Love how the hestia family is shaping up, they click so well together.

Shame about Bell though, wish he was in it. He would be the only sane man in the guild, and the sheer wtf of having 2 rookie adventurers competing on who gets to the next level fastest would be mind breaking to every god.

They would be wondering if Hestia gad won the lottery or used her powers to get bell with his cheat and QA with hers.

Both of them would escalate so well together!

Has Aiz met Bell in this timeline? Because that meeting was how he even got his skill, and their relationship was cute. She would have 2 Kohai for her to cuddle! And pets too!
 
"I was actually planning on giving Aiz Wallenstein a gold-colored Friend," Administrator admitted. "She has been unconsciously whispering her desire for a kitten-Friend with increasing frequency. I had been planning on saying my Spirit gave it to me, which would be entirely truthful and would save us from needing to explain how it had been imported so quickly."
Do they really need to explain quick imports? Her homeland is supposed to have dimensional magic.
 
"Lili thinks you could make person-based animals!" Lili burst out, feeling genuine excitement for the first time in years. It was clear the others hadn't even considered it and she was proud to raise her own perceived value yet further. "A monster-maker would be scary. Guardians based on the person would be more obviously magical, but in a good way! Lili's could be small and harmless-looking like her, Aiz Wallenstein's swift and gold to match, and you could do the rest later!"

Thematic pets, with abilities based on their owners! Aiz gets an adorable golden murderkitten, while Lili gets a tiny fluffball that can maybe shift its appearance!

Later, after more Friends are made for more friends, they can join forces to form the world's cutest small animal sentai team!
 
Thematic pets, with abilities based on their owners! Aiz gets an adorable golden murderkitten, while Lili gets a tiny fluffball that can maybe shift its appearance!

Later, after more Friends are made for more friends, they can join forces to form the world's cutest small animal sentai team!
Honestly I read that as her asking if Tay can make Disney style anthromorphic critters.
 
Do they really need to explain quick imports? Her homeland is supposed to have dimensional magic.
QA wants them thinking in terms of tactical (smaller scale) magic, not strategic (long-range). Strategic would cause all sorts of extra problems.

So lili doesn't know gods can sense lies?
Just to poke at this, I don't recall whether it's known since this is Lili's POV, but Hestia should know whether she's making truthful statements and what to believe.
Lili knows, and Hestia suspects that Lili knows, and Lili suspects that Hestia suspects that Lili knows. Queen Administrator is rapidly teaching the Goddess of the Hearth how to skirt around with technical truths.

For example, "Lili knows she doesn't need to join" fits a fairly broad range. Lili might not need to join, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a good idea or that it wouldn't be a bad idea not to.
 
Lili had misjudged Queen Administrator. In Lili's defense, it looked like everyone else had also misjudged the monarch.
Oh, you don't know the half of it.
Administrator wasn't a hero; real heroes didn't exist.
Ehhh, they do, but they're so damn rare that they might as well not, and the nastier parts of the world tend to shit on them at every opportunity.
She was a leader of what you'd expect from a nation of secretive scholars, though.
Should this be "what you'd expect from a leader of" ?
Unwilling to accept prolonged idiocy in any form, willing to execute those who'd oppose her will or harm her Familia, and utterly unaware of how the world actually worked outside of theories.
Alarmingly accurate.
Thinking of her as an adventurer would be a disservice; Queen Administrator was more like an... explorer! That worked.
Whatever mental gymnastics let you justify hypocrisy, Lili.
Lili was still missing an explanation for why she'd been chosen, though. On the way to the Hestia Familia's home, Lili had overheard some people talking about how Administrator had harshly turned away all the adventurers who'd tried to join their Familia with the reveal of Queen Administrator's real name and title. Lili's favorite was "moronic, title-chasing skin-sack of inadequately bioactive water and equally flawed bone." The Supporter could only assume it was an amusingly weird translation of some harsh insult from Queen Administrator's homeland.
Long weird insults tend to be the funniest.
In contrast, Tiona Hiryute acted in a manner compatible with Lili's view of her and adventurers in general. She was helping Lili because the amazoness thought it would be entertaining and had not-quite-offered a spot in the Loki Familia since it might let the Sword Princess benefit from training Lili. Everyone knew that Aiz Wallenstein had a new skill that incentivized training rookies; last Lili heard of them, the Loki Familia had been getting bombarded with constant apprenticeship requests, all of which were politely refused.
Ouch. Man, Lili is gonna have a much harder time learning to trust people without Bell around to be unrelentingly helpful and kind.
So, no, Lili didn't share Queen Administrator's naive affection for Tiona Hiryute. Lili did, however, wish that more adventurers could entertain themselves by helping instead of harming. The Supporter could tolerate Hiryute if she never flipped back to the other, more common adventurer method of having fun.
At least she'll put up with people who don't try to screw her over.
Hestia didn't seem anything like the rest of the gods and goddesses Lili had watched, though. The goddess reminded her of the elderly couple who'd taken Lili in when she'd tried to flee the Soma Familia as a child. Initially kind or not, that couple had pushed Lili away when their shop was wrecked in retribution; if life got rough, she expected Hestia would do the same.
Lili, you need to give Hestia more credit. She cares for each and every one of her children. Also, if Soma Familia does try to start shit, QA will roflstomp them and probably murderize a few with her giant kitties.
Administrator wouldn't, though. Lili had never heard of a monarch willing to back down from opposition. Entire wars had been fought over their stubbornness.
Well... accurate, I guess.
"Tiona, would you like to go have some dinner?" Hestia asked politely, keeping her eyes fixed on Lili. "I think Administrator and I should have a long, boring talk with the potential Familia member she brought in."

Please go away so we can talk about private matters, Lili mentally translated.

"I have yet to eat and I find it likely Lili is hungry as well," Queen Administrator noted in her default monotone. "She could eat with us."

Ahhh. Queen Administrator really is naive, isn't she?
I... guess kinda? In a weird fucked-up sorta way.
It was pretty obvious what Hestia had been aiming for: the privacy to lecture Administrator without an outsider overhearing and thinking the worse of them for it. Familia could be so weird about hiding their corruption from each other considering how all of them were sick.
Uhh... Lili, you realize a handful of examples does not a generality make, right? No, wait, of course you don't, you (again) blame all adventurers, everywhere, for what the bad ones do. This is a bad habit of hers, really...
Their oddly competitive civility was the only explanation Lili had for how Orario hadn't collapsed on itself centuries ago.
That said, yeah there's enough bad eggs and lunatics that there's no way it should be working.
In the aftermath of Administrator's proposal, Hestia looked remarkably like a cat caught bullying a baby — not quite guilty, but not sure how she would manage to explain herself.
That's a fantastic analogy.
Tiona came to the goddess's rescue before things could get too awkward.

"I'm pretty sure she's trying to politely get rid of me so you can talk about private stuff," the Hiryute said dryly. "I don't mind. Inducting someone into your Familia shouldn't be something done blind. So, want me to grab some takeout for you lot so she can focus on that instead of cooking? And don't give me an automatic denial, Hestia, I can more than afford it."

Hestia closed her mouth on the polite refusal she'd undoubtably been about to issue and took a moment to actually think about it.
classic Hestia.
"If you don't mind, I think that would be for the best," Hestia admitted. "Otherwise, I'm not sure I'll have enough to feed everyone healthy portions at breakfast tomorrow. Thank you, Tiona."
*CONCERN*
You'd better hope QA doesn't misinterpret that, Tiona. Your wallet might not survive.
The amazoness skipped out of the church and pulled the door shut behind her. Lili didn't really think that broken front windows and barely-boarded side windows would provide much privacy, but it seemed as though Hestia had thought of that; the goddess led Lili and Queen Administrator to a large trapdoor in one corner of the room and opened it to reveal a staircase leading downward, the hidden passage concluding in a heavy wood door. The goddess needed to unlock the latter before they could enter with QA's Friends staying behind to guard the trapdoor.

The Hestia Familia's basement home wasn't very large, but it was kept clean and three half-filled bookshelves concealed the fact that it was almost barren of decorations. Even the (surprisingly high) ceiling looked to be kept clean; considering that there didn't seem to be any ladders in sight and Hestia was little more than a head taller than Lili, the Supporter really did wonder how she managed that. Did the goddess stack multiple chairs on top of each other…?
If I remember correctly this was the result of QA and Taylor cheating somehow.
The kitchen off to the right and the bathroom straight ahead were similarly spotless. Sleeping arrangements could be a little awkward, though; there was only one bed in the bedroom and one couch near the entrance. Lili wasn't sure she wouldn't reflexively hit one of them if she was meant to share the bed; she'd learned to sleep light in the Soma Familia if she wanted to avoid having her belongings stolen. Even after she practically moved out, the habit persisted and had protected her equipment from two different burglars so far.
Seeing as Hestia makes a habit of cuddling QA every night, you'll probably be fine on the couch. Or you won't tell Hestia about your reflexes and she'll try to cuddle you instead and you'll punch her in the face.
Hestia gestured for Lili to sit down on a well-worn, cloth-padded chair and moved to take a seat opposite her. Queen Administrator also obeyed the silent order, but began speaking before everyone was seated.

"Hestia, Lili, I now have enough Magic Stones to make suitable Guardians for both of you. Do you have any—" the monarch began.

"Administrator, you can't just treat Lili joining like it's a foregone conclusion!" Hestia interrupted, hissing. "Um, I'm sorry, Lili, she doesn't mean anything by it!"

The goddess's eyes repeatedly switched from Administrator to Lili and back as though the monarch had just revealed some great secret. Lili supposed she had; if Queen Administrator could make something autonomous from Monster Cores, well, that was only one step away from what the Dungeon could do. Even research into magical efforts to replace limbs was often viewed with suspicion; the more life-like a replacement, the larger the stigma. Lili had heard of plenty of people who wanted to become blacksmiths, but despite the large market among injured adventurers, nobody ever aimed to become a limb-smith.
Yeah, nobody trusts Dungeon stuff, probably thanks to the Monster Core corruption issue. I wonder if anyone in Haephestus Familia would be willing to team up on something like that...
Queen Administrator blinked with apparent surprise and appeared as though she would continue thinking of the Supporter as a guaranteed future sister despite the objections of her goddess.

"Lili is far too intelligent not to accept, especially with the added incentive of a Guardian-Friend of her own."

Administrator's voice lifted to the happiness-imitating tone she'd assumed when first greeting Lili.

"She was even cunning enough to ensure her request for aid had as many witnesses as possible. I would've assisted her either way, yet she couldn't have been sure of that and ensured my recent reputation would be severely damaged if I backed down."
And of course, that's something QA is proud of.
Lili barely noticed the reveal of her motives; she was too busy trying to grapple with the implications of Queen Administrator's words. Guardian-Friend? The monarch's cats were artificial? Merciless gods, no wonder Hestia wanted to keep that quiet.
That little "merciless gods" swear sure says a thing or two about Lili's worldview...
The Supporter couldn't see Orario handling that revelation very well; everyone still remembered the now-dead coalition of sadistic gods, Evilus, who'd thought acting like villains would be fun. Someone capable of creating monsters was even harder to guard against than the monster smuggling and widespread attacks Evilus had carried out half a decade ago.
I want to see Lili's thoughts when she finds out QA can 'store their souls'.
"She wh—" Hestia began, then stopped and shook her head. "Lili, I understand and I'm not mad, but Administrator! Why are you happy about that?"

Nobody would lead the charge against Queen Administrator lest their Familia be the one to receive a Familia Curse, but it was only a matter of time until… well, the public distrusted the Hestia Familia in general, Lili supposed. Perhaps not more than that; having Hephaestus, Loki, and maybe even Freya as interested allies would prevent most overt consequences.
I see thinking isn't a free action.
And that brought up another issue: If Lili was able to make the connection between artificial monsters and the Monster Mansion, others were sure to do so as well. Aside from possibly-twisted words, what guarantee did they have that Queen Administrator hadn't been experimenting with the Dungeon itself? If the monster-making was a trait of QA's homeland, that, too, would be problematic; the recent Magic Stone thieves could likely make an army out of what they'd taken. Even powerful political aid wouldn't keep Administrator in Orario if there was ever a repeat incident.
Luckily QA and Taylor know not to poke the dungeon again and Taylor got enough material to last her quite a while iirc.
"As previously mentioned, it demonstrated an ability to exploit available opportunities, creativity, and intelligence in general. Lili's form-changing ability is too versatile to ignore, yet her other traits pushed her from a good Familia candidate to an excellent one."

Hestia paused, closed her eyes, and took a deep breath before opening them again.

"Please explain," Hestia ordered, her tone clearly indicating it wasn't a request.

Lili was pretty sure it hadn't been directed at Queen Administrator, but the monarch answered anyway.

"While with Tiona, my Friends signaled that someone with too many similarities to be a different person — otherwise known as a form-changer or shapeshifter — was present and indicated that an elven child was the individual in question. I flagged Lili for future reference and encountered her again as I was entering the Dungeon, accompanied by four adventurers who were emotionally neglecting her and now wearing her current appearance. As they would undoubtably oppose me if I contacted Lili at that time and I had a prior appointment with Aiz Wallenstein, I resolved to contact her after she was alone and continued into the Dungeon. I did so, and I believe the events following that have already been summarized."
I bet the Friends have the ability to monitor air currents and ground tremors to detect invisibility, too. Or maybe they just remember literally everyone they've ever seen?
Lili and Hestia both stared at the visibly satisfied monarch, the former not sure whether she should be happy or upset that her magic, Cinder Ella, had already been revealed. She was always going to need shift back so that her Familia's Captain couldn't learn of it, but she'd expected to reveal it of her own accord. Knowing that Administrator's cats could see through her disguises was more than a little disturbing.
Yeahhhh... overconfidence has brought down many a shapeshifter.
At least now I have an answer for why Queen Administrator picked me…? The thought was actually rather satisfying. Lili's magic was useful for non-combat purposes, but adventurers didn't care about those.
It's actually useful for combat purposes too if you're creative enough with it. The wiki only says "same size as herself" and lord knows unlimited shapechanging even within a subset like that is brokenly OP. She probably can't actually do anything too nonviable, but she could probably shapeshift some extra sharp edges for use in multi-melee. Or shapeshift her body into elementally-aligned materials to always win elemental rock-paper-scissors? I wonder if she could use a Troll-type monster's form to grant herself regen...
It was nice to be recognized for something concrete instead of such a confusing concept as 'potential.' As Lili's life had shown, disguise magic was perfect for a thief or a con artist. And if Queen Administrator came from a country with magic to bridge two places, perhaps she recognized those applications? Lili wouldn't mind helping with smaller, more subtle heists if others helped her in return. Not another widespread theft, though; everyone would blame Administrator if they did that.
Taylor can do that part herself, she did a mass YOINK when they were just starting off, but I have no idea what other plans they might have in mind for Lili...
"Lili's magic is called Cinder Ella," Lili provided. "As Queen Administrator said, Lili uses it to change herself and hide from the Soma Familia. Lili still goes back every month, but Lili hasn't given Soma enough Valis to have her Status updated for almost half a year."

Hestia stiffened and looked genuinely horrified, as though the concept of exchanging money for Status updates was something utterly foreign to her. It might be; if Queen Administrator was Hestia's first Familia member, that meant the goddess had descended recently. Most gods weren't so overt, but they did still tax their children's income and kicked them out of the Familia if they refused to pay.
Will Hestia ever go that route if she gets enough kids that upkeep costs get out of hand?
There did seem to be something else to Hestia's expression, though. She was looking at Lili in a manner the Supporter couldn't quite place. It wasn't the anger; that was clearly aimed at Soma.
My best guess is compassion. Lili probably doesn't see genuine compassion often enough to recognize it. (or just doesn't notice when it's there normally because she's too busy musing about how awful adventurers all are)
"We're absolutely getting you out of there," Hestia managed, visibly divided between apparent fury and alarm. "How long has this been going on?"

"Since Lili was born!" Lili replied. The Supporter briefly hesitated before continuing. "Fifteen years."

Hestia blinked, squinted at Lili, and appeared to remember Cinder Ella's existence. The goddess looked even angrier at that point, but Lili didn't think it was directed at her. It was a nice change from what she was used to.
I bet Soma gets slapped upside the head by the Shard-Spirit. Not a curse, just a "get ahold of yourself, man!"
Queen Administrator was not so restrained. Lili jumped in her seat and forced herself not to scramble away as the adventurer explorer lunged across the room and pulled Lili into a hug.
Lili needs all the hugs. Wouldn't expect QA to be-
"And you look like a child to minimize suspicion and maximize potential gains!" Queen Administrator squealed. "It's perfect! See why I picked her, Hestia?"
-... oh.
"Oh, yes," Hestia said distractedly. "And please broadcast your movements more, Administrator, it's clear she's not used to getting hugs. Forget what I said about keeping your Friends to yourself; Lili gets to have one even if she doesn't join. Is there any way for you to show her something before making it so she knows what she'll be comfortable with?"

Queen Administrator released lili and nodded enthusiastically.

"I can sketch potential designs. Lili, what is your favorite organism? I can create something not based off a preexisting Terran creature, but Hestia has recommended I use their exteriors to avoid suspicion."

"Something you're comfortable following you around," Hestia provided.

Lili's face twitched as she stopped it from frowning thoughtfully. She needed to keep her mask of false happiness in place; she was no longer sure she'd need it immediately, but she'd always had trouble replacing it after stopping.
The fact that she even needs that more often than "occasionally" says a lot about her life...
"Lili doesn't want a black cat," Lili said aloud. "Everyone knows about those and thinks they're only for Queen Administrator's foreign family. Lili doesn't want someone trying to steal it or realizing Queen Administrator can make them instead of importing them."

The monarch hesitated for a few seconds before replying.

"I was actually planning on giving Aiz Wallenstein a gold-colored Friend," Administrator admitted. "She has been unconsciously whispering her desire for a kitten-Friend with increasing frequency. I had been planning on saying my Spirit gave it to me, which would be entirely truthful and would save us from needing to explain how it had been imported so quickly."
Oh god dammit QA you just-
Hestia looked pained while Lili frowned. The Supporter had almost forgotten about the 'Shard-Spirit;' she had assumed it was the leader of whatever foreign pseudo-Familia Administrator formerly belonged to, but Administrator's possessive reference indicated the rumors about one hiding amid the populace were true. The monarch had indicated she was the one designing them, though. Were the Friends a collaborative effort between Queen Administrator and her Spirit? Administrator for their concept, the Spirit for turning ideas into reality?
-Ehhh, it's about half and half on each, really. Also, I want to see Lili's thoughts when she puts together that QA has her own personal Spirit that's capable of one-shotting an entire familia if they piss her off.
"I think that would work. But Queen Administrator, please at least keep that secret unless Lili joins," Hestia said, appearing pained by her child's loose lips. "Mistakes happen. Lili, the Friends come fully grown if Administrator doesn't specify otherwise, so you don't need to start with a kitten if you don't want to."

The goddess's eyes lingered on Lili's ears and tail as she said that. The disguised pallum decided not to enlighten Hestia as to her actual race. The only big appeal of a cat would be how visibly intimidating it would be, and that same threat would keep Lili from taking it certain places.

"Can Queen Administrator do something exotic enough to be overlooked as Lili's protector?" Lili asked. "Everyone knows the Friends are big and dangerous. If Queen Administrator could make it, Lili would prefer something small and harmless-looking. Something happy staying in Lili's backpack or carried on her unless it's needed?"

Small and harmless looking, just like meee oh. Between that and Aiz Wallenstein's gold kitten, Lili had a wonderful idea. Unfortunately, she had to keep it to herself for the moment; Hestia was beginning to speak while her child nodded with abnormally normal-looking enthusiasm.
Uh-oh.
"It doesn't need to be exotic," Hestia sighed. "I literally did not want to know how dangerous her Friends are. Their list of weapons was long."

"Lili thinks you could make person-based animals!" Lili burst out, feeling genuine excitement for the first time in years. It was clear the others hadn't even considered it and she was proud to raise her own perceived value yet further. "A monster-maker would be scary. Guardians based on the person would be more obviously magical, but in a good way! Lili's could be small and harmless-looking like her, Aiz Wallenstein's swift and gold to match, and you could do the rest later!"
That... actually might work. And she's happy she's raised her own perceived value further, not that she's genuinely helping... man, this is going to be such a dysfunctional family.
There was the briefest of delays as the other people in the room stopped to consider Lili's idea. This time, the Supporter was prepared for the resulting squeal and hug. She even managed to restrain herself to a small flinch away instead of a full-body reaction.

"See? See? I told you she would be perfect! Not even two hours and she provided a marvelous innovation!" Queen Administrator gushed, her expressed happiness seeming unusually normal. "Thank you for the excellent explanation, Lili! I can have her as a sibling, can't I, Hestia?"

While Lili wondered if she should remind Administrator that the Supporter wasn't an actual house-cat, Hestia smiled nervously and shrugged.
Ehhh, you'll be getting headpats all the same.
"That was always up to her. Could you go draw your idea for Lili's Friend while she and I talk about that?"

Queen Administrator nodded, detached from Lili, and skipped toward the bedroom. The monarch only stopped bouncing in the doorway to avoid hitting her head.

As soon as her child was out of the room, Hestia turned a nervous smile to Lili and lowered her voice slightly.

"First of all, you should know that you don't need to join our Familia if you don't want to.
I think she wants to.
We'd be glad to have you, but we'll let you keep the Friend either way. Tiona's offer is also a good one; even if Loki and I don't get along, she does love her children and is far smarter than she lets on. It certainly isn't her chest that lets her lead the top Familia in Orario."

You couldn't help yourself, could you?
Welp, sounds like that "suspending hostilities" thing may be harder than expected.
"Thank you, but Lili is aware she doesn't need to join Lady Hestia's Familia!" Lili said truthfully. "She still wants to!"

The Hestia Familia obviously wouldn't help her as much if she didn't, but it was technically an option.
Cynicism thy name is Lili.
Plus, Lili couldn't even guarantee she hadn't stolen from anyone in the Loki Familia. The Supporter been careful not to go after anyone belonging to such a powerful group, but Loki was well known to take in promising members of other Familia without a second thought. Someone might've joined after Lili had taken from them.
There's a word missing between "Supporter" and "been". But yeah... crime has a way of catching up to you. Funny how that works, isn't it?
And honestly, Lili did actually want to join Queen Administrator's Familia. She didn't think any other Familia would value her magic or thoughts; to them, she'd just be a level 1 supporter with a useful skill and useless magic. Lili's ideas would be stolen, ignored, or both. Here, Queen Administrator wanted her because of Lili's intelligence and magic, not despite them.
That's a much more normal reason to join.
"Right," Hestia said dubiously, clearly not believing the Supporter but unwilling to object to something that benefitted her. "I suppose we can return to that once you're actually freed. Just, if you don't join, please don't tell anyone the truth of Administrator's Friends."
I bet if Lili had explained how she felt Hestia Familia was the only one who would value her magic and intelligence, Hestia would be more willing to believe it. As it is, Hestia can't read her motives at all, and that's probably concerning.
"Lili promises not to tell!" Lili chirped with false cheer, well remembering Administrator's inclination toward homicidal solutions.
Yeah, you'd better not tell. You might have an accident if you did.
They would be of great help in letting Lili get revenge on the Soma Familia. Still, Hestia didn't appear to pick up on Lili's extra motivation and accepted the promise better than she had Lili's now-genuine willingness to join.
God dammit Lili, homicide isn't always the answer! (Granted, in the case of the ringleaders of Soma Familia's racketeering, it's probably the only answer that'll work if there's no such thing as 'prison time' for adventurers, so...)
"Thank you. I really do appreciate it. Second, you should know that Administrator isn't... quite... all there. She even has a skill explicitly stating that she doesn't see the world how she should. She's consistent in her irregularity and wonderful when you get to know her, but it's the people who don't know her that I worry about. You heard how quick she was to consider killing? I think that's something her homeland encourages. Their children are given weapons before they can walk. Administrator said it was to keep the babies from reflexively blasting threats with 'comparatively exhausting' magic."

Lili's brow twitched as she kept it from furrowing. That kinda made sense for any Spirit children, but Queen Administrator was human, wasn't she? They didn't have that sort of magic. All spells were difficult without the Falna; there were some that could be managed without it, but they were weaker, more unstable, and had far longer chants. How could human children manage even the smallest magical attack without even being able to talk?
Hahahah, hahaha, haha, ha...
"All of them?"

Hestia hesitated and took a deep breath.

"I think so. I'm sorry, but I probably shouldn't say more unless you do join us; the less you know, the less you can accidentally reveal."
And Lili STILL doesn't pick up on it.
Lili wanted to roll her eyes. The goddess should've done some vague evasion, not say there was something there worth examining. Still, the Supporter would learn about it soon enough, so she chose not to lecture the goddess on proper secret-keeping.
You might wanna do that anyway at some point, you know people are gonna have it out for Hestia sooner or later.
"And that brings us to problem three," Hestia continued. "Administrator is on track to break the Sword Princess's record by, ah, rather a lot. Aiz's tutelage will help excuse some of that, but it'll still draw a lot of attention to us. That isn't something unique; you probably know about the Familia Curse, her homeland's space magic, and whatever other things the rumor-mill fixated on. I wouldn't be surprised if they already found out about how rudely she refused applicants, too."
The rumor mill knows all! All hail the magic rumor mill!
"They did," Lili said helpfully. "Lili's favorite is 'moronic, title-chasing skin-sack of inadequately bioactive water and equally flawed bone.' Lili thinks Queen Administrator may have accidentally prompted a drinking game for inventing strange new insults."
I hope we get to see this drinking game being played in the future.
Hestia closed her eyes and sighed.

"Of course she did. Queen Administrator is many things, but she's not subtle. Our Familia is going to draw a lot of attention over time and most of it won't be very friendly. As you now know, all that will get worse if they find out some of the other secrets Administrator is hiding. With all that in mind, are you sure you want to join? We'll still help you either way."

Lili's plan to burn the Soma Familia to the ground and escape with Cinder Ella hadn't been very subtle, either.
Well... I guess she can't fault QA on that one.
And there was a stark contrast between Hestia's possibly-genuine concern and Soma's unrepentant apathy; since Lili had to pick a Familia to manage her eventual vengeance, she might as well choose one that could provide aid and possible companions. Even if the worst was true and Hestia's concern was a lie, Lili now had enough blackmail material to ensure they treated her well regardless.

"Lili is sure. Lili thinks it will be fun!"
Oh god.
…Lili honestly wasn't sure why that declaration seemed to make Hestia more uneasy than reassured. Hestia did remember that Lili was older than she looked, right? She wouldn't run through the house breaking things or any of the other things most children were allowed to do. Lili wasn't an adventurer, either; breaking things in houses was reserved for Soma.
She's realized that your idea of fun probably resembles QA's idea of an effective solution. She DID catch on to your eagerness for homicide earlier...

Good chapter, hope you feel better soon.
 
ili knows, and Hestia suspects that Lili knows, and Lili suspects that Hestia suspects that Lili knows. Queen Administrator is rapidly teaching the Goddess of the Hearth how to skirt around with technical truths.

For example, "Lili knows she doesn't need to join" fits a fairly broad range. Lili might not need to join, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a good idea or that it wouldn't be a bad idea not to.
Right, but she also said "she still wants to". That both removes ambiguity and means that Hestia should believe her. Whether it's a good/bad idea is tangential to the statement being true.
 
It's actually useful for combat purposes too if you're creative enough with it. The wiki only says "same size as herself" and lord knows unlimited shapechanging even within a subset like that is brokenly OP. She probably can't actually do anything too nonviable, but she could probably shapeshift some extra sharp edges for use in multi-melee. Or shapeshift her body into elementally-aligned materials to always win elemental rock-paper-scissors? I wonder if she could use a Troll-type monster's form to grant herself regen...

Lili's magic doesn't work like that. Think disguise magic, not freeform shapeshifting. While the transformation can provide some benefits (superior senses from some races, for example), it shatters on a good hit, and doesn't boost her stats. Which are... not great:

Strength: I 42
Endurance: I 42
Dexterity: H 143
Agility: G 285
Magic: F 317

There's a reason Lili's still a Supporter after several years of adventuring.

Honestly I read that as her asking if Tay can make Disney style anthromorphic critters.

I initially read it that way too, but that'd be a rather weird request for Lili to make. Beast people and some species of humanoid monsters already exist — Friends that resemble either would attract significantly more attention, not less.

Also, it would mean denying Aiz the purrfect Friend-kitten she so clearly desires. QA could never be so cruel. :V
 
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Lili's magic doesn't work like that. Think disguise magic, not freeform shapeshifting. While the transformation can provide some benefits (superior senses from some races, for example), it shatters on a good hit, and doesn't boost her stats. Which are... not great:

Strength: I 42
Endurance: I 42
Dexterity: H 143
Agility: G 285
Magic: F 317

There's a reason Lili's still a Supporter after several years of adventuring.



I initially read it that way too, but that'd be a rather weird request for Lili to make. Beast people and some species of humanoid monsters already exist — Friends that resemble either would attract significantly more attention, not less.

Also, it would mean denying Aiz the purrfect Friend-kitten she so clearly desires. QA could never be so cruel. :V
Yeah I figured the wiki probably wasn't getting the details right. Does the disguise fool monsters or do they automatically know it's fake?
 
I do wonder what Skill Dreamer has cooked up for Liliruca though. It could go so many ways. Something like growth increases when returning loyalty to the extent it is given to her?

(Being loyal to those who are loyal to her, betraying those who would betray her... Both cause Excellia growth.)
 
If Dreamer has input on Lili's Friend, how about an homage to the Killer Rabbit?

Maybe give it some of the abilities of the tabletop role-playing game versions. One could be the apparent very rapid teleport ability (and possibly telekinetic) where as soon as you blink or glance away from it, it might seem to disappear and then return during which time a big bite it taken out of opponents and possible all kinds of unattended weapons or debris/rocks/etc. are suddenly imbedded in them with no sign of where they came from (this is a quasi-parody of a horror monster in the role-playing game version of Munchkin).
 
Thinking of her as an adventurer would be a disservice; Queen Administrator was more like an... explorer! That worked.
Onee-sama is an adventurer. Adventurers are bad. Onee-sama is not bad. Eh?! Okay, she's a not-adventurer. Which is like an adventurer, except not.

Lili's favorite was "moronic, title-chasing skin-sack of inadequately bioactive water and equally flawed bone." The Supporter could only assume it was an amusingly weird translation of some harsh insult from Queen Administrator's homeland.
Amusingly enough, Lili is sort of accurate and wrong at the same time. From a shard's perspective, that's a pretty straightforward description of the average meatbag with a bit of a disingenuous spin to it, no "translation" involved at all. Except that sounds really weird coming from a "human" with human perspective assumed behind it, so it kind of is transliterated.

Everyone knew that Aiz Wallenstein had a new skill that incentivized training rookies; last Lili heard of them, the Loki Familia had been getting bombarded with constant apprenticeship requests, all of which were politely refused.
Interesting. Lili is someone whom I expect to have a closer ear to the rumour mill than many people, but it certainly sounds as though Aiz's skill is outright open knowledge. That said, her information may not be perfectly accurate where acceptance of apprenticeship is concerned; she hasn't heard about QA's own acceptance, after all, and little time has passed. Depending on how matters are with Bell's ambiguous possible history with her at present, she might be inclined to accept him, and also might just as well have not had the chance to accept or decline at all in the first place, but between his motivations and the public nature of Aiz's skill, I imagine that we'll learn something on that front soon. Even if Bell has already been declined off-screen, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he made another attempt after trying to do something to make her inclined to change her mind, and she might not have been the one to make any decision in the first place, so we might indeed see a flustered and anxious Bell prostrating himself before her only to be surprised to be so readily accepted, depending on the circumstances.

The goddess reminded her of the elderly couple who'd taken Lili in when she'd tried to flee the Soma Familia as a child.
It's almost like the goddess Hestia presides over home and family, or something. :rolleyes:

In the aftermath of Administrator's proposal, Hestia looked remarkably like a cat caught bullying a baby — not quite guilty, but not sure how she would manage to explain herself.
That is... a very accurate, but very specific comparison... Lili, why is that the first thing that you thought of? That sounds like there might be something of a story behind it.

"Otherwise, I'm not sure I'll have enough to feed everyone healthy portions at breakfast tomorrow. Thank you, Tiona."

...

The Hestia Familia's basement home wasn't very large, but it was kept clean and three half-filled bookshelves concealed the fact that it was almost barren of decorations. Even the (surprisingly high) ceiling looked to be kept clean; considering that there didn't seem to be any ladders in sight and Hestia was little more than a head taller than Lili, the Supporter really did wonder how she managed that. Did the goddess stack multiple chairs on top of each other…?

The kitchen off to the right and the bathroom straight ahead were similarly spotless. Sleeping arrangements could be a little awkward, though; there was only one bed in the bedroom and one couch near the entrance. Lili wasn't sure she wouldn't reflexively hit one of them if she was meant to share the bed; she'd learned to sleep light in the Soma Familia if she wanted to avoid having her belongings stolen. Even after she practically moved out, the habit persisted and had protected her equipment from two different burglars so far.

Hestia gestured for Lili to sit down on a well-worn, cloth-padded chair and moved to take a seat opposite her. Queen Administrator also obeyed the silent order, but began speaking before everyone was seated.
This has some subtle but profound significance in making an impression for Lili. This is their home. Hestia is a goddess and Queen Administrator is some exotic foreign monarch, as well as an "explorer" of importance, and yet they live in some pretty poor and unassuming accommodations. Hestia was concerned about having enough food. They're not the sort to see Lili become resentful towards them for them drowning in luxury. Socio-economic disparity can very easily lead to considerable friction in almost any culture, but this is something that is very unlikely to be an issue between them despite Lili being a downtrodden, bullied thief and the other party sort of representative of everything that she hates, because QA and Hestia are about as far from that idea as possible while still technically fitting. Basically, this is a place where Lili can feel that she fits in.

Queen Administrator blinked with apparent surprise and appeared as though she would continue thinking of the Supporter as a guaranteed future sister despite the objections of her goddess.
I do believe Lili has the right of things, there. Once QA makes up her mind... well it's pretty made up. Good luck trying to convince her that Lili isn't to be her sister; any counter-argument is likely to simply be corrected to make her right if need be. Swaying QA is straightforward and simple if approached in just the right way, but basically impossible otherwise. Attempts to force the matter are likely to end in QA convincing the opposition to accept her view rather than the other way around, or with them otherwise simply incapable of acting upon their objections by one means or another of neutralisation, and that can easily enough range from intimidation efforts to outright "elimination" of the problem without anything remotely approaching a human perspective of the matter. Lili was off as to why QA fits her idea of a monarch willing to go to war over her stubbornness, but that does not change the fact that QA does indeed fit such.

Perhaps not more than that; having Hephaestus, Loki, and maybe even Freya as interested allies would prevent most overt consequences.
That's not a small matter. Loki and Freya are the two greatest Familiae in Orario. Loki isn't Hestia's friend by any measure, but they do share a sort of paradoxically positive and adversarial relationship. They're frienemies who can work together even if they enjoy disliking one another, and QA and Aiz have a quite solid, positive association with one another at that, with all parties involved wanting to keep it that way. Freya herself doesn't seem to have any obvious connection with Hestia, but she went out of her way to exert her influence in support Queen Administrator; even if the other gods lack certainty, they can certainly hold reasonable suspicions about what they don't know. Hephaestus herself may not be as great a power in Orario, but only for a comparative sense; her influence is a softer type expressed more in economic influence, but it is a weighty influence regardless as the dominant interest in arms and armour supply from starting gear for new adventurers to personal commissions for the highest elite. That she allows Hestia to basically mooch off of her wholesale may not necessarily be known to all, but I imagine that their friendly relationship is prominent enough to make other gods uneasy at the prospect of the services of the Hephaestus Familia possibly becoming unavailable.

"As previously mentioned, it demonstrated an ability to exploit available opportunities, creativity, and intelligence in general. Lili's form-changing ability is too versatile to ignore, yet her other traits pushed her from a good Familia candidate to an excellent one."
"See? See? I told you she would be perfect! Not even two hours and she provided a marvelous innovation!" Queen Administrator gushed, her expressed happiness seeming unusually normal. "Thank you for the excellent explanation, Lili! I can have her as a sibling, can't I, Hestia?"
"I'll see you become a host if it's the last thing I do!" ...I don't think Taylor is going to bud any time soon, anyway. That might actually become relevant later on. Still, they get along well, however strangely; QA seemed normal over this!

Hestia stiffened and looked genuinely horrified, as though the concept of exchanging money for Status updates was something utterly foreign to her. It might be; if Queen Administrator was Hestia's first Familia member, that meant the goddess had descended recently. Most gods weren't so overt, but they did still tax their children's income and kicked them out of the Familia if they refused to pay. There did seem to be something else to Hestia's expression, though. She was looking at Lili in a manner the Supporter couldn't quite place. It wasn't the anger; that was clearly aimed at Soma.
This is a curious piece. We see it throughout the chapter, but especially here: Lili too seems to have an atypical perspective. Her perspective is not as outright alien as QA's, but she has a hard time relating to others in some aspects, and certainly holds some very particular views that others likewise might have a hard time understanding. That which is normal to Lili... kind of isn't. That which is normal to others often is not so for her. There's a reason why she gets along so well with the actual, literal alien who sees conflict and manipulation as desirable, for all that they differ in some regards.

And please broadcast your movements more, Administrator, it's clear she's not used to getting hugs.
I get the feeling that this sort of thing is going to become more common. Hestia is already used to explaining the reasons behind "normal" human (and demi-human, I suppose) behaviour for QA, and I think that will only continue for Lili, who herself could certainly benefit for clear communication.

Lili's face twitched as she stopped it from frowning thoughtfully. She needed to keep her mask of false happiness in place; she was no longer sure she'd need it immediately, but she'd always had trouble replacing it after stopping.
That's as disturbing as it is just plain sad. It also makes her fit in alongside QA, but not in a good way. Hestia already noted the similarity, and I don't think Lili's facade is as good as she hopes that it is. Between the shard girl who speaks in monotone and doesn't know how to emote normally and the pint-sized stepford smiler who seems just a little off, the two of them could come off as downright creepy together, especially if they "learn" from one another without realising the other to actually be a decidedly sub-optimal template.

Administrator's possessive reference indicated the rumors about one hiding amid the populace were true. The monarch had indicated she was the one designing them, though. Were the Friends a collaborative effort between Queen Administrator and her Spirit? Administrator for their concept, the Spirit for turning ideas into reality?
Delightful misconceptions. In the know though Lili may be now, there is still much that she none the less does not know, and the secrets just keep growing in magnitude. By the time she actually gets transferred into the Familia, she liable to faint, spontaneously explode, or burst out into disproportionately booming maniacal laughter for what she learns.

"Lili thinks you could make person-based animals!" Lili burst out, feeling genuine excitement for the first time in years. It was clear the others hadn't even considered it and she was proud to raise her own perceived value yet further. "A monster-maker would be scary. Guardians based on the person would be more obviously magical, but in a good way! Lili's could be small and harmless-looking like her, Aiz Wallenstein's swift and gold to match, and you could do the rest later!"
Now this could get interesting. Lili actually being happy to be a part of this aside, she brings up an intriguing idea. Monsters are indeed scary; someone who makes monsters just like the dungeon itself is positively alarming. Spirits are a thing in this world, though, a broad category that basically covers any and all of the supernatural entities of mythology and the setting style who are not dungeon monsters or human/demi-human: salamanders (the fiery kind, not the amphibian), undines, gnomes, or such as featured in canon. Spirits possess magic of their own independently of the blessing of the gods, and can be exceptionally powerful, as evidenced by the crippling of the Crozzo line's iconic crafting ability and the ready acceptance of spirit retribution behind Ishtar's fall. Queen Administrator is believed to hail from some distant land presided over by spirits perhaps quite similarly to Orario itself with its gods; that "spirits" might be found in her company sounds perfectly believable based on what is thought to be known. QA has some mighty guardian spirit watching over her, so if lesser ones show up as well, that's just rather to be expected in hindsight, really. It makes more sense than the idea that QA has the power of the dungon, certainly.

"Lili promises not to tell!" Lili chirped with false cheer, well remembering Administrator's inclination toward homicidal solutions.

They would be of great help in letting Lili get revenge on the Soma Familia. Still, Hestia didn't appear to pick up on Lili's extra motivation and accepted the promise better than she had Lili's now-genuine willingness to join.
I don't think Lili is a reliable narrator here. I think she just didn't notice Hestia to have become accustomed to this sort of thing as the new normal in her life. QA is very particular in her word choice, and Hestia herself is both likewise careful so as to see her understand the meaning desired to be conveyed and quite perceptive of QA's own communication, both verbal and otherwise.

Lili's brow twitched as she kept it from furrowing. That kinda made sense for any Spirit children, but Queen Administrator was human, wasn't she? They didn't have that sort of magic. All spells were difficult without the Falna; there were some that could be managed without it, but they were weaker, more unstable, and had far longer chants. How could human children manage even the smallest magical attack without even being able to talk?
I would just love for Lili to spring this question on QA at some point. QA is bad at lying, probably well aware that denying herself to be human is not at all the right answer, and similarly hesitant to reply for not actually knowing what to say to such a question, which would be all the confirmation that Lili would need that something quite peculiar is going on. Too, human though she looks, that she might be some sort of human-seeming spirit is not an unreasonable suspicion if QA's people supposedly have qualities normally attributed to spirits and happens to look like a human. Lily herself knows better than most that appearances can be false and misunderstood. With how crazy things are around QA, that her people might somehow be some hybrid of human and spirit might also sound reasonable upon consideration, and it's even rather true, actually. Infant humans can't cast magic, but QA's people supposedly can as infants; what does that mean?

All spells were difficult without the Falna; there were some that could be managed without it, but they were weaker, more unstable, and had far longer chants.
I was thinking about this topic just earlier, actually. Falna-based magic is within the Dreamer's grasp, but powerful though it is, it is not the only source of magic in the world, and Aiz just spoke of the topic. I wonder if QA/Taylor might take to emulating the elves as well, or the like. It would be an avenue toward magical healing, after all, which is something important to QA at present.

Lili's plan to burn the Soma Familia to the ground and escape with Cinder Ella hadn't been very subtle, either. And there was a stark contrast between Hestia's possibly-genuine concern and Soma's unrepentant apathy; since Lili had to pick a Familia to manage her eventual vengeance, she might as well choose one that could provide aid and possible companions. Even if the worst was true and Hestia's concern was a lie, Lili now had enough blackmail material to ensure they treated her well regardless.

"Lili is sure. Lili thinks it will be fun!"

…Lili honestly wasn't sure why that declaration seemed to make Hestia more uneasy than reassured. Hestia did remember that Lili was older than she looked, right? She wouldn't run through the house breaking things or any of the other things most children were allowed to do.
Yup. Lili fits in really well... which is precisely what makes Hestia so worried. QA and Lili both want to go scorched earth on the Soma Familia, and Lili thinks that the surreal bizarrity surrounding QA sounds fun. I don't think the age issue is really quite how Lili perceives it, though; maybe Hestia really has forgotten, or maybe she remembers perfectly well, because older than her physical appearance though Lili may be, she does indeed look young, she speaks as though she is young, and a girl of 15 who seems quite childish is not exactly the sort to appear to be a mature adult to an ageless, immortal goddess in any case.

Since so little time has passed in story yet, Hesphaestus hasn't had a chance to pay reparations for Anzo's stunt and the armor that was damaged on the First Floor. It won't be equal, but it'd give them a discount likely if Hestia ends up deciding to make the Hestia Knife or aomething equivalent. Not likely to need to though, what with QAylor's Friends. They could just ask for equipment for Lili instead if they really wanted more for Lili besides her own Friend.
That's a legitimate point, and one that might well come up soon. Lili's gear is... not exactly optimal. Sure, a powerful weapon would be great, but right now, a simple set of basic equipment might be much more appreciated for Lili's needs, and much more likely to be gained in any case. Some meaningful protection and a perfectly ordinary backup weapon would serve Lili better than a legendary blade and no protection at all, and would not be nearly so expensive or likely to see Hephaestus think Hestia to be taking advantage of her.

Shame about Bell though, wish he was in it. He would be the only sane man in the guild, and the sheer wtf of having 2 rookie adventurers competing on who gets to the next level fastest would be mind breaking to every god.
Bell would only be sane by comparison. He may not be a literal alien with a skill explicitly making him outright insane, but his grandfather basically indoctrinated him into the idea of acting like a true hero, to the point of what others would think to be abject irrationality. Bell basically acts like a paladin, and not so much for upholding convictions as simply thinking that behaving so is what he is supposed to do. Girls in need must be saved, because saving girls is what heroes do, not because it's "right", or something. If it is heroic, then that makes it right and proper.

well yes, but she's been downplaying the dimension warping enough that it'd still raise some eyebrows.
She may not be downplaying it enough to avoid some serious concerns. We've already seen one person entertain worries over the strategic implications of such magic; further reminder seeming to prove such worries well-founded could be quite unnerving.

Pretty sure it has no effect on dungeon monsters, since they attack anything that's not from dungeon. And sometime not even then.
It would be something to explore, certainly. I'm also curious if it might improve later on, too; leveling up improves spells, so Level 2 Lili might be able to be all the more creative with her spell. It also might see compounded application, too, in the future. The spells granted by a grimoire is dependent upon the person reading it, for example, so I wouldn't be surprised if Lili were the sort of person to perhaps gain some sort of perception-altering spell for reading from one, and she might see better results for using different spells with overlapping effect. That does also bring up another idea, too, come to think of it: there's at least one magic item that grants invisibility; I imagine that QA/Taylor would be very interested in acquiring something like that for Lili should it be known.

If Dreamer has input on Lili's Friend, how about an homage to the Killer Rabbit?
I think the people of Orario might find that entirely disturbing, actually; that would be quite similar to one of the monster types within the dungeon. The locals know better than to turn their backs to a cute little rabbit, because it might be a vorpal bunny of doom intent on murdering the crap out of them.
 
A straight up Mimic. It doubles as her ridiculously oversized backpack, has Hammerspace capabilities, and is extraneously tentacularrific.

And it can also be a bunny. Because smol.
 
Well, she could make it something like a little bird (Symbolism!) that releases powder from those butterflies that heals or poisons, as well as other useful functions like scouting (maybe it can mimic voices?).
 
A small, exotic, harmless looking Friend that draws traits from its owner. One of Lili's primary identifying traits is her magic, which she uses to be the same person except as a different race, basically putting on a magic hat. You know what this means?



Perfect.

Adventurers are going on adventures. Explorers? They're learning what's out there. Rather significant difference.
Explorers travel into the unknown to learn about it.
Adventurers travel into the unknown to murder it and take its stuff.

Remember kids, 'Adventurer' is just the politically correct way of saying 'murder-hobo' or 'bandit with good publicity'.
 
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I wonder how will they deal with Soma familia, will they outright steal Lily with a curse or will they give her something that she will use to raze Soma familia to the ground. :rofl:
 
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Missing the magic hat, though. Maybe one like this?


source

That might qualify as a Friend on its own, though...
 
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