Fate/Clusterfuck (Fate/Stay Night)

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Adhoc vote count started by Erien on Aug 31, 2024 at 3:50 PM, finished with 125 posts and 34 votes.
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The die has been cast, and the dove of peace is slain, the olive branch withers, and naught but iron remains.

At the very least, whatever happens next is going to be 'fun', and be a clusterfuck
 
Ferb_Ancos said:
Honestly, I hope Taiga comes out of this alive of mind, body and spirit.
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had it been anyone else, Taiga's EX luck would have already made things easier for us. Unfortunately, it's BB, but I'm still hoping it would influence the outcome in a positive way

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Fate/Zero material - Encyclopedia: Fujimura Taiga [Person's name], p.103

Taiga Fujimura [Person's name]
The secret heroine of Fate/Zero. One fateful winter day, a cask of extremely high-quality wine was stolen from the liquor store run by the family of one of her classmates. In response, she took up her Tora-Shinai and gallantly dashed out into the nighttime Fuyuki, where bizarre murderers and urban guerrillas ran rampant. Despite the danger, she actually accomplished quite a lot, with her list of heroic deeds ranging from catching an underwear thief to saving a lost puppy. And due to the butterfly effect, her furious charge through town also prevented a devastating earthquake, enshrined a sea god, and even caused a huge asteroid on a collision course with Fuyuki to vanish without a trace. But though she averted disaster after disaster at a frightening pace, sadly, this epic saga can only be deciphered by reading between the lines with spiritual vision.
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Ferb_Ancos said:
Honestly, I hope Taiga comes out of this alive of mind, body and spirit.
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I mean, we voted not to care about that, so...

Don't get me wrong, I obviously want Taiga to live. But we've literally voted to ignore that risk, summon a living bulldozer, and ask for combat advice against the semi-god who holds her life in her hands. I will be deeply surprised and a little underwhelmed if she survives.
 
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Future plans
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    • Also, since I've received notes about it.

    There will be significant downtime between the HGW and the GHGW. Sauron is coming, but he's scouting. So plenty of time for training, character 'sidequests' and the like.

    Yes that means more Medea content. Quest doesn't end with Sauron gone anyway, there'll be quite a few post quest chapters and then epilogue.
     
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    • Revlid said:
    I mean, we voted not to care about that, so...

    Don't get me wrong, I obviously want Taiga to live. But we've literally voted to ignore that risk, summon a living bulldozer, and ask for combat advice against the semi-god who holds her life in her hands. I will be deeply surprised and a little underwhelmed if she survives.
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    One of the key messages of Fate is "Know when to be balls-to-the-wall insane". The other is, "Never give in to the cruel whims of someone acting like a god, you'll just get turned into a Grail".
     
    Always Late said:
    He's alive to remember all of it. He's alive to be broke, homeless, and get the shit beaten out of him every day.

    Sometimes, you just have to make like a 40s interpretation of a Samurai.
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    I'm pretty sure Sakura took him back in? He's still one of the smartest, most studious persons his age in fuyuki, now with suffering to build character and a slice of humble pie from Cu baby stabbing him with his spear and the embarrassment of running away screaming like a bitch? It's distinctly a step up from having his face eaten by heaven's feel sakura and pulverized by Berserker.
     
    Videogamer921 said:
    The die has been cast, and the dove of peace is slain, the olive branch withers, and naught but iron remains.

    At the very least, whatever happens next is going to be 'fun', and be a clusterfuck
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    Not through speeches and majority decisions will the great questions of the day be decided but by iron and blood
     
    Randino Treviani said:
    I'm pretty sure Sakura took him back in? He's still one of the smartest, most studious persons his age in fuyuki, now with suffering to build character and a slice of humble pie from Cu baby stabbing him with his spear and the embarrassment of running away screaming like a bitch? It's distinctly a step up from having his face eaten by heaven's feel sakura and pulverized by Berserker.
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    No? That's literally the opposite of his character: Inferiority. He's never good enough. Every one else is better than him. He sets his sights on impossible goals and never succeeds. It's why he's always creeping on girls and abuses Sakura: He never scores with/gets more attention than the popular girls so he takes his frustration out on the one thing he can control.

    Shinji Matou is The Worst of a line of pure evil: A fucking Incel.
     
    Always Late said:
    One of the key messages of Fate is "Know when to be balls-to-the-wall insane". The other is, "Never give in to the cruel whims of someone acting like a god, you'll just get turned into a Grail".
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    I don't think "row row fight da power" is actually a key message of Fate/Stay Night, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

    In the canonical event paralleling this one, where Taiga is held hostage by Caster in exchange for Shirou's submission and co-operation, the "correct" path is not to submit to her (you will be turned into a living magical battery for Saber) or to fight her (she will kill Taiga), but to refuse to submit yourself and instead bargain away your rights as a Master. This is the whole scenario that sets up the penultimate conflict inside the temple with Caster, Kuzuki, Archer, etc.

    In fact, the original VN has a lot of righteous, reckless, head-on fight options available. Most of them will simply get you killed before Taiga and Illya call you a dumbass.

    Always Late said:
    No? That's literally the opposite of his character: Inferiority. He's never good enough. Every one else is better than him. He sets his sights on impossible goals and never succeeds. It's why he's always creeping on girls and abuses Sakura: He never scores with/gets more attention than the popular girls so he takes his frustration out on the one thing he can control.



    Shinji Matou is The Worst of a line of pure evil: A fucking Incel.
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    I'd say that an inferiority complex is not the same as inferiority. Shinji is intelligent, attractive, and reasonably popular. It doesn't matter, because he grew up in a house with a worm monster wearing a grandfather's face (and another worm monster pretending to be a helpless little girl) who taught him exactly how much all of that was worth; nothing, because he's not a Magus and never will be. Rin's an attractive girl who spurns his advances, yes, but that's only part of why he hates and desires her - she's everything he wants to have. She's a Magus, she's the head of her family, she lives alone and can be self-assured without two monsters shadowing her every footstep... Her rejecting him - not just as a romantic partner, but later on as a potential ally in the Grail War - is an affirmation of his low self-worth in that specific regard, and he takes it as a judgement that he's nothing because he's not a Magus. And a Magus is powerful, ruthless, above other people, etc.

    If he got over his deep, deep issues with not being a Magus, Shinji would be... basically fine? Kind of a jerk, but not a dysfunctional wreck. In the Fate/Extra timeline he's believed to have been one of EMIYA's accomplices - you can see them working together in a piece of flashback art.
     
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    Erien said:
    Also, since I've received notes about it.

    There will be significant downtime between the HGW and the GHGW. Sauron is coming, but he's scouting. So plenty of time for training, character 'sidequests' and the like.

    Yes that means more Medea content. Quest doesn't end with Sauron gone anyway, there'll be quite a few post quest chapters and then epilogue.
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    Are we talking about Sauron from lord of the Rings or whats going on??? I feel like I've missed something.
     
    NathanHale117 said:
    Are we talking about Sauron from lord of the Rings or whats going on??? I feel like I've missed something.
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    Sauron got summoned at the wizard headquarters, and all the magus got way too into him because he was hot and nice or something.

    Currently the headquarters is metaphorically and literally on fire.

    So we're going to have to punch him in the face after this grail war gets wrapped up
     
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    Erien said:
    Outlining tomorrow.

    Do you feel like a hero yet?
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    Generally speaking, you only really become a hero when other people recognize you as such, since calling yourself a hero is a bit self-serving and arrogant. Or in this case, you know for sure if you're a hero if you died and make it to the Throne of Heroes.

    Otherwise, hell if I know. Still, some of the greatest heroes in Fate both suffered a lot and did some major f*ck-ups, so maybe Shirou is on to something here...
     
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