Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Going by the RPG Sorcerer does seem to be a distinct quality of not-quite wizard, more flexible than Mort or Binder, but lacking the definitive wizard skills like the Sight and a Soulgaze.
It seems like a range to me; Mort is pretty specifically a sorcerer even with his limits. The use it more a catch all for anyone who's good enough at magic to be noteworthy but not a full wizard talent at base than a specific slice of power level. Which is why Lea, fomor mooks, and Binder all get put in the same box. More power tends to come with more flexibility, but doesn't have to.

The original introduction of the term from the books even called out people who polish a small number of spells as qualifying so I think the RPG use is more game rule simplification than anything else.

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Just to include some specifics on what a one trick pony sorcerer can do; per the wiki on Binder's summons he at one point walks straight out of jail and goes to summon hundreds of his minions to deploy on Demonreach.
 
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@DragonParadox Errors. It's that time again..

From before

Dance Macabre
Smiling wasn't easy in the murky depths with nothing but the search lights of the war weavers to break the darkness, but I managed one.
In every other instance this was capitalized.​

a fact I was reminded of in that moment by sudden flash of light up ahead as continuous beams of green-white spellfire carved a path though another mound or rubble to reveal...
Missing "a" after by.

Imagine a tomb, normal kind of Romanesque tomb, alcoves in the wall for lanterns, marble slates lined up to carry the bones, jars of offerings set at the foot of each one. Now imagine everything is covered in blood, fresh blood, like someone had killed a herd of elephants, and it was starting to melt inwards like wax in front of a candle flame
Need period at the end. Also an "a" before normal?

. I look at my blasting rod to see the polish that had been flesh a moment ago start to peel beneath my eyes.
I think this was meant to be "fresh" but flesh also works if a bit poetic.

Now of course if any of you feel like unpicking a life weave where the merest error could kill you are welcome to attempt it."

My eyes darted to not-quite Molly... who was nodding. Nothing was enver easy.
Need a comma after "kill" for this sentence to work as intended.




Liars Alight
"Of your own will descended into into the grave, now know death."
One of the arcane automata tried to blast the the third bastard
Water rushed at him at the Warden's command, drained from the tunnels above by the same passages he had used to break into the tombs. It bound him as he had dozens of others, spinning, twisting. A spiral became a sphere, a dark figure struggling like a worm in its midst.
You totally got this from that one scene in Harry Potter when Dumbledore caught Voldemort in a water ball didn't you?

I'm on to you.

The dead voice spoke in his own mind he he felt his own aura inverting,
dozens of man men as he could only watch on an impotent ghost. He was already dead.
Why looking up at a soaking wet Peabody, still sputtering from his just-failed prison spell.
Needs to be a question mark.

It's just there are a lot of moving pieces and eve though the system isn't as complex as others when you get more than a dozen people in a room casting at each other it adds up. Also for anyone who does not know, Personal Scourge is a very good wizard killer since it inflicts damage pproportional to the victim's Permanent Willpower, in Morgan's case 9, that has to be soaked with Humanity... which in his case is 7, he has seen some shit. Fortunetly
Three errors here. Click to expand if on mobile.




That Fortune Might Favor the Bold
"Is that what the Council is allying with these days.
Needs to be a question mark.

On the other hand as Peabody just proved with Lawbreaker's Lure Warlocks are also dagerous.




Death's Swift Wings
A needle of silver radiance, sharp as the point of her rage stuck the revenant standing farthest back in the eye socket and into the hollowness that animated it.
Lydia lsoes 2 Essence
In the confusion, even she barely saw saw Sophia move,
Given what she had just gone though Lydia was indeed glad of it.
Instead of hurling some spell at the Lydia or one of her allies she tossed what looked like a vial of ink at the ground. It spread in the blink of an eye until the stain, the gate was large enough for a person to step though.
She died in the crosshairs of two War Weavers, the body incinerated no less thoroughly than those of the dead.
Is this Warlock two that was attempting to escape who died? The system text doesn't say so it's hard to tell.




Inside Knowledge
less charitably you had found that secrecy if very much a wizard's sin
"Er... Molly why does you friend sound like she wants to give advice to devils?"
"Given what transpired today would it not make the most sense to consider simple opportunism."
Needs to be a question mark.
 
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@DragonParadox Errors. It's that time again..

From before

Dance Macabre

In every other instance this was capitalized.​


Missing "a" after by.


Need period at the end. Also an "a" before normal?


I think this was meant to be "fresh" but flesh also works if a bit poetic.


Need a comma after "kill" for this sentence to work as intended.




Liars Alight



You totally got this from that one scene in Harry Potter when Dumbledore caught Voldemort in a water ball didn't you?

I'm on to you.




Needs to be a question mark.


Three errors here. Click to expand if on mobile.




That Fortune Might Favor the Bold

Needs to be a question mark.






Death's Swift Wings






Is this Warlock two that was attempting to escape who died? The system text doesn't say so it's hard to tell.




Inside Knowledge



Needs to be a question mark.

Will fix these in a bit, for now vote closed
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Oct 6, 2024 at 11:25 AM, finished with 126 posts and 9 votes.

  • [X] Plan Poison Tongue
    -[X]Never interrupt a villain monologuing when they should be running, try to get information out of the Fallen
    -[X]Tiffany: Flesh 1 + Awakening 3: Heal and disable thrall wizards
    -[X]Molly: Grab phone pouch, disable phone camera and continue conversation as war party continue pursuit
    -[X]Party: Continue pursuit as soon as Tiffany is done
    --[X] STUNT: You snatch up the phone pouch and break the camera in the same motion, taking a moment to rifle through the pockets of the unconscious before making way to Tiffany. "Booby traps are hardly sporting though, Namshiel,"you reply, deliberately pitching your voice in the same urbane cadences that the monster on the line has adopted. "Cool trick with the phone, by the way. " You pause for effect as Tiffany finishes, motioning to your other companions to follow, then continue talking as you pick up the pace."Though you'd think a twenty hundred year old wizard with your advantages would have passed the need to use...trinkets for divination."
    [X] Stab the phone and keep going until you can stab the one on the other end as well
 
Arc 14 Post 44: Beyond Temptation
Beyond Temptation

18th of February 2007 A.D.

You snatch up the phone pouch and break the camera in the same motion, taking a moment to rifle through the pockets of the unconscious before making way to Tiffany. "Booby traps are hardly sporting though, Namshiel,"you reply, deliberately pitching your voice in the same urbane cadences that the monster on the line has adopted. "Cool trick with the phone, by the way. "

"So it is with all small workings," one can practically hear the airy dismissal in his words, but behind them and between them a hiss like a gas escaping through a pinprick. What's he breaking into?

As Tiffany finishes, motioning to your other companions to follow, then continue talking as you pick up the pace."Though you'd think a twenty hundred year old wizard with your advantages would have passed the need to use...trinkets for divination."

"Ah my dear that is where you are wrong, age breeds thrift in word and deed. Ah but I do not need to offer this lesson when you have near as the beat of your heart a companion more ancient and seeped in power than mine own. "Hail Lillake, spirit of the waters, ever changing in form, hail Lilû who wanders the plains like wind, hail Kilili, Queen of the Windows, hail Weaver of Flesh and Midwife of the tyrant two thirds god and one third mortal. You have come again then? This time with fire, this time with sword, this time by the stealth of your Father Who Was Murder?"

"I am not he, I am not they, and yet the words... the words are familiar to me oh Queen Who Knows not rival, like a story I one had told to me in upon a dream most dire. I would listen, listen close."

No power reaches into your mind grasping or twisting, no flame to douse in the endless ocean. Indeed the fire of your essence burns brighter, a secret revealed and you know in that moment that it's not the only one the Fallen had whispered into the ears of its host. The wizards can't hear, the phone's not on speaker. It would cost you nothing but some old bones made into a prophetic alarm clock, not even that reliable to slow down and to listen.

Regained 2 Essence -> Now at 14/18 (Urge of the Forbidden)

Then you would know things about Usum, about your deepest self, that you did not know before. I could lay them down on paper and set my brown to them, pull on the threads of ancient secrets until they reveal what you'd been seeking since that day in summer in the coldest realm. After all hadn't you dealt with the Fallen before and come out ahead? A kind of fallen at least... Like absinthe laced with strychnine.

He speaks not of you, not of Usum for he had been long bound, but of one akin.

Ahead a glass door looms, not artful like the ones in Ancient Mai's chambers, this one looks like it belongs in an airport or a bank secured with all the technology of the twentieth century to add to wards far more ancient, yet past that there is a figure of robed in grey weaving his hands though the air like the limbs of some alien spider, casting from each a tangling line of green.

His back is to you and incogrously a phone is floating next to his head.

"Molly step out of the way," Tiffany says urgently. "On my mark put as much fire as you can conjure down, he can't tap the ley lines here!" And be the Fallen ever so skilled he would be limited to the ability of his host to channel magic, you finish inwardly. Maybe Harry's been rubbing off on her as well, but depending on the nature of the wards behind him it might cause some property damage.

What do you do?

[] Plan 'Fire in the Hole' sounds good

[] Go in first
-[] Write in plan

[] Write in


OOC: How do you slow down an Exalt? Play to their Urge.
 
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Hail Lillake, spirit of the waters, ever changing in form, hail Lilû who wanders the plains like wind, hail Kilili, Queen of the Windows, hail Weaver of Flesh and Midwife of the tyrant two thirds god and one third mortal. You have come again then? This time with fire, this time with sword, this time by the stealth of your Father Who Was Murder?"
Oh I love that. Three pass lives I don't believe we've ever been introduced before and the Midwife of Gilgamesh. This time with fire this time with sword which makes a direct inference to do the abilities and skills of our past lives and this time by the stealth of your father who was murder assumably the stealth of the Ebon dragon.

This was a lot of meaty information I'm glad that the vote included moving because otherwise we'd have been standing still trying to absorb that shit.
 
Oh I love that. Three pass lives I don't believe we've ever been introduced before and the Midwife of Gilgamesh. This time with fire this time with sword which makes a direct inference to do the abilities and skills of our past lives and this time by the stealth of your father who was murder assumably the stealth of the Ebon dragon.

This was a lot of meaty information I'm glad that the vote included moving because otherwise we'd have been standing still trying to absorb that shit.

Your father who was murder, not murdered, for what it's worth.
 
Hatred of the Blackend Denarius, you can have negative intimacies that work like positive intimacies against their enemies.
didn't know we had them listed as hated honestly personally I'd pity them even if I'd take them out back like old yeller. I figure at least some of them are working off sunk cost fallacy in their decision making at this point. Nicodemus at the very least definitely has greater plans than just evil for evil sakes in canon. Given thats coming from an outside perspective from my point.

At least some of the younger denarians are very much redeemable and have doubts or started with real shit circumstances.
 
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Charity Carpenter Love/Resentment
Michael Carpenter Love/Admiration
Harry Dresden Frustrated Crush/Hero Worship

These are those listed on the sheet,
Yeah got too used to seeing that under the intimacy section
Intimacies
Charity Carpenter Love/Resentment
Michael Carpenter Love/Admiration
Harry Dresden Frustrated Crush/Hero Worship

Merits/Flaws
Enemy ● ● (Knights of the Blackened Denarius)
So it was probably Michael Carpenter love/ Admiration. As he is a direct enemy of the Knights of the blackened Denarius.
 
You know I know this is 100% hubris talking and I wouldn't actually do it but a large part of my mind wants molly to grab a coin just so we can get lore and subvert a fallen angel to some degree. Not that I think we're even capable of fucking with their social stats for most of them given for some sure the one that takes control of their hosts is clearly socially retarded.
 
didn't know we had them listed as hated honestly personally I'd pity them even if I'd take them out back like old yeller. I figure at least some of them are working off sunk cost fallacy in their decision making at this point. Nicodemus at the very least definitely has greater plans than just evil for evil sakes in canon. Given thats coming from an outside perspective from my point.

At least some of the younger denarians are very much redeemable and have doubts or started with real shit circumstances.
Oh yeah the humans of the blackened Denarius are definitively pitiable this is before we get into the flesh suit denarians. There's the thing though if you want things and don't mind putting in the work having an angel in your corner really allows you to expend your effort in an insanely efficient manner.

Whether they are good or evil it doesn't matter if they're working off of sunk cost fallacy some because they had a goal in mind when they picked up the coin and if they didn't they definitely had goals afterwards.
 
Oh yeah the humans of the blackened Denarius are definitively pitiable this is before we get into the flesh suit denarians. There's the thing though if you want things and don't mind putting in the work having an angel in your corner really allows you to expend your effort in an insanely efficient manner.

Whether they are good or evil it doesn't matter if they're working off of sunk cost fallacy some because they had a goal in mind when they picked up the coin and if they didn't they definitely had goals afterwards.
I'm 100% sure some coin bearers went into this shit with admirable goals heck some might still have admirable goals and just go about it in fucked up ways. I mean different faction but just look at that necromancer lady totally admirable goals in some sense just you know horrible ideas and fucked up ways to go about it. Very pitiable that shes going through these things for her goals to ease suffering of others.
 
Nicodemus at the very least definitely has greater plans than just evil for evil sakes in canon.
I'm pretty sure Fallen too have greater plans. They just won't pass kicking a puppy along the way.
Not that I think we're even capable of fucking with their social stats for most of them given for some sure the one that takes control of their hosts is clearly socially retarded.
They are something like Second Circle Demons or equivalent in their full power. And while they can't exert this power directly right now I doubt it would be the same if Molly tries to do something to them. Meaning that's Essence 6-7 for most of them with extreme focus, including custom Charms, in their specialization.

I wouldn't want to tango with that if given the choice. Molly may be able to beat them but it's going to be at minimum a battle of equals. Pure power wise. Fallen are still way more experienced.
 
[x] Plan 'Fire in the Hole' sounds good
-[x] Might as well Shadow Spite Curse the host as they do.

Or should we target the Fallen?
 
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I don't think that's even possible. Nemesis can't posses Molly so I don't see a shadow getting shoved into her head if she touched a coin either.
I mean technically thats an active power thats usually up passively so we can turn it off. We could theoretically (no way this would ever happen) let a shadow in and could probably kick it out if we wanted.
 
I mean technically thats an active power thats usually up passively so we can turn it off. We could theoretically (no way this would ever happen) let a shadow in and could probably kick it out if we wanted.
Molly said there wouldn't be any "room". The Nemesis immunity wouldn't be because of an active effect that can be turned off but because the Exaltion is taking up all the space.
 
I'm pretty sure Fallen too have greater plans. They just won't pass kicking a puppy along the way.

They are something like Second Circle Demons or equivalent in their full power. And while they can't exert this power directly right now I doubt it would be the same if Molly tries to do something to them. Meaning that's Essence 6-7 for most of them with extreme focus, including custom Charms, in their specialization.

I wouldn't want to tango with that if given the choice. Molly may be able to beat them but it's going to be at minimum a battle of equals. Pure power wise. Fallen are still way more experienced.
In fairness the shadow is in some ways lesser or limited than the actual fallen and you have to make a deal (maybe not those exact words but basically a deal) with the fallen for the actual entity to inhabit you to some degree in meat space.
 
We could try Mind Hand Manipulation to take coin. But if the coin is hidden under his skin that is likely to be about as hard as ripping someone's heart out using Mind Hand Manipulation.
 
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