I am not sure, the way it was presented I figure it was Yggdrasil showing it to us rather then Verg remembering but I could be wrong.
Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)
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[X] Embrace the memory.
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So I had a thought on a possible jogress form that Verge and Sparks can take after Sparks lost his fire data from evolving into a Wisemon, if Verge evolve into GrapLeomon or any other Beast Man Ultimate, they could possibly form Jupitermon as their jogress form.
My reasoning for this is simple, Aegiochusmon is based on a satyr or a half man and half goat, or a Beast Man in other words. GrapLeomon uses winds from his turbines to supplement his attacks, so it could be said that GrapLeomon has a wind or Sky affinity.
Finally Sparks signature attack and the one he uses most often is the spell Greater Sparkling Thunder, which he learned from Gramps, implying an affinity with lightning.
Put all of this together and you get a recipe for a certain Olympos XII member, the fact that they already jogressed into an Olympos XII Ultimate is also a plus.
My reasoning for this is simple, Aegiochusmon is based on a satyr or a half man and half goat, or a Beast Man in other words. GrapLeomon uses winds from his turbines to supplement his attacks, so it could be said that GrapLeomon has a wind or Sky affinity.
Finally Sparks signature attack and the one he uses most often is the spell Greater Sparkling Thunder, which he learned from Gramps, implying an affinity with lightning.
Put all of this together and you get a recipe for a certain Olympos XII member, the fact that they already jogressed into an Olympos XII Ultimate is also a plus.
That and as much as people like to simply declare it in the past the majority of our squads Ultimate evoltions have come about either after experiencing something related to somethings past life influence(Beat), wanting to rescue someone deer to said past life(Pit), or even confronting and overcoming the past life in question (Sparks) so while you aren't who your past life was it still holds quite an influence in the now. This quest is titled inheritance after all not blank slate.
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If Verg does get as big a boost as people theorise when he digivolves I wonder what the our friends and the Host's reaction will be.
drexal15
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Oh man, you have no idea. He's been arguing on Verge's behalf behind closed doors for months. Upon hearing that Verge digivolved (when it does happen at least) internally he'll basically be going:
"Hah! I told you! I fucking told all of you that he's going to be another Mega-level asset! But oh-no you sonsabitches didn't want to listen because he's a bit weird. Well Hah! Hah! Hah! Hah!"
But yeah, 10/10 there Vanargand.
Ardat: "... where did all your fluff go? But you're still cool!"
Pit: "Happy congratulations on your evolution friend Verge! The Lord has blessed you with an incredible boon this day!"
Sparks: "Oh heck yeah! Now Count doesn't stand a friggen' chance!" Or. "Ya couldn't have digivolved a little sooner? We coulda killed that jackass a lot friggen' quicker if you'd just done that earlier."
Beat: "..." (Internally: "Goddamnit I've fallen behind again?!" *Proceeds to train intensely*)
Drunky: "... I don't have enough booze for this."
HippoGriffomon: "Wark!"
I didn't expect things to get this big with the vote honestly. That said, I've been prepared for both outcomes since before putting them forth. It'll also be wholly possible for Verge to purposefully never fully reconnect with his past. Though elements will be showing up whether he likes it or not.
As for setting this right after the Sparks thing? Hehehe, no comment.
Verge wouldn't have the agility or proper data composition for that. Grademon is one speedy boy.
Heh.
The *official* story is that Daemon killed him during his and Seraphimon's fight at the Great Arena.
Which is assuming he is trying to make Verge remember. Instead of ya know... just asking if his past life's name rings any bells. Most mon really don't get Verge-style flashbacks unless it's something really crucial involving a universal power. Like Pit (with Daemon's strong ego) and the lower of love towards his daughteru.
Hehehe. Indeed it was. Lou has been brought up as well but... well it's not what one might think. It has to do with another franchise entirely.
Assuming he is the source of the leaks that is.
NGL. That is awesome.
Sadly a full recovery is still very far away. Though this may jog some stuff loose.
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This is by far the most voters I've ever gotten on a subject. Which is amazing! Let's see who's winning, shall we?
Edit: Aaaaand we have a winner. Embracing the memory has pulled ahead by a clear majority!
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Sooo... Is there a particular reason why we should follow that order? I'm just saying, if this mission goes off, we don't need the Host anymore, they aren't giving us any support and it is kind of a major dick move to not tell Pit anything, especially since there is a good chance someone on the squad is going to die when we go up against Count. He'd beat himself up about that for the rest of his life.
Hmhm. I guess it wouldn't be particularily nice to HolyAngemon, but i don't like him anyways and i don't think Verge does either.
We can't actually contact Pit and trying would be more trouble than its worth.
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Thing is if this gets out, and there is no doubt that it will. Ophanimon will want all of our heads, HolyAngemon included, and we'll most likely have an entire faction that wants us very dead. Best case scenario, massive demotions, and being kicked out and banned from host controlled territory.
Plus as Undead frog mentioned, it'll be unbelievably hard to contact him in the first place.
Grademon also requires Thresh levels of skill monster, no?
Both Verge and HolyAngemon kinda dislike each other, but the same practicality that makes Verge not really like him also makes him treat Verge a lot better than most of the Host leadership does.
drexal15
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Yes. First off Verge would consider that an overt betrayal. Second, Verge is counting on the Host's support to help unbrainwash his family afterwords.
Verge doesn't like keeping this secret from Pit either. But in this case he doesn't really have much of a choice considering he doesn't even have access to his friend.
Ok, why do we care? We are using the host to get our revenge. Once we have it, the only things that tie us to them are Pit and Ardat. And i am pretty sure Ardat would be much happier outside of the Hosts control. We do have various backup gigs like Drop and Bulwark lined up. And do you really think the Host would be particularily accomodating to an almost Gloaming Lord like Crescemon, and Thresh who murdered hundreds of their soldiers? When they don't even value us enough to support us on the one mission we joined them for and have seperated us from our close friends to imprison them before? There is a good chance we'll have to leave them after this mission anyways.
I feel that Sparks could rig up a way to contact him. He was a crazy good infiltrator when he was only a FlameWizardmon, and his back of tricks has increased with his evolution.
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So Verge's Ultimate doesn't have fluff... Well that doesn't narrow things down at all, but least we know it wouldn't be DORUguremon.
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Our promises to Scratch, Ardat and Pit are still in effect. And the latter two are very much bound up in the Host, albeit on different spectrums.
... Why? Because we are disobeying orders? I'm pretty sure we've done that before. If they hate us talking to our friend when this might very well be the last time we will see each other so much that they would kick us out of the Host for it, i don't see how they deserve Verges loyalty.
There's probably ways to get Ardat out of Host control, and we can't help Pit anyways even if we stay as part of the Host since they do not give us access to him to so much as talk to each other. See this update.
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To address your points in reverse order:
For the first, we'd have to somehow work around Sanzomon. Not an easy task. For the second, they're keeping him cloistered while they put him through an intense training regimen in order to allow him to achieve Mega as soon as possible, while minimizing risks from Astamon's forces. It's not a permanent situation at all.
Because HolyAngemon has actually stuck his neck out for us several times, and if we went against that order it would see him most likely deleted.
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Honestly, I forgot about holyAngemon. Just knowing that we have him on our side (Boy, Taomon did a number on my confidence and trust in the Host, huh?) makes me feel a whole lot better about supporting them and trying to steer them in a good direction.
Also he has gone to bat for us, spoke out for us, and stuck his neck out for us multiple times. I would not want to repay that trust with betrayal. If we leave the Host, it WILL be on good terms, but I dont see us giving up the resources the Host represents on a whim.
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Resigning the Host does not make them less capable of beating you up and throwing you into prison.
Or since you resigned, nothing keeps them from just going to execute the traitor anyway
If they imprison or execute us for saying goodbye to our friend when we're going off to fight three top tier Ultimates who are extremely likely to kill at least one of our team before going down WITHOUT Host support then they do not deserve our loyalty.
Look, i am not saying to kidnap Pit out of their clutches and take him with us on the mission. He can stay behind and train to become Seraphimon. I just want to talk to him.
Chronic the attack on count is not sanctified I'm pretty sure they would flat out stop it if they knew about it begin with.
They know, they just think we can't win and don't trust Bulwark, and thus don't want to commit forces. HolyAngemon told them about the intel, and then when his request for forces was rejected he just decided to coincidentally give us vacation days for the time the intel stated, attempted to take vacation himself and then demanded a contract grant to hire mercenaries. They would need to be stupid to not put two and two together. Why do you think they denied HolyAngemons vacation requests and funds? We're expendable (and would probably desert to go on the mission anyways if they decided to deny us the vacation), he's not.
Yeah but they don't know that we are planning on going anyway, the Host is very hidebound and from what I've seen HolyAngemon is actually fairly atypical.
Dude, when an officer argues strenuously to take a mission with a particular squad, is rejected, then decides to take a vacation together with that particular squad on the same day as that mission AND requests money to hire mercenaries, you know what's up. They know we are planning to go anyways, they just don't care about us enough to stop us. This is pretty much proven since they did care enough to stop HolyAngemon and his request for merc funds. C'mon man, the Hosts military intelligence isn't completely incompetent.