Fate/Clusterfuck (Fate/Stay Night)

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Dopplerdee said:
[X] [Go after Rin]

Both are bad choices but Killing Taiga leads to Emiya Alter. Leaving her isn't killing her but it's close enough to shatter Shirou.
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Not really. Killing her (im assuming you meant Rin) would not be the decision of a machine, but of a man who wishes to protect his family.
I agree with you that leaving Rin to Raiga and focus on the Monster will help for the Emiya Hero of Justice bad ending.
But killing Rin would actually be VERY Personal, not a selfless action for the greater good but just straight revenge against someone who wronged your family members.
 
LJ-Yusei said:
Not really. Killing her (im assuming you meant Rin) would not be the decision of a machine, but of a man who wishes to protect his family.
I agree with you that leaving Rin to Raiga and focus on the Monster will help for the Emiya Hero of Justice bad ending.
But killing Rin would actually be VERY Personal, not a selfless action for the greater good but just straight revenge against someone who wronged your family members.
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Not Rin, Taiga. Emiya Alter happens when he kills Taiga reflexively after she trys to shoot him.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Erien on Aug 17, 2024 at 8:49 AM, finished with 84 posts and 40 votes.
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The vote is locked. The route is chosen. This is the final route vote for Shirou.
 
Once this thing is over, can we get a rundown on what our alternate routes could have been? Divergence points and such?
 
F.I.M.M.98 said:
BB Is punishing Rin for the phone, found Sakura dissapointing, Shirou boring and called Taiga an NPC

I think this BB Is serious regarding her dislike for Humans
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In a game sense, Taiga is an NPC. :V Here, in FSN proper, and in BB's home series, she's an NPC.

BB is supposed to dutifully serve humans as she hates them. It's a shame, the modern Internet must've corrupted her into a right-wing school shooter type like the modern world of 2004 turned Gilgilman into a giant golden cock :V
 
Erien said:
Adhoc vote count started by Erien on Aug 17, 2024 at 8:49 AM, finished with 84 posts and 40 votes.
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I admittedly had wanted to ask if a compromise would've been possible, with Shirou sending Fujimaru and Mash along with Raiga; I didn't though because I saw the way the vote was going and also didn't want to complicate things or even whether it was my place to ask.

My logic here is that BB is (was?) Fujimaru's servant so there could've been some sort of exploitable connection there. I do assume that Ritsuka will be coming along though for this so that could still be the case.
 
Grahf said:
I admittedly had wanted to ask if a compromise would've been possible, with Shirou sending Fujimaru and Mash along with Raiga; I didn't though because I saw the way the vote was going and also didn't want to complicate things or even whether it was my place to ask.

My logic here is that BB is (was?) Fujimaru's servant so there could've been some sort of exploitable connection there. I do assume that Ritsuka will be coming along though for this so that could still be the case.
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There was no option for a write in, so it was not an valid vote.

Either way, doubt Raiga would have accepted. He seemed to want to try and do things his way, is something he is more experienced in. This became a matter of honor by kidnapping Taiga.

Many of us voted for going to Rin because Raiga doesn't have many chances to win, unless he has something that can eliminate her Servants reliably, something I doubt he has.

What I think would happen is that Raiga surrounds Rin with his men in other to force her to release Taiga in exchange of freedom, maybe not releasing information about her family, or something like that, idk. (If Rin is in a corner, it may be what she needs to just throw her morals to the wind at last and use Saber against them.)

The other option is that Raiga pulls a page from Kiritsugu's book and uses one of those Origin Bullets, if he has them, to attack Rin in hopes to end the Servants with that also. (I don't know if those things even work on Servants, but if Rin is taken out, her Servants will most likely kill Taiga and everyone else on the area, then they may go to Kotomine.)
 
Ferb_Ancos said:
There was no option for a write in, so it was not an valid vote.

Either way, doubt Raiga would have accepted. He seemed to want to try and do things his way, is something he is more experienced in. This became a matter of honor by kidnapping Taiga.

Many of us voted for going to Rin because Raiga doesn't have many chances to win, unless he has something that can eliminate her Servants reliably, something I doubt he has.

What I think would happen is that Raiga surrounds Rin with his men in other to force her to release Taiga in exchange of freedom, maybe not releasing information about her family, or something like that, idk. (If Rin is in a corner, it may be what she needs to just throw her morals to the wind at last and use Saber against them.)

The other option is that Raiga pulls a page from Kiritsugu's book and uses one of those Origin Bullets, if he has them, to attack Rin in hopes to end the Servants with that also. (I don't know if those things even work on Servants, but if Rin is taken out, her Servants will most likely kill Taiga and everyone else on the area, then they may go to Kotomine.)
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That implies Raiga knows how to use Origin bullets effectively. Does he know he has to push Rin to her max magical output to ensure the bullets do the maximum damage? Does he even have the Contender? The gun itself is a Mystic Code. Would it even activate for Raiga? If anything, I could see Shirou heading to the house first to look for the gun, then using it himself if necessary.
 
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    • I hope we get another Vote to decide if we're gonna try to stop Raiga from killing Rin. Since i think this is not really the reason people are choosing this option. Its less "Go after Rin" and more "Save Taiga"
     
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