Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Well said. This is what I was expecting to see but everyone was so ready, lmao.

Asking the daughter is a fair idea, but she's clearly in serious distress and we don't exactly have time to explain enough for her consent to really be informed. This isn't a hospital room, it's a first responder situation.

The thornier issue is what that position means in the aftermath.

Real medicine has a practical cutoff, past a certain point dead is just dead. Presumably everyone killed here is in the same boat as this guy though, which means they can theoretically be brought back. If we accept that this is life saving medicine then withholding it without extremely good cause is unethical*. Following that to its natural conclusion it'd be hypocritical to prevent him from doing this later if he can, turning this into the proper birth of a new court as a faction instead of a proof of concept.

Given how special the circumstances are here I wouldn't be surprised if these guys are notably stronger than the base charm suggests they should be. Similar to how Olivia got lots of benefits converting over her mortal exp and traits from her background.

This guy is the first Day Caste of the new era, and this will be the first significant action he takes with that power, He's probably the first one to use this particular charm in any age too since Kindred aren't a thing in this setting. That doesn't smell like a recipe for entry level 15th gens to me.


* The only practical good causes I can see for this are the triage and first responder rules. A doctor has to use their resources in a way that helps as many people as possible, and that can often mean picking who gets help in time to survive.

First responders are also trained not to provide help if doing so would make them a casualty. So not immediately spending all essence on this while in a war zone would generally conform to the spirit of the ethical guidelines even if the result is that some people are permanently lost for whatever reason.
 
Striking a black spark off of her Exaltation, the Abyssal breathes a terrible curse into a corpse she has just exsanguinated with her fangs, dooming it to an eternity of darkness and thirst.
System: After drinking a living person to death with her fangs, the Abyssal may lean over the body before it grows cold, breathe into its open mouth, spend 3 Essence, and roll Willpower against difficulty 8. Success brings the deceased back as a 15th generation clanless vampire (see V20, p. 481). This peculiar form of the Embrace is otherwise subject to all normal Embrace restrictions and peculiarities when the Abyssal attempts to bestow it on supernatural targets.
So... am I reading this right? Nothing here says "the target must be a mortal human". It says "person", so animals are mostly out. But, say, White or Red court vampires might be valid targets. Hell, depending on what counts as living, dragons, angels, and outsiders might count. Fae almost certainly are valid targets. And at least for young red court vampires, this could be a valid way to switch sides.
 
So... am I reading this right? Nothing here says "the target must be a mortal human". It says "person", so animals are mostly out. But, say, White or Red court vampires might be valid targets. Hell, depending on what counts as living, dragons, angels, and outsiders might count. Fae almost certainly are valid targets. And at least for young red court vampires, this could be a valid way to switch sides.
Yeah all the subtext is in the normal Embrace rules the Embrace only works on humans which even in the exalted context bearers of The First Curse still means it only works on humans.

The rules in the Embrace are written in that world of Darkness style so it does say Mortals so at a stretch werewolves and other theriomorphs count but I don't think any fairy does because they're not inherently mortal in any sense if Left Alive they will just persist indefinitely same with Dragons angels and Outsiders.
 
Asking the daughter is a fair idea, but she's clearly in serious distress and we don't exactly have time to explain enough for her consent to really be informed. This isn't a hospital room, it's a first responder situation
Pretty sure we do. Shouldn't take long for Molly or Valentin to elaborate on what help means here and we just burned 2 hours. Calling it a first responder situation is a bit odd since this guy is already dead.

So not immediately spending all essence on this while in a war zone would generally conform to the spirit of the ethical guidelines even if the result is that some people are permanently lost for whatever reason.
I hadn't thought about it much but his max essence is only 3 from the update, this, along with his description of his power earlier, is making me think this guy is going to be largely a paper weight to be accounted for with Proxy Servant Protocol if we fight anything actually dangerous. Not sure it would matter much then, but if he has only 2 left before this that's something to be said. I wonder if he would get any back by turning someone.
 
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Pretty sure we do. Shouldn't take long for Molly or Valentin to elaborate on what help means here and we just burned 2 hours. Calling it a first responder situation is a bit odd since this guy is already dead
The situation is more time sensitive now because we're inside a major fomor fortress we have reason to believe is very much occupied and active. We can't see the enemy yet, but we're basically just inside their front door.
 
Arc 15 Post 95: The Dark Gift is Given New
The Dark Gift is Given

14th of March 2007 A.D.

Perhaps you should step in, speak words of caution as Harry had done to you in Arctis Tor, but this is not Loyd Slate, not a monster punished past his due, this is an innocent, killed and probably more than that. This whole mountain reeks of blood and pain and suffering. Be damned the work of the work of the fomorians, let a new thing be born.

Gained 1 Essence (Violence is Worship)

So it is, a spark struck from that which is not light, a shadow's shadow still powerful enough to turn death backwards for a price. The corpse twitches in the woman's arms as if electrocuted, hands clench into claws and behind those staring eyes a bestial hunger stirs as his daughter gets out and shakes the no longer a corpse's shoulders "Papa! Stanimir! Papa!"

You do not wait to see if his daughter's voice or the sound of his name will wake the man wholly to himself, instead grabbing the woman and pulling her behind you. This at last is enough for her to notice she isn't alone, but your eyes are still on the man. You do not think an entity born of a fresh corpse and three motes of Essence is a threat to you, but graveyards are filled with those who didn't think something was a threat.

"Professor Danielewski it's me..." You can hear the void where your companion's former name would have been, hear him tense like a man who had just dodged a bullet.

"Valentin... Karolina..."

Slowly, painfully, the risk of sudden violence in every breath, every unnecessary breath the three speak in a language Clippy eventually identifies as Polish, though she is still playing catch up on the translation since that was not a language she was expecting to translate during a trip to Egypt.

You gather that the pair had been part of a research team of geologists sent to take seismic readings near the mountain over the past few weeks. Officially they had been lost to a snow storm though your companion had suspected foul play and rightly so. The professor had been growing ever more dissatisfied with his superiors' reasons for the tests they were asking of him as well as irregularities in the company finances that he had stumbled over seemingly on accident when someone had decided to use Karolina as ad hoc IT support.

"Are you well?" The words are awkward and and not just, your years perk up, for the obvious reasons. It doesn't take ears as sharp as yours nor eyes as keen to tell that is the shuffle of someone who wishes to come close but doesn't know how to. That's a complication, but not unmanageably so.

Revelation aside the rest of the story is easy enough to guess at: some high noble of the fomori must have decided to get as much use as they could out of father and daughter and then wring them of their last use as sacrifices. Yet often will dark plans turn awry, they had failed to catch both of them. After days of observing the the 'frogmen' she felt brave enough to sneak in after them. That she had managed to find her dying father after only a day's searching and without being found out herself makes you suspect he might have some undiscovered Talent of her own, but now is not the time to delve into that.

"Hungry... so hungry... what...? What happened?" A twitch goes though him end to end, nothing so natural as a shiver, but almost as if some other thing stirred beneath his skin.

Your companion opens his mouth to open, but you can read the worry on his face. He might know more of what he did than you did, but his exaltation did not gift him a silver tongue.

Molly's Essence: 11/18
Molly's Willpower 6/9


What do you do?

[] Deflect, you need to get both of them out of here, answers will come later

[] Question Karolina further about the 'frogmen' and what they were doing

[] Write in


OOC: Welp the elderly Polish Geologist is now an entirely novel kind of vampire. At least Molly can claim she was not directly responsibile for this one. Progress?
 
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It's probably a bit premature to take him to Sanctuary, and puts him through the Wheel, the vampirism will come off

Do we have enough essence for False Springs Beckon?
 
Just start by having them obey Molly's commands as expedition leader. That will help ease the control and beast issues most likely. Then we'll look for other solutions. I don't think we have any extra essence. Or blood for that matter.
 
Just start by having them obey Molly's commands as expedition leader. That will help ease the control and beast issues most likely.
Molly does not know how likely this is IC as she has no idea what's going on other than spooky death magic with the intention of raising the recently dead. That said the Abyssal is your conceptual peer so she rather suspects that anything he would make would be hard to subjert with anything as simple as Mercy in Servitude.
 
Well, that's interesting, considering how it worked in vanilla, but it's reasonable. Let's hope we can handle it differently. At worst, there are unethical measures like feeding him fomorians, although... That's not really an option either, considering the different effects of blood.
 
Just start by having them obey Molly's commands as expedition leader. That will help ease the control and beast issues most likely. Then we'll look for other solutions. I don't think we have any extra essence. Or blood for that matter.

Mercy In Servitude should do nothing just as it does nothing to WoD vampires.
 
Well, that's interesting, considering how it worked in vanilla, but it's reasonable. Let's hope we can handle it differently. At worst, there are unethical measures like feeding him fomorians, although... That's not really an option either, considering the different effects of blood.
We seem to run into a situation where maggots would useful at least once an arc.
 
People there is Vampire Ice Cream outside this larder. See if it is safe to lick.
 
It shouldn't erase their banes, but I don't see why it shouldn't helpful in a similar way as it is for whamps.

That is to say, help the new vamp control himself in the face of his new hunger.

Because whampires are people possessed by evil spirits, and Mercy in Servitude manages the side effects of being possessed by evil spirits.

WoD vampires aren't people possessed by evil spirits. They're people who've been victims of a transmissible divine curse.
 
WoD vampires aren't people possessed by evil spirits. They're people who've been victims of a transmissible divine curse.
Examples of valid torments include the pain (and associated wound penalties) of injuries or chronic health conditions; a vampire's Clan weakness; a super natural being's susceptibility to frenzy; a derangement of the mind; the drawbacks of a demon's Torment; an ongoing curse laid by a magician; or anything else the Storyteller feels is in line with the above examples.
Sounds like False Spring Beckons ought to work.
 
Because whampires are people possessed by evil spirits, and Mercy in Servitude manages the side effects of being possessed by evil spirits.

WoD vampires aren't people possessed by evil spirits. They're people who've been victims of a transmissible divine curse.
Are you confusing it with our Ancient Sorcery: Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism which outright removes evil spirits and turns White Court vampires normal?
Yeah, that one would not work.

But we do have other options.
 
Molly Essence 8/18
Molly Willpower 5/9


[X] Plan Teamwork
-[X] Proxy Servant Protocol
-[X] All Things Betray
-[X] Equip Venator
--[X] 2 healing potions (2 dot recipes)
--[X] One speed potion
--[X] An electrolaser if we have one in DPM
PSP costs 1
ATB costs 1

down to 10
Gained 1 Essence (Violence is Worship)
up to 11

is my count.
 
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