Fate/Clusterfuck (Fate/Stay Night)

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Patak said:
You've seen Dark Sakura.. but have you seen Dark Rin !?

god i hope not
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Unless the Greater Grail was somehow transferred from Sakura to Rin by Zolken, or Zolken somehow put the mixture of Crest Worms and Grail Mud into Rin without her ever knowing, then Dark Rin isn't a possibility.

Sakura's still doomed however.
 
Erien said:
Why would she be doomed?
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Videogamer921 said:
Because Shirou is more interested in the pig lady and the funny eared lady than her.

This is gonna be her one bad day
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Erien said:
No.
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OBD doesn't apply when you're the host of a God Of Evil that's as old as Gilgamesh. Zolken was never in control once Sakura started manifesting Curses. At best, he could direct the tsunami in a general direction.

With Zolken dead, there only "restraint" is that the dark god within the Vessel is no longer being cultivated. There is no chef at the stove, just a pot left on the fire bubbling and heating, growing ever closer to the boiling point based on the contents and their reactions to heat.
 
Always Late said:
OBD doesn't apply when you're the host of a God Of Evil that's as old as Gilgamesh. Zolken was never in control once Sakura started manifesting Curses. At best, he could direct the tsunami in a general direction.

With Zolken dead, there only "restraint" is that the dark god within the Vessel is no longer being cultivated. There is no chef at the stove, just a pot left on the fire bubbling and heating, growing ever closer to the boiling point based on the contents and their reactions to heat.
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I won't go into details, but you are, and continue to make. Many, many assumptions as to what can and will occur in this sequence of events.

I am not writing grimderp here.
 
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Regarding Sakura since she's been mentioned a lot as a ticking time bomb. I would point out that the main 'trigger', the thing that sent her over the edge, was Rin being involved with Shirou. That isn't happening here, and she's getting help from Archer at the moment, even if she isn't always willing to accept it.

She's not a timebomb, she's a person, she's a tragic person and has her demons to deal with. But she is more than just a walking plot device/bad end. Ya'll will have plenty of chances to help her, if the shadow was going to show up, it would already. This war is a Clusterfuck, but it's not me making the worst thing happen everytime either. There's still many roadbumps to go, and Shirou's mentality has been challenged, and Sakura has danced on the knife's edge. But she has people she can rely on, and she can be helped.

She hasn't been the focus of this story, none of the original 'main' cast truly has. But she hasn't been abandoned either.
 
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Maybe it's not appropriate to post here - and I can edit the post if asked - but since this is a story that has Medea as one of it's main characters I felt this should be shared here.

In a sad turn of events, Atsuko Tanaka, the voice actress who plays Medea, alongside many other characters, has passed away at the age of 61.

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Grahf said:
Maybe it's not appropriate to post here - and I can edit the post if asked - but since this is a story that has Medea as one of it's main characters I felt this should be shared here.

In a sad turn of events, Atsuko Tanaka, the voice actress who plays Medea, alongside many other characters, has passed away at the age of 61.

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It's fine, no worries.
 
Erien said:
Regarding Sakura since she's been mentioned a lot as a ticking time bomb. I would point out that the main 'trigger', the thing that sent her over the edge, was Rin being involved with Shirou. That isn't happening here, and she's getting help from Archer at the moment, even if she isn't always willing to accept it.

She's not a timebomb, she's a person, she's a tragic person and has her demons to deal with. But she is more than just a walking plot device/bad end. Ya'll will have plenty of chances to help her, if the shadow was going to show up, it would already. This war is a Clusterfuck, but it's not me making the worst thing happen everytime either. There's still many roadbumps to go, and Shirou's mentality has been challenged, and Sakura has danced on the knife's edge. But she has people she can rely on, and she can be helped.

She hasn't been the focus of this story, none of the original 'main' cast truly has. But she hasn't been abandoned either.
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IIRC she's in a 'stable' holding orbit in canon in all but HF route because to actually go Dark she has to let down her defenses first.

She doesn't dare hope, so she cannot reach the level of despair needed to awaken as the Black Grail.

Shirou entering a relationship with her lowered her shields, resulting in her paying attention to her emotions and getting in touch with everything she's been repressing, like her hatred for Shinji, her envy at everyone having a nice happy life(but especially Rin) and her self-disgust at having a relationship with Shirou while feeling sullied and knowing Zouken is holding the metaphorical vibrator remote and camera the whole time.

Thats what it took.

Heck, pretty sure Zouken intended for Shinji's face heel turn to do it originally.

Sakura's tough as hell.
Until she dares to hope enough to open the box of repressed emotions, she's stable.
 
Outlining tomorrow,

Rin... may not be making it out of this. But then, such is the life of a Magus.

And hey, for anyone who thinks this is bullying, my favorite character from FSN is Saber. Poor girl.
 
Erien said:
This is simultaneous great and awful for ya eh?
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Nope. Your writing is quality and I'm very used to having the characters I don't like centric to the story. The only thing missing, is people being stampeded over by pigs more often. Otherwise Keep up the good work. (Edit: Basically the story is just great. I have trouble thinking of ways you could improve it.)

👏👏👏
 
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Gah, poor Rin... and honestly, this is probably a fail state for Sakura, too, and at the very least a hefty emotional blow for Ayako. I think we can still pull on through, but the ultimate ending would be more bitter than sweet.
 
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    [Go after Rin]
    You were going to get to the bottom of her actions, you were going to get Taiga back. You didn't give a damn about what Raiga wanted. To be honest, you didn't care what Rin wanted either.

    Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead. So begins the end of the Fuyuki arc.

    Thanks to @Armoury for the beta!

    —

    You don't even have to think about it, it's not a question to you. The monster is still rampaging, it is still hurting people. But Rin has taken Taiga. There were no other options, there is no alternative, no backup plan. You were going to get her back. Raiga could do whatever he wanted, you were doing this. "We're going after Rin, we're getting my sister back."

    "And… what are you going to do to Rin?" Ayako asks.

    "Keeping her alive is the easiest way to protect Taiga, and she… or her servant, is currently holding Taiga hostage." You look at your girlfriend. "I won't kill her unless I have to, beyond that, I can't promise anything."
    "If… if you have to!? What kinda thought process is that?! You can't just get her killed!" Ayako half shouts, half screeches.

    "You're thinking like a human," you reply deliberately quietly… and tiredly for that matter. "You can't, not here."

    "You're a human!" Ayako says, grabbing your shoulders. "Did you change when I wasn't looking!?"

    You stare at her, you wonder… Do you look like Kiritsugu at the moment? "I'm a Magus, and so is Rin. We are separate from humanity, and most Magus as a whole care little for them. Rin has already killed at least one innocent person, endangered many, and is now putting Taiga at risk. Taiga isn't a Magus, she got involved in this when she saved," you raise a finger to point at the comatose Sakura. "Her life, Sakura, who is currently comatose because of Rin's servant's actions." You lower the hand. "She attacked me in broad daylight, she caused someone to be killed. She has hurt others. She isn't human, she's a Magus, and I have to treat her as such. She's no different than Shinji was."

    "You… you can't really mean that?"

    "Why can't I?" you ask. "You'd be fighting her if she threatened your family. You…" You stare at Ayako for several moments, saying nothing. "You can't save everyone."

    "He's not wrong," Caster says, and you look at her. Medea is… Medea is looking at you with genuine pity in her eyes, more emotion than she ever bothered to show publicly before beyond anger and worry.

    You sigh again, this is just wasting time. "Ayako, can you stay here and look after Sakur-"

    "No." Ayako hisses. "Rin's my childhood friend, and I'm going, and you'd have to fight to stop me."

    "Fine." You really didn't feel like arguing at the moment.

    —

    You almost made it outside when you heard his voice. "Mr. Emiya, are you going after that monster of yours?"

    You pause at the threshold, then turn your head to look at Raiga standing by the doors to his office. Sakura is still out of it, having been deposited in her room by Archer who is now looking over her. That 'only' left you with Medea, Circe, Illya, Rider, Ayako, Fujimaru and Shielder. Illya for her part is rather excited about all of this, Fujimaru has said little, and Shielder seemed to be in a perpetual state of 'determined nervousness'.

    "No, I'm going after Taiga," you reply. Staring up at the man who for many years you had considered a second father.

    He is staring down at you, flanked by two of his men on the upper balcony. "I do believe Mr. Emiya, we just had a conversation about that. I've had clients of mine on standby now for the past week, and they are already in position."

    "My apologies, I'm sure they are quite expensive, and… you've been very kind to me over the years Raiga. But you aren't my father, and you cannot give me orders. My father died when I was very young, both of them did." You shake your head. "I'm not going to lose my sister too, not while I'm still capable of fighting for her."

    "If you do this, you won't ever be welcome back in this house. You understand this boy?"

    You smile, genuinely. "You have been very kind to me Mr. Fujimura, and I only hope someday I can repay you. But… this is something I have to do."

    You see the corner of Raiga's lip twitch slightly upwards, then he turns and walks back into his office. You watch him go, then you are gone as well, possibly for the last time.
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    It is… a hotel highrise, one of those fancy ones that have marble lobbies and more fountains than necessary. It isn't much taller than the buildings around it, but then, in this part of Fuyuki, all the buildings were quite tall regardless. You have been walking towards the entrance when you felt a brush against your shoulder, and heard Medea speaking in your ear even though you couldn't see her. "Master, someone has put a perception filter over the entrance… non-magi would ignore the building."

    "Rin's doing?" you ask.

    "Possibly."

    You nod your head, then keep walking. The only people around you now are Ayako, Illya, and Fujimaru, the rest are invisible, having slipped into spirit form so as to not draw attention. Mordred, for her part, was staying back at the mansion for now… too much of a loose cannon. Ayako draws gazes regardless due to what she is wearing, but there is only so much you can do there. You press on the glass and step through, into the…

    "What…" You start.

    "Someone's been busy~" Illya says in a singsong voice, head peeking around your hip to gaze into the interior.

    White pillars, black marble floor, no less than two fountains and a bar. It is the picture of glamor and wealth that made up much of downtown Fuyuki. It is also, you note, filled with sprawled about, unmoving people. None of them were in unnatural positions, those on chairs and sofas were merely slumped to the side, the rest were… just fallen to the floor. Bags, suitcases and clothes lay strewn about, and the air is rich with the scent of spilt coffee. Only three people are standing, and all three of them are standing next to the elevator… and all three of them are staring at you as you enter.

    The first man, farther to the left of the elevator is a man, tall, wearing a leather jacket and jeans. He has slicked black brown hair, sunglasses, and his face is covered in jagged scars. To his left is… a woman with shoulder length red hair, red eyes looked at you curiously through clear glasses, she is wearing little more than a simple white shirt and orange jacket and pants. All are smoking except the last, and the last one is the closest.

    And it's…

    It's…

    "Mr. Souichirou?" you ask.

    Kuzuki was a tall man, stern, and didn't talk much outside of class. But he was kind enough, though you knew him little. He is a teacher at Homurahara Academy, though not one you interacted with all that often.

    "Mr. Emiya." Kuzuki responds with a small nod of his head. He opens his mouth again to speak, only to pause, his eyes quickly shifting to something over shoulder.

    "Miss Mitsuzuri, what… are you wearing?"

    "I… I don't want to talk about it." Ayako replies.

    Kuzuki stares at Ayako for several moments, his expression not changing… you've never seen it change no matter the circumstance. Then he looks to Illya, to Fujimaru, and then to you. It isn't curiosity in his gaze in the slightest.

    "Why are you here?"

    "I'm here to talk to Rin," you say, then take a step forward. "Did you…" You look around at the people, they were all breathing, but none were really moving. "Hurt these people?"

    The scarred man by the elevator blows out a long stream of smoke from his cigarette, it doesn't hang like normal smoke should, it falls down to the ground like a heavy gas before disappearing. "Just sleeping. We're only here for the girl."

    You keep your gaze focused on Kuzuki, he is the only one you know here. "Rin is holding Taiga hostage, and we have no guarantee of getting her back without me talking to her first. She did all this so she could speak to me."

    "That so?" the scarred man asks. "Could have just sent a letter."

    The woman, who this entire time has been staring at you and only you. Lowers the cigarette from her mouth and idly flicks her finger against the end of it, sending ash down onto the polished floor. Her other hand moves, revealing a small suitcase. "You're Shirou Emiya right?"

    You nod your head.

    "Son of Kiritsugu Emiya?"

    "Adopted." You reply. "Why?"

    The scarred man lifts his sunglasses, staring at you with squinted, blue eyes. "Huh," then he lowers them again, taking another drag from his cigarette. "I was wanting to finish this cigarette anyway, go on ahead."

    "Those are not our orders." Souichirou says, looking back. It isn't accusatory, or even questioning, just a simple statement of fact.

    "Isn't our orders to stop him either," the scarred-man replies. "Besides, he's an Emiya, they're all fucking batshit."

    You want to question him on that, and the woman, but you don't have time for that at the moment. Any second you waste, is possibly a second where Taiga's life is in danger. So instead you merely nod your head and step past your teacher, making your way to the elevator. The woman continues to stare at you as you wait for it to come down, then gives what you… assume to be a friendly wave as your assembled mass gets onto it and rides to the upper floors.

    "Shirou… who were they?" Ayako asks.

    "No idea," you reply honestly, watching the numbers tick by on the elevator. "I'm just happy we got here before they got to Rin. Caster… is Souichirou a mage?"

    "Not that I could tell," Caster's voice replies. "The other two were though."

    "One smelt of death and decay," Circe's voice replies from elsewhere. "The other smelled like nothing but tobacco."

    "Well, hopefully they stay willing to wait," you say, then step through the doors of the elevator as they open again on the 40th floor. Rin has the penthouse suite, she's the only door on the floor. You walk across the short hallway, reach the door, and without a moment's pause you rap your knuckles on it.

    There's silence for several moments, then a shuffling, then it opens to reveal…

    Rin, surprisingly, you expected to see her Saber, or a magic spell. But instead it's Rin, a Rin who looks… remarkably more tired than you had ever seen her. She was covered in cuts and scrapes hastily bandaged, her eyes had deep purple bags, and she looked absolutely miserable.

    For a brief moment you nearly reached out to her, to ask her what was wrong, but your purpose takes over. "Rin. You wanted to talk?"

    She blinks, once, twice, then her eyes widen rather dramatically. "Wait… Shirou!? How…" She blinks again, then straightens up. "What are you talking about?"

    You reach into your pocket and produce the phone.

    Rin's eyes flit to it, her expression of dignified confusion turning into regular confusion quickly. "How'd… how did you get that?" then she looks past you, her eyes widening further. "Ayako… why are… what are you wearing!?"

    You feel more than see Ayako dip behind you to hide. "It was thrown through my window, where I met BB, where she kidnapped Taiga and made Sakura comatose."

    Rin's eyes flit back to you, and… she still looks confused. "Taiga? Wait, who's BB?"

    "Your servant has kidnapped Taiga, are you saying this isn't your doing?" you ask.

    "I have no idea what you're talking about!" Rin half shouts, half growls. "You just came here out of nowhere with… who the heck are all these people?!"

    "Backup," you reply simply. "In case."

    "In case what?" Rin asks, crossing her arms. "I'm not going to just… attack you."

    "So that attack on the edge of town was just how you say hello then? An innocent person died Rin."

    "You think I wanted to!? I was trying to deal with your servant, and it's your servant that destroyed my house!" Rin screeches. "I can't help people getting in the way of all this!"

    You open your mouth to retort, then you hear it, a familiar jingle.

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    You're back in that odd… cubed… place. Though this time you're standing. It's the same room you appeared in originally, only this time… Fujimaru is standing right beside you with Shielder, and Rin is right in front of you, in the exact same position she had been a moment before.

    A laugh without mirth sounds out over the area, and you look up to see BB floating in the air roughly the size of a building. One hand was propping up her chin, the other was holding a noose, a noose wrapped around the neck of a doll that roughly looked like Taiga.

    "Hello Rin~" BB greets with a singsong tone.

    Rin looks around in confusion for several moments before jerking around to look at BB. "Shirou, where is thi-"
    "He had nothing to do with this," BB says, now standing just in front of Rin with a flash of light. BB then tilts her head, raising a finger to poke her lip, the other now swinging the Taiga doll around by the noose in a wide circle. "Well, I suppose he did. I asked him to come by and speak to you, and he was a very good boy who promised he would."

    "Who… who are you?" Rin asks.

    "BB," the Sakura-look-alike replies. "Or your phone… oh, what did you call it? Ah yes. 'Artificial Assistant' was what you called me. You were much too stupid to realize you were talking to a servant I suppose."

    Rin recoils, taking several steps back. "You were…"

    "Yes." BB replies, teleporting behind Rin and leaning close to her ear.

    Rin yelps and leaps forward, spinning around to face the grinning BB.

    "You asked me so many questions when you found I could respond, but you never questioned that. Too stupid to realize that little niggling voice suggesting you seek the aid of that Church NPC wasn't your own in your dreams, too stupid to realize that Shirou hasn't been hunting you." BB laughs, and she laughs hard and ugly, hands wrapping around her stomach as pure joy erupts from her. "You thought I was some form of 'assistant'! You're stupid in every universe."

    "BB." Fujimaru says, "Stand down."

    The laughter ceases like someone flipped a switch, and BB looks at Fujimaru with a perfectly flat expression. No, that wasn't entirely true, her mouth showed nothing, her eyes showed everything. Pure, raw, disgust. "Master master master… I simply came along so I could meet the original 'me', and frankly, I'm disappointed. Aren't I due some recompense for that, and besides." Her eyes flit to Rin, and the smile returns. "An opportunity to torture Tohsaka… why that's just too good to give up."

    "But now." Her pointer stick appears in her hand, "for the point of all of this." She points to Rin. "Dear Tohsaka has been in such tears lately, oh she cries every night, wailing and sobbing, lamenting the life of a Magus." BB rolls her eyes. "And she was so proud until cute widdle Shirou said he was gonna kill her."

    BB snorts, then looks at you. "She didn't even hesitate when the priest said what was going to happen to her servant, she just wanted power so she could get back at you for your servant destroying her dinky little house." She raises a hand. "Mind and free will of that servant gone," she snaps her fingers. "Just like that."

    Then BB is gone, and she reappears, floating over the landscape again. "So, I thought I'd make her feel aaaaall better by summoning her precious little Shirou so he could talk to her, and now he has. Of course," BB looks down at Rin with an unkind grin. "He didn't do this for you, he did this because I have Taiga in my possession." BB holds out a hand, dangling the Taiga doll. "Now, you two are free to talk as much as you want but… well. I've found I'm not overly fond of Shirou, but I'm fond of you Rin even less. So my offer is simple."

    BB's eyes then flick to you. "If you want Taiga back?"

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    "Then just kill Rin!" BB says with glee. "End her life, and you can have your precious Taiga back. I'm bored of her, she's far too stupid." Then you hear her voice whisper in your ear. "And… don't think about your servants, they are currently busy dealing with her Saber." An image flashes in front of you, Rin's apartment on fire, Medea and Circe casting spells at a figure dressed in black, then it's gone.

    You turn around to see BB standing there, hands on her hips. "It's a nice double deal isn't it? You kill her, no more servant, your friends are safe." Then she's gone again, appearing in the sky once more, and you slowly turn your head to look at Rin.

    …

    She is looking at you, and gone was the fierce, determined girl you have known, gone was the school idol. She looks… scared. "S-Shirou?"

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