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Plus I mean from a quest perspective it may seem a bit fast it's almost been a whole year and we've barely affected the world at large at all. We are never getting to canon plot points at this rate.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Generally speaking you want to spend 1/4 to 1/3 of xp on combat stuff. We have basically spent 80%+ on combat stuff out of around 200xp. 200xp spend is years or more of normal play.
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ehhhh that really depends on what campaign your playing. For gritty ones sure, for campaigns where for example they want to actually accomplish long term change not so much, Then there are the real conquer the universe campaigns.
Edit: Oh not even mentioning the campaigns where you get a handful of exp at the end of an arc. where its basically you buy maybe one small thing an arc.
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fictionfan
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This is a very different situation to a circle of exalted to the point that comparing the two does not feel all that useful. Give a circle of exalted half of our total XP and I expect them to take us to the cleaners well also being able to do so much more non combat stuff.
Because each member of the circle is able to specialize buying things at a discount well counting on the others to cover their weaknesses. Also the circle would have a combined mote pool that dwarfs ours and action economy would crush us.
@DragonParadox : Also don't feel like you need to scale up the enemies to be a combat challenge. City of the BullGod was a great campaign and they didn't have a single fight that wasn't a stomp besides the last big boss battle. And that big boss battle was so boring that I didn't finish the podcast.
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in fairness its not like he needs to scale up there's just so much shit we can fight like yama kings, fallen angels, gods, outsiders etc etc for long game stuff. In the short and mid and heck long term really even senior council members, red king, certain akuma, naagloshi, the more powerful fae that aren't queens, etc etc.
Edit: I hope its not too world of darkness influenced even though it has a lot so far. Such as all the afterlives sucking and ghosts all being the actual souls of people rather than echoes like in canon.
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fictionfan
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We have not transformed yet have we? Should we do that now?
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does it last more than a scene? cause I'm unsure we need to yet?
fictionfan
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Things is that it takes a turn to transform. Then again transforming replaces our normal damage track so it does make sense to fight until we have taken some damage on our first health bar first.
I wonder how it looks when Molly has taken 4 damage getting though ox body? Does she then look normal human healthy or does she walk around with a giant hole though her torso like it's no big deal?
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one of my favorite moments in aswah was when richard got his throat cut open then proceeded to slash down and kill an old (literally not the forest ones) god .
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Shintai lasts for the whole scene, and I advocated to have it up from the start because it takes a full turn to transform, but the argument was that we wanted to wait until the Will was committed before doing the transformation that every supernaturally sensitive being in Chicago could feel the first time we used it. And that won the vote, so we went in untransformed.
As is, it's probably better to wait for our current Excellency to wear off before transforming, but it is as it is. Maybe we'll even crush these guys without Shintai to show off how powerful we are without the superform, but we should definitely bust it out as soon as we are facing actual difficulty.
As is, it's probably better to wait for our current Excellency to wear off before transforming, but it is as it is. Maybe we'll even crush these guys without Shintai to show off how powerful we are without the superform, but we should definitely bust it out as soon as we are facing actual difficulty.
fictionfan
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Mostly because I want a meal and some essanse.
[X] A Shadow is part of the soul is it not? A hunger stirs within (Kill the wayang and try to use Murder is Meat on it)
-[x][Stunt]You jump over your friends in your eagerness to get to the shadow. Not because you want to protect them although you certainly do, but more that you are feeling blood thirsty. No not blood you realize as the fire on your sword eats though the shadow. Soul thirsty.
Not a great stunt, but no one else was stepping up.
[X] A Shadow is part of the soul is it not? A hunger stirs within (Kill the wayang and try to use Murder is Meat on it)
-[x][Stunt]You jump over your friends in your eagerness to get to the shadow. Not because you want to protect them although you certainly do, but more that you are feeling blood thirsty. No not blood you realize as the fire on your sword eats though the shadow. Soul thirsty.
Not a great stunt, but no one else was stepping up.
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spelled through wrong. But, I'll vote for it anyways. time to make molly a little mor evil.
[X] A Shadow is part of the soul is it not? A hunger stirs within (Kill the wayang and try to use Murder is Meat on it)
-[x][Stunt]You jump over your friends in your eagerness to get to the shadow. Not because you want to protect although you certainly do, but more that you are feeling blood thirsty. No not blood you realize as the fire on your sword eats though the shadow. Soul thirsty.
fictionfan
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Has Molly had breakfast? Because I don't think that she is going to need to eat anything else today.
This is not that kind of story, not given who Molly's father is and who his enemies are. Not to mention beings like Mab being around. There is a reason I set it in this universe and not in WoD and I hope you guys will enjoy this journey alongside me.
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in fairness it doesn't need to all be 'level' appropriate some times I hope we have curb stomp battles and sometimes 'level' appropriate ones. Also battles where if we choose to fight we ourselves get curb stomped like if we chose to fight mab for some god forsaken reason as we are right now that would be a curb stomp battle. You okay with that?
Edit: I will keep in mind exalted in world of darkness aren't always curb stomp battles it'd probably take a small army or really really well prepared army of exalted to kill caine or the wyrm or some shit.
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Well they aren't. Do you guys remember the Red Court Vampire you overawed into playing messenger for you, that guys was not 'balanced' in any way it just made sense for him to be there.
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in fairness the group wasn't something we could just curb stomp though it was just an individual of said group. I get what your saying though.
First of all, so far we have spent 95-8+29=116 XP on Molly. Secondly, let's actually calculate how much of that was on combat stuff.
Arc zero we bought By Rage Recast: Transcendent Anathema for 6 XP
Arc one had zero combat purchases (I don't count general purchases like essence increase towards combat)
Arc two had By Rage Recast: Flight for 6 XP, Viridian Legend Exoskeleton for 6 XP, Scar-Writ Saga Shield for 3 XP. By Rage Recast is arguable, since it's general utility power, but ok, let's count it towards combat.
Arc three we only had Athletic 2 for 2 XP which could be counted as combat purchase and even that is arguable
Arc four we bought Qiao 1: Steel Skin for 3 XP, and All Things Betray for 8 XP, and ATB is arguable as a combat purchase.
Finally, in arc five we bought Wind-Born Stride for 8 XP, and Murder is Meat for 4 XP.
So, in total we have spent 6+6+6+3+2+3+8+8+4 = 46 XP on combat related stuff. If we discard By Rage Recast: Flight and All Things Betray from the list as general utility powers, that number drops to 32. So, we have spent 28 % to 40% of our XP on combat abilities. Slightly above 1/3rd of total XP, and certainly not 80%.
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Boiling Sea Mastery is a major deal in combat, though I will admit that that is not its only or primary focus.
Still, difficulty-alterations matter a lot, particularly with the amount of dice we can throw at things.
That's true. But I didn't put it, essence buy, or tool transcending constructs into the calculations because, well, combat is not its main focus. It's a generalist charm.
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any talk about exp reductions a bit annoying when its almost a year old and from a world perspective we've barely done anything and the requirements are just going to keep going up.
I was telling how he is an example of us not needing to be nerfed, did you not…
No, no you clearly didn't.
Not arguing with you anymore, you clearly don't understand both social matters and storytelling if that's your answer.
You can stop arguing with him, he seems completely unable to understand that.
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Imma note @DragonParadox if you want the vote to pick up more or just do something else or do another quest tonight or tomorrow depending on where you live. It's not really going to unless you make a specific comment change much. I'm saying this from the perspective of one of two who voted for the stunt change.or your just doing something else who knows just putting this out there.
She can eat all the MiM-stery meat she wants; that bit of the charm applies to anything we kill even if we don't get essence.