signals its imminent arrival again, he starts addressing Winter (Schnee), before turning around to see only Oscar, who is using his cane for support.
"And whom do I have the pleasure of speaking with?"

"Still just me."

"It was smart of you not to bring the lamp down here. I wouldn't trust me either, right now."
So is this Ironwood starting to climb out of his psychosis, or is the psychosis just comfortable with self-deprecating humour? Oscar starts what looks an awful lot like an Ozpin speech, urging Ironwood to rescind the arrest orders and bring his allies back into the planning loop. Oscar carefully does not mention the real reason he didn't bring Knowledge.

Ironwood asks Oscar if he's here for a fight, perhaps because of the deployed cane. Oscar says no, it's a comfort item because of bleedthrough from Ozmas past. (During this, "Oz" is mistitled as "us".) He stows it anyway. Ironwood takes offence to Oscar insinuating that Ironwood is afraid.

Yep, still psychosis.

Ironwood signals that he will go full authoritarian for the sake of what he perceives to be keeping (some) people safe. To which Oscar accuses him of being "as dangerous as She is, James". Ouch. Those are some words that can't be taken back. In other things that can't be taken back,
"'James' is what my friends call me. To you, it's 'General'."
And shoots Oscar, breaking his Aura and knocking him back off the side of the bridge to the Vault proper. Oh dear. I'd say we'll see how it goes with the next Ozma, except people have survived being attacked and thrown off Vault bridges (1/1: Cinder in V05C13), but on the other hand Oscar's no Maiden, so who can be sure.



Penny has still not come up with an answer for Fria by the time Cinder bursts in through the ice wall. "She's mine!" roars Cinder, and grabs with her Grimm arm, which disintegrates after crossing half the distance and leaves Cinder in great pain. Winter cut it off. Go Winter!

Winter is distressed to see Fria in bad condition under Penny's care, but doesn't do anything about it before Cinder regrows the Grimm arm and charges for Winter (Schnee, to be clear). Winter has no Aura, and soon starts accumulating wounds.

Fria closes her eyes and Aura flows from her to Penny-

Now back to Oscar, who falls. This isn't nearly as funny as Cinder falling. The cane, loose from his belt, falls at the exact same pace. Some way down, as Oscar threatens to fall unconscious, Ozpin decides he's not going through this again this soon and makes his mental presence known again. Oscar reaches for the cane, just far enough away to make that difficult.

Now back to the ward. Winter has been thrown across the room by Cinder. As Winter groans and writhes in pain, Cinder wanders over to kill her, but stops halfway as she (Cinder) sees an inexplicable snowflake. There are more as she turns.

Now back to Oscar, who grabs the cane and deploys it.

Now back to the ward. The million-Lien question is 'is Penny Polendina a valid target for the Winter Maidenship'. The answer is yes. Apropos of a mechanical Maiden, some music:


Now back to Oscar, who activates some emergency mode of the cane, function yet unknown.

Now back to the ward, where Cinder is incandescent with rage. It is to this scene - Winter prone and wounded also - that Ruby and Weiss arrive, to Weiss' obvious distress.

Now back to Oscar. The cane starts glowing from the top of its haft.

Now back to the ward. Cinder pulls out enough fire to kill everyone in sight, or at least Winter. Cinder gets hit with silver eyes again before she can actually burn anyone. Does it hurt any less this time? I hope not.

Now back to Oscar, who is finally approaching the floor of this shaft he's been falling down (as the score crescendos). He roars and swings the cane in some kind of pattern. It is unclear exactly what happens in a burst of green light and blast sound as he reaches the floor, but I only give it at most 50% that he went splat.



Cut through black, during which Ozpin narrates to us that every living thing feels fear.

Oscar falls through a pink-tinged sky. Is this a metaphor for being reincarnated?

Ruby slumps to her knees. Forensic evidence indicates Cinder blasted off through Winter's hole in the ice roof to avoid further obliteration. Weiss goes to check on Winter. Winter is bruised and battered worse than Oscar was, but conscious, and quite capable of asking Weiss for herself "What did you do?!"

And here come the lyrics.

It is apparent to all who cared to look at Penny's flaming eyes that she is the Winter Maiden. (Ozpin narrates, over the lyrics, that people keep underestimating fear despite how common it is.) I'm not sure whether she (Penny) or Fria was the intended target of Ruby's look, but regardless Penny now has a spare moment to give Fria's corpse the respect it deserves.

As Fria told Penny she'd be gone, so Penny tells the others that Fria is gone. Winter disagrees - "She's a part of you now.". You can tell Winter's in a bad state because she's lost her hair tie.

Ozpin narrates a list of things that are feared:
  • "Growing close to someone", as Qrow passively surrenders to the soldiers checking on the crash site. "Subsequent[ly]... loss", as they find Robyn as she awakens.
  • "Failure", as Cinder hovers on Maiden rockets well outside Atlas and screams. Shut up Cinder. Lose your Clover and then we'll talk.
  • No narration as Team ALN board the escape craft that Maria found for them. Yang asks about Oscar and Knowledge, to which ALN can't answer.
And fear, says Ozpin, is amplified by people depending on you. Qrow isn't in any state to say anything either - he can only clutch at Clover's emblem, recovered from his body, as Robyn can only wordlessly try (futilely) to console him. As they fly towards Atlas proper, a storm moves in.

Ozpin tells us that we shouldn't worry about fear itself, but "who we become while in its clutches". Oscar stows the cane on his back again as he serenely continues falling. I think he fell past Atlas proper, which would mean that he's not in a metaphor for reincarnation (yet...), he 'just' teleported to somewhere outside, away, and above.

Meanwhile in the ward:
Winter: (still in no state for a fight) "I suggest you surrender... and comply with the General's orders."

Weiss: (brief conference with Ruby and Penny) "We can't do that."

Winter: "Then... I suggest you run."

Weiss: "No, you're hurt! I'm not going to leave you like this-"

Winter: "You're not leaving me! I'm giving you... a head start!"
Winter then calls for medevac and reinforcements. Weiss wrestles with the problem for a moment before Maria and company arrive out the hole in the outer wall (the first one Cinder made during the fight). Yang trails off in alarm as she sees the aftermath. Ozpin's narration asks (re "who we become while in [fear's] clutches"):
  • "Will you be proud of that person?" as Weiss somewhat reluctantly accompanies Ruby and Penny aboard.
  • "Will you forgive them?" as, aboard later, Ruby and Weiss reassure Penny about I'm not sure what. "Will you understand why they felt the need-" as Pietro looks on.
  • "-to do the things they did?" as Cinder lurks on a rooftop and scowls at the spire of Atlas Academy. But some things have unfortunately come up Cinder - Neo presents her Knowledge. "Will you even recognise them?" as Neo looks slightly miffed that Cinder doesn't recognise her contribution at all.
  • "Or will the person staring back at you be the very thing you should have feared from the start?" as Ironwood gets a text message from Winter that "It's gone". Ironwood's screaming leaves little doubt as to what "it" is (or to what point Ozpin is trying to make). Congratulations, General, your plan sabotaged itself.
  • "I suppose we all find out, sooner or later." as Watts turns out to be alive and languishing in a cell somewhere. He smirks as the storm approaches.
Overall, excellent Ozpin speech, 9/10.

Oscar is, once more, running out of room to fall. This time the cane doesn't help him, but he still roars and emits a blast noise and green light, which creates a shield that ensures that the sudden stop at the end leaves him recognisable, alive, and even undamaged (well, not any further damaged...).

Oscar asks Ozpin, rhetorically, if Ozpin saved him. "Actually, you saved us," says Ozpin. He tries to say something further but Oscar cuts him off and asks "how we save Atlas next".

The storm is really coming in fast. The gang (minus Oscar) overhear multiple Atlesian pilots on the radio wondering what the h*ck those hostiles are and what their sensors are playing at. The lightning (exclusively cloud-to-cloud) is red and silhouettes are visible in it. I'm guessing this is Salem's strike force.

If I extrapolate from what I think are Nevermores then that is a huge flying whale. Whales can't survive outside water - aside from the obvious breathing difficulties, they're too big to not collapse under their own weight, relying on their buoyancy in water to take up the slack - but try telling that to Salem, perched dramatically atop it.



As the credits music picks up very gently (not a reliable indicator of the style of the bulk of it), we see that supervising director Kerry Shawcross directed this last Chapter personally.

Apparently Vine's voice actor also voiced a pilot early on.

Yep, here's the electric guitar I was fully expecting.

Would you believe that this is a song about fear? Ozpin certainly would.

Honestly, it's a pretty good song about fear.

In the "Additional Security" section of the credits, where all the pets traditionally go, time has inevitably caught up with some - "Meatball", top of the right column, is marked with a dagger symbol which can only really mean that Meatball has died. Rest in peace Meatball.

We end with another in-memoriam notice to Monty Oum, dead for five years to the day as of the first airing of this episode. Rest in peace Monty, too.

For the first time, there is no post-credits scene.



Next time: Bad leadership, good leadership, somehow worse leadership.
 
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Time's Up
I ran out of time. The Rooster Teeth website, where I was watching, is now down. Crunchyroll has RWBY and Ice Queendom, but not for free users, meaning that I'll have to find a block of uninterrupted watching time for the premium trial week and/or shell out for premium. (Crunchyroll does not have V9 Beyond, meaning that I may well never be able to watch it.) Chibi is on YouTube. Somebody please tell me if they're about to take down their YouTube account(s).
 
I ran out of time. The Rooster Teeth website, where I was watching, is now down. Crunchyroll has RWBY and Ice Queendom, but not for free users, meaning that I'll have to find a block of uninterrupted watching time for the premium trial week and/or shell out for premium. (Crunchyroll does not have V9 Beyond, meaning that I may well never be able to watch it.) Chibi is on YouTube. Somebody please tell me if they're about to take down their YouTube account(s).

Word is that the youtube channels are staying up, last I heard. If I find Beyond and such posted somewhere, I'll let you know.

Neo does Neo things, effortlessly dodging and redirecting attacks from every member of Team ALPN.

But not as effortlessly as many expected. This is Neos first time against multiple opponents, and her first time against people that may have heard about how she fights, and here it becomes clear that a lot of her 'effortless' fighting isn't wildly superior skill, but good acting. Neo's a performer, using her acting skills to portray superior confidence and seemingly effortless evasion, even if inside she's sweating.

Sweeping the area for her will have to wait because a guard has found them, and you may remember that they all have arrest warrants on their heads.

I mean, it's not like the guards would be looking for Cinder, Neo, or any other of Salems agents that may have infiltrated the place. That would be crazy.

Penny has rocket boots so it's less effective.

Rocket Boots make everything better.


Schnee Sibling trauma, or Atlas Miltary machine indoctrination? Why not both?

Spoiler alert, it's not Nora, it's Neo. Great work folks, I don't see this going well. Yep, Neo nicks Knowledge and books it;

With a demonstration once again that Neo is like Tyrian in a way. She won't pass up the opportunity for attempted murder. She could have nicked the relic off his belt and vanished before he turned around, but murder!

Yep, that officer was Neo and she's gotten away clean. Great. Just great

Why didn't Neo become a random guard last ep instead of Oscar and just walk off instead of going right up to Arc and co? Well, Nora was right there, closing in with her guard down upon seeing 'oscar'...

Don't ask me why she's dismayed, but I'm pretty sure she is.

Winter cares. About Fria and Penny. She tries to convince herself otherwise, but we know better. The thought of both of them in danger and her stuck outside? It's not really a shock the mask slipped.

Ren (in great emotional distress over his failure to stop Neo) thinks differently, doubting his entire career path, regardless of what Nora or Jaune might say about it.

Also the fact the military have gone full dictatorship. I think he was REALLY counting on the adults having some more idea what to do than the team.

guards find them and start asking questions written on bullets.

'Arrest' warrant. Harriet would be proud.

Ironwood asks Oscar if he's here for a fight, perhaps because of the deployed cane. Oscar says no, it's a comfort item because of bleedthrough from Ozmas past. (During this, "Oz" is mistitled as "us".)

Please note that. Oscar puts his weapon away. A lot of Ironwood defenders like to claim that what happens next was 'only James being logical', because 'Ozpin was armed and clearly threatening him.' They really like denying Oscar his agency here... They also like to claim, much like with the office scene, that Ironwood is being 'calm and reasonable'.

When in fact, he's anything but. He's not just afraid. He's angry and in denial of that fear, and he turns that anger on people who point out there's no shame in that fear. He throws out claims like the deaths of everyone in mantle are just a 'philosophical issue' that doesn't matter in the grand scheme, but as he keeps ranting here, it becomes clear what so much of this is about. The real issue behind all his political scheming since his first appearance, his trust issues, all of it. He needs to be the hero. The one who is always right. And as he backs a teenage boy up against the ledge, that all spills out. He was the one making the right calls because he made them. They were necessary because he said so. And how dare people disagree with him.
This moment here is where the last of James Ironwoods better traits die, strangled by the fear and ego, leaving a man who will do anything to secure his power base against any perceived threat. Even murder a child who has done nothing to him but be kind and supportive, despite the existential terrors he's been forced to live with since Beacon fell.

It's a tragedy honestly. James Ironwood had the potential to be a better man. But his own worse instincts, the Atlas military machine, the fear of Salem, it burned that better man away.

which disintegrates after crossing half the distance and leaves Cinder in great pain. Winter cut it off. Go Winter!

Oh yeah, I forgot the grimm arm can't be protected by aura. Cinder really shouldn't have stuck it out where Winter could apply the lessons of the Ruby Rose School of Protecting People I Care about.

Fria closes her eyes and Aura flows from her to Penny-

This led to an interesting fan theory. Namely, that the Maidens don't need to wait for death to pass the powers on. It killed Fria here, but at this point it was the powers keeping her alive. If she could choose to pass them on directly like this, was she deliberately keeping them, out of a concern of the path James and Atlas were taking...?

Ozpin decides he's not going through this again this soon and makes his mental presence known again.

This, tied with his narration speech next, makes me think that Oscars words to Ironwood did reach someone, just not who he expected. That's why he permenantly came back this time, as opposed to helping out for a moment and retreating again. Oscar is good for the old soul

Now back to the ward. Winter has been thrown across the room by Cinder. As Winter groans and writhes in pain, Cinder wanders over to kill her, but stops halfway as she (Cinder) sees an inexplicable snowflake. There are more as she turns.

I love how this sequence was presented. Also, here we get confirmation that the color of eye flames aren't linked to the specific maiden, but the indivdual.

The million-Lien question is 'is Penny Polendina a valid target for the Winter Maidenship'. The answer is yes.

As anyone who'd dealt with Penny for more than five seconds would know

Less amusingly, some fans took issue with this. Not even because she's a robot. But because the aura used to ignite her soul came from a man. This just meant that all us trans women just adopted Penny even harder. She's OUR maiden!

Cinder pulls out enough fire to kill everyone in sight, or at least Winter. Cinder gets hit with silver eyes again before she can actually burn anyone. Does it hurt any less this time? I hope not.

The speed and ease with which the eyes come out this time, when she struggled and failed with the mammoth demonstrate once again how closely the need to protect is part of the power. Penny and Winter were in immediate danger, her subconcious took charge and the eyes OBEYED.
quite capable of asking Weiss for herself "What did you do?!"

"Objected to Ironwood overthrowing the last of the civilian control over him and abandoning the people of mantle to death by cold and grimm."
"... Oh."

You can tell Winter's in a bad state because she's lost her hair tie.

She looks better with her hair down, but the rest of her is pretty battered...

he 'just' teleported to somewhere outside, away, and above.

I don't think it was teleporting. I think he made a hole in the bottom of the island and kept falling, using the time outside to slow himself properly.

Ozpin tells us that we shouldn't worry about fear itself, but "who we become while in its clutches".

Which Oz has a lot of experience fighting against and overcoming. And, as with the last three volumes, not always succeeding. Fear of being betrayed again led him to keeping secrets he shouldn't have. Fear of the heroes lack of forgiveness and fear he'd make things worse (Along with a healthy dose of self-loathing) led to him retreating into Oscars mind. But here, now, even for a little while, he's overcome that fear.

Winter then calls for medevac and reinforcements.

Winter trying desperately to avoid making a choice here. But at the same time really, she made one, even if she won't admit it to herself. Even if she's in no state to eitrher stop the heroes or go with them at this point, choosing to outright let them go...

Needless to say there was a LOT of speculation about Winters V8 arc after this episode. She was accepted by a lot of the FNDM as the most conflicted character left on Atlas' side in the three way brawl that's coming, followed only by MAYBE Marrow. There were a lot more doubts about if his conflict would become an issue, given how hard he fell in line last ep.

Neo looks slightly miffed that Cinder doesn't recognise her contribution at all.

Well yeah Neo. You're replacement Emerald, and she never acknowledged Emeralds contributions.

Which is an interesting point. Neo sees this as a partnership. But I'm not sure Cinder does.

"Or will the person staring back at you be the very thing you should have feared from the start?" as Ironwood gets a text message from Winter that "It's gone". Ironwood's screaming leaves little doubt as to what "it" is (or to what point Ozpin is trying to make). Congratulations, General, your plan sabotaged itself.


View: https://youtu.be/Yk7M2jGdnxU

Oscar cuts him off and asks "how we save Atlas next".

Oscar has priorites. Heart to heart later, crisis now!

multiple Atlesian pilots on the radio wondering what the h*ck those hostiles are and what their sensors are playing at.

... Ironwood. Did... did you tell your people about the warning stations getting taken out... Or did you just go to the Vault entrance and wait for Win... *Pained Sigh.*

If I extrapolate from what I think are Nevermores then that is a huge flying whale. Whales can't survive outside water - aside from the obvious breathing difficulties, they're too big to not collapse under their own weight, relying on their buoyancy in water to take up the slack - but try telling that to Salem, perched dramatically atop it.

This led to a lot of people pulling out an old movie for a hypothetical Salem/Ironwood encounter over the hiatus...


View: https://youtu.be/dy2zB8bLSpk

Also, Salem has a new dress!
 
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I ran out of time. The Rooster Teeth website, where I was watching, is now down. Crunchyroll has RWBY and Ice Queendom, but not for free users, meaning that I'll have to find a block of uninterrupted watching time for the premium trial week and/or shell out for premium. (Crunchyroll does not have V9 Beyond, meaning that I may well never be able to watch it.) Chibi is on YouTube. Somebody please tell me if they're about to take down their YouTube account(s).
If you're up for high seas activities I have some links I can offer.

Also, I love this episode. I'm not sure if it's my favourite because I struggle to rank things like that but every piece and character moment in it is amazing, the soundtrack is perfect, the editing is perfect -

Oh and it has my favourite line in the whole show. People gave Jessica Nigri so much shit for her VA work as Cinder in V2, and then kept giving it to her for no reason despite her delivery in V3 onwards being spine chilling. Anyone who thinks she's a bad VA after 'it just makes the rest of us hungrier - and I refuse to starve' is just a wanker though (or a misogynist, a lot of the critique of her as a VA was based on her cosplay work and the sex appeal of it - so obviously she can't do voice work! Morons). The writing, the delivery - if anyone wants to know why Cinder's one of my favourite characters, this is the line I show them. Goddamn.
 
Oh and it has my favourite line in the whole show. People gave Jessica Nigri so much shit for her VA work as Cinder in V2, and then kept giving it to her for no reason despite her delivery in V3 onwards being spine chilling

The thing about Cinder in volume 2 and 3 is that she's doing a Salem act. And while some of it was likely worked out later as the overall plot stabilized, I'm pretty sure the 'act' detail was there from the start. So in her earlier appearances, Jessica, despite being an inexperienced VA, was voicing a character doing an imitation of another character. That we'd never seen on screen. That takes talent. And yes, the criticisms of her have always been based in 'omg, she has an onlyfans!'
 
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Less amusingly, some fans took issue with this. Not even because she's a robot. But because the aura used to ignite her soul came from a man. This just meant that all us trans women just adopted Penny even harder. She's OUR maiden!
I just never got this. Yes, Penny was created by a man. As were Ruby, Yang, Winter, Cinder, Amber, Fria, in short, every person in real life and the vast majority of characters in every piece of fiction ever. Is Aura even gender-coded? People worry about blood type when doing a transfusion but they don't worry about blood gender. It was all just a complete non-sequitur for me from every approach.
 
I ran out of time. The Rooster Teeth website, where I was watching, is now down. Crunchyroll has RWBY and Ice Queendom, but not for free users, meaning that I'll have to find a block of uninterrupted watching time for the premium trial week and/or shell out for premium. (Crunchyroll does not have V9 Beyond, meaning that I may well never be able to watch it.) Chibi is on YouTube. Somebody please tell me if they're about to take down their YouTube account(s).
There's a site which archived all of the content on the Rooster Teeth website. It's called "The Archive of Pimps"*, and it should have all of RWBY up on it. Former crew members have even referenced using it themselves, so ethically there should be no problems with it.

* The name is a reference to Achievement Hunter's minecraft Let's Plays
 
Oh and it has my favourite line in the whole show. People gave Jessica Nigri so much shit for her VA work as Cinder in V2, and then kept giving it to her for no reason despite her delivery in V3 onwards being spine chilling. Anyone who thinks she's a bad VA after 'it just makes the rest of us hungrier - and I refuse to starve' is just a wanker though (or a misogynist, a lot of the critique of her as a VA was based on her cosplay work and the sex appeal of it - so obviously she can't do voice work! Morons). The writing, the delivery - if anyone wants to know why Cinder's one of my favourite characters, this is the line I show them. Goddamn.
Dude, the way Nigri absolutely howls when Winter cuts Cinder's arm off is top fucking notch. It's an aspect of voice work that people don't really think about, but that kind of guttural screaming is not something most people can do on command.

I never cared for the sultry villain act from Cinder. But when she gets down low, when she's panicking or angry or frightened, Jessica Nigri brings home the bacon. Every bit of her work during the Cinder v. Penny & Winter fight is gold.
 
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I just never got this. Yes, Penny was created by a man. As were Ruby, Yang, Winter, Cinder, Amber, Fria, in short, every person in real life and the vast majority of characters in every piece of fiction ever. Is Aura even gender-coded? People worry about blood type when doing a transfusion but they don't worry about blood gender. It was all just a complete non-sequitur for me from every approach.

Terfs gotta terf.
 
Word is that the youtube channels are staying up, last I heard. If I find Beyond and such posted somewhere, I'll let you know.
That's good to hear, and thank you.

But not as effortlessly as many expected. This is Neos first time against multiple opponents, and her first time against people that may have heard about how she fights, and here it becomes clear that a lot of her 'effortless' fighting isn't wildly superior skill, but good acting. Neo's a performer, using her acting skills to portray superior confidence and seemingly effortless evasion, even if inside she's sweating.
And, being a performer, she effortlessly fooled me.

I mean, it's not like the guards would be looking for Cinder, Neo, or any other of Salems agents that may have infiltrated the place. That would be crazy.
Absolutely silly.

With a demonstration once again that Neo is like Tyrian in a way. She won't pass up the opportunity for attempted murder. She could have nicked the relic off his belt and vanished before he turned around, but murder!
The argument could be made that Tyrian is like Neo, given Neo was indulging in opportunistic attempted murder more than a Volume before Tyrian first appeared.

Also the fact the military have gone full dictatorship. I think he was REALLY counting on the adults having some more idea what to do than the team.
Wouldn't we all?

'Arrest' warrant. Harriet would be proud.
Unfortunately for Harriet, she can't be proud (yet) because she's sleeping off her own attempt at executing an arrest warrant.

Please note that. Oscar puts his weapon away. A lot of Ironwood defenders like to claim that what happens next was 'only James being logical', because 'Ozpin was armed and clearly threatening him.' They really like denying Oscar his agency here... They also like to claim, much like with the office scene, that Ironwood is being 'calm and reasonable'.

When in fact, he's anything but. He's not just afraid. He's angry and in denial of that fear, and he turns that anger on people who point out there's no shame in that fear. He throws out claims like the deaths of everyone in mantle are just a 'philosophical issue' that doesn't matter in the grand scheme, but as he keeps ranting here, it becomes clear what so much of this is about. The real issue behind all his political scheming since his first appearance, his trust issues, all of it. He needs to be the hero. The one who is always right. And as he backs a teenage boy up against the ledge, that all spills out. He was the one making the right calls because he made them. They were necessary because he said so. And how dare people disagree with him.
This moment here is where the last of James Ironwoods better traits die, strangled by the fear and ego, leaving a man who will do anything to secure his power base against any perceived threat. Even murder a child who has done nothing to him but be kind and supportive, despite the existential terrors he's been forced to live with since Beacon fell.

It's a tragedy honestly. James Ironwood had the potential to be a better man. But his own worse instincts, the Atlas military machine, the fear of Salem, it burned that better man away.
This deserves some insightful words in response. Unfortunately, I didn't really have any even before I spent too long on KYM trying to find the image with which I wanted to respond to something else up there, so you'll just have to accept my upvote instead. Ironwood may have been being calm and reasonable at some point in the past - likely even this Volume. That time is gone.

This led to an interesting fan theory. Namely, that the Maidens don't need to wait for death to pass the powers on. It killed Fria here, but at this point it was the powers keeping her alive. If she could choose to pass them on directly like this, was she deliberately keeping them, out of a concern of the path James and Atlas were taking...?
I like this theory. On the one hand, her only source of information of any kind is Winter Schnee, who was pretty much cheerleading that path. On the other hand, Fria was no fool, and probably could read between Winter's lines.

The speed and ease with which the eyes come out this time, when she struggled and failed with the mammoth demonstrate once again how closely the need to protect is part of the power. Penny and Winter were in immediate danger, her subconcious took charge and the eyes OBEYED.
Ruby has had to struggle both times she tried to protect something nebulous and greater-scope, respectively Argus and Mantle. When she had something immediate to protect - Pyrrha from Cinder (slightly too late :(), Jaune from Cinder, Blake from Apathies, now Penny (and Winter) from Cinder - she had a much easier time. She had to be coached into the second burst against the Apathies, but it had been less than a minute since the first.

I don't think it was teleporting. I think he made a hole in the bottom of the island and kept falling, using the time outside to slow himself properly.
Atlas didn't look high enough up to get Oscar that much fall time, so as far as I can tell he must have teleported upwards. Of course, my usual state is 'probably wrong'.

Well yeah Neo. You're replacement Emerald, and she never acknowledged Emeralds contributions.

Which is an interesting point. Neo sees this as a partnership. But I'm not sure Cinder does.
A partnership implies equal partners, and Cinder has no equals - and really only one superior.

Oscar has priorites. Heart to heart later, crisis now!
Good priorities. More of these people should have had them. For example, Qrow.

... Ironwood. Did... did you tell your people about the warning stations getting taken out... Or did you just go to the Vault entrance and wait for Win... *Pained Sigh.*
Nah, had to go straight to the Vault so Atlas could float out of danger. Except it didn't work out that way. Always have a backup plan.

This led to a lot of people pulling out an old movie for a hypothetical Salem/Ironwood encounter over the hiatus...
Wait, is that movie old now?! (checks) 2010. That's even older than I would have guessed.

People gave Jessica Nigri so much shit for her VA work as Cinder in V2, and then kept giving it to her for no reason despite her delivery in V3 onwards being spine chilling. Anyone who thinks she's a bad VA after 'it just makes the rest of us hungrier - and I refuse to starve' is just a wanker though (or a misogynist, a lot of the critique of her as a VA was based on her cosplay work and the sex appeal of it - so obviously she can't do voice work! Morons).
The thing about Cinder in volume 2 and 3 is that she's doing a Salem act. And while some of it was likely worked out later as the overall plot stabilized, I'm pretty sure the 'act' detail was there from the start. So in her earlier appearances, Jessica, despite being an inexperienced VA, was voicing a character doing an imitation of another character. That we'd never seen on screen. That takes talent. And yes, the criticisms of her have always been based in 'omg, she has an onlyfans!'
Because sex is only okay when men do it. Like Vic Mignogna. (so much /s)




After I post V7-compliant Fic Recs in a moment, I'll be taking a hiatus of, oh, a week or two maybe, while I decompress a little from my frenetic one-a-day posting not-officially-a-schedule (driven by the then-uncertain deadline) and think about my next move to keep watching. Thanks to everyone who's been reading thus far, but thanks especially to the folks who have been ideating about said next move, or just keeping an eye out.
 
Fic Recs: Knowing Is Half The Battle
{{I am assured that the other half is colour-coded lasers. Anyway, welcome to more fic recs, now with dead Adam!
  • The Big Bad Bull and The Little Red Reaper (Anthurak): A rec I get to pass on to everyone after getting it from the SB thread. Turns out V4 Ruby hard-counters Adam.
  • Empathy (and other emotions you should feel when) (NeonCrayons): "it's been a year since v6e4 and i'm still salty over how Team RWBY reacted after 'The Lost Fable' so here is my fix-it" Not a lot more to say about these four hundred words.
  • Let The Dead Lie (Selene Sokal): One of that extremely sparsely populated category of 'Cinder redemption fics worth reading'. Selene Sokal is a sufficiently skilled writer to make a lot of premises work, this among them: Jaune recognises his friend Cin, both having thought the other died when their village was destroyed years ago. Yes, I know that backstory's been thoroughly Jossed later.
  • Fire From The Ashes (Selene Sokal): In which Pyrrha gets resurrected as a Grimm for maximum emotional damage. Too bad (not bad at all!) Jaune has a literal soul-boosting Semblance.
  • Continuum (Reign_of_Rayne): Speaking of sparsely populated categories, wish Adam had been less of a tool? Adam gets isekaied from his canonical death to do it again, and is less of a tool.
  • Semblance Mishaps (Alvaaron): "Or, five reasons why Jaune doesn't go around buffing everyone all the time." It's funny, but only from this side of the fourth wall.
  • Cute like Cavities (vendetta543): Whenever I've been calling Ruby adorable, I've been channelling this fic to some extent. Imagine a world where she's literally eldritch-grade adorable. It is a happier place. Even for her, much as she can't realise it. Especially because that.
That's all for now. Hopefully soonish, Volume 8, where it all goes to hell some more.}}
 
By the way, since I didn't watch this season, I think these reviews have answered a question I had about Salem's plot: Why now? She's had a long time to line up all the pieces to attack, she could have done it back during the war when everyone was already fighting each other, for example (although I do bet she made that worse). And I think it's Watts. As much as it kills me to play into his ego, I think Watt's combination of intel on Ironwood and access to all of Atlas' computer systems meant Salem pushed her plans into high gear.

The other thing main thing was compromising Leo. That gave her direct access to not only information but control over the movements of hunters and the ability to get documentation for any trainee-age (or near trainee-age) minions she wanted to use to infiltrate Beacon.

Oh, don't get me wrong, Cinder and Tyrian are valuable assets she wouldn't like to lose if she could help it, but Leo and Watts basically gave her the keys to two kingdoms (and Watts' computer skills plus Leo's connections were valuable for striking at the remaining ones as well). Once she had both of them under her control, she knew it was time to act before one or both aged out of usefulness (a real concern for immortals with mortal servants).
 
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By the way, since I didn't watch this season, I think these reviews have answered a question I had about Salem's plot: Why now? She's had a long time to line up all the pieces to attack, she could have done it back during the war when everyone was already fighting each other, for example (although I do bet she made that worse). And I think it's Watts. As much as it kills me to play into his ego, I think Watt's combination of intel on Ironwood and access to all of Atlas' computer systems meant Salem pushed her plans into high gear.

The other thing main thing was compromising Leo. That gave her direct access to not only information but control over the movements of hunters and the ability to get documentation for any trainee-age (or near trainee-age) minions she wanted to use to infiltrate Beacon.

Oh, don't get me wrong, Cinder and Tyrian are valuable assets she wouldn't like to lose if she could help it, but Leo and Watts basically gave her the keys to two kingdoms (and Watts computer skills plus Leo's connections were valuable for striking at the remaining ones as well). Once she had both of them under her control, she knew it was time to act before one or both aged out of usefulness (a real concern for immortals with mortal servants).

Leo and Watts were definitely irreplaceable, while Cinder, Tyrian and Hazel are just her assets for the current century. Of the three, only losing Cinder would be a problem, and that's more the question of where the maiden powers would go, which is why she was so willing to let Cinder sit out in the cold in V6 and 7.

This honestly makes her treatment of Leo during their conversation at the start of V5 and Leos death even more interesting. Sure, he'd been burned as an asset at the end, but even before that there was absolutely no respect for him, not even feigned or just 'good pet.' She was solely the boot stamping down. She's been able to show her more personable side to even Mercury and Emerald, even if she will apply the boot to them as needed. Compare this to all the other minions she speaks with directly.
 
This honestly makes her treatment of Leo during their conversation at the start of V5 and Leos death even more interesting. Sure, he'd been burned as an asset at the end, but even before that there was absolutely no respect for him, not even feigned or just 'good pet.' She was solely the boot stamping down. She's been able to show her more personable side to even Mercury and Emerald, even if she will apply the boot to them as needed. Compare this to all the other minions she speaks with directly.
I think it's the betrayal that is irking her in his particular case. Watts was never loyal to Atlas, despite being from there. Leo on the other hand was once brave, but that died out long enough ago to make him her tool, and she hated him for it.
 
I think it's the betrayal that is irking her in his particular case. Watts was never loyal to Atlas, despite being from there. Leo on the other hand was once brave, but that died out long enough ago to make him her tool, and she hated him for it.
She definitely doesn't respect him for it, but I suspect part of the hate is because he used to work for Ozpin/Ozma. Although, given how mixed her feelings probably are on that front she might simultaneously hate him for having worked for Ozma and be offended on Ozma's behalf about his betrayal.
 
The Video Games
Decompression status: Played videogames, including the two RWBY videogames available on Steam.



Arrowfell


RWBY: Arrowfell is what commonly gets called a Metroidvania game - 2D half-platformer half-RPG. Its events are set early in V7 and see Team RWBY, on their first official mission as Hunters, gallivanting around Atlas, Mantle, and several nearby towns to figure out what's going on with an orb-shaped device they found that attracts Grimm. Spoiler alert, there are more of them later.

Come play Arrowfell, we have:
  • A new vocal piece by the Williams duo.
  • Not enough controls help. The only mention of the basics is in the binding settings, which I didn't find until later when I was setting up a controller, because they're labelled "Controller Bindings". As for dropping through a thin platform - a required skill in the intro level - no help at all; I had to get that one off a YouTube comment. (It's 'jump while crouching'.)
  • Bats.
  • Firing weapons depletes Aura, but Semblances do not. I get the gameplay choice, but it makes no sense in lore.
  • Mysterious Grimm-attracting orbs.
  • Skill points, and lampshading thereof.
  • Literal Goddamned Bats.
  • So many bad decisions at the end of Chapter 1.
  • Constant abbreviation of "Lieutenant Colonel" as "Lieutenant", which is not how that works.
  • Yet another failed train journey.
  • Bats! Bats on my face! Help!
  • Bram Thornmane is an absolute stopped clock of a person.
  • No postgame whatsoever to find those three skill points you missed.
In summary, it was okay. Thing is, I finished it in about twelve hours (including copying my save file and tracking down those last three skill points), and then that's it, there's no more of it. I'm not sure about the value for money.



Grimm Eclipse


RWBY: Grimm Eclipse describes itself as a hack-and-slash game, which is a genre I have even less experience with. Its events are set between V2 and V3 and see Team RWBY, and Team JNPR if you buy the DLC, investigating a little mess that turns out to be the resurgence of whatever mad science was going on at Merlot Industries.

Grimm Eclipse contains:
  • Pyrrha.
  • Shockingly weak ranged attacks. Again, I can understand the gameplay choice, but it just feels weird needing double-digit numbers of shots fired to kill one Beowolf.
  • Soundtrack nostalgia.
  • Pyrrha.
  • A few too many key bindings for me to juggle (can you tell I usually play less frenetic games?), with no customisation.
  • Way too much mad science infrastructure for me to believe nobody noticed it.
  • Pyrrha.
  • Achievements, and other alongside-game progression, that require multiplayer. I have no friends, and if I did they almost certainly wouldn't play this, so so much for that I guess.
  • Did I mention Pyrrha?
  • A final boss fight that is nigh-impossible for a single player. Seriously, I ragequit. (Edit three days later: Got gud, saw credits.)
In summary, bring friends. How thematic.
 
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I enjoyed Grimm Eclipse. Merlot is a fun mad scientist and I assumed he had all the stuff installed back when he owned a large company and lots of people knew it existed, but not that it was still in use.

Have you heard his theme song?
It's catchy.

I did beat it solo, but then I think I'm more experienced with the genre and that last boss still took me a number of tries (I don't remember the exact number but I think more than 5 and less than 10, but I'm a little hazy so it might have been more than I think). I will say I think I pretty much discarded ranged attacks, which simplified the key bindings issue. It's been a few years, but I do remember some of the key bindings took a little getting used to, but I've played worse. Overall, I had fun but it wasn't great.
 
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