I mean Baihumon and the Sovereigns blessed other mons to give them a boost to evolve and other stuff, so what stops Verge in paying back by giving a blessing and giving Avalon to a worthy digimon.

Hmmm a God raising a heir to be Craniamon? I would say that it would make that guy stacked as fuck.

On balance though, I'd prefer Verge keeping Avalon for himself, Baihumon + infinite Avalon hax is rather amusing to me.

I wonder if it's at all conceivably possible for Verge to become powerful enough to activate Avalon indefinitely?

Would probably require maxed out Baihumon stats + a code crown for good measure if it even is possible.
 
I am not even sure if Verge will keep the power set of the other when digivolving into mega,keeping Avalon as Sovereign or using a lot of the power of Baihumon as a Cranimon seems broken .

As for the idea of giving up some of Verge's power , I am in the camp of not doing that because Drexal has stuff planned for a Baihumon route to keep things interesting, so weakening ourselves when we have completely unknown threat sounds like a bit of a needless risky thing ( especially if they are planned to be able to keep up with a Bahiumon)


The idea trying to cut out Avalon Data ( if it's still around)to give to someone else or trying to shape one of Verge's sovereign core into a new digmon sound like it sound like it require a level of trinary that neither Verge nor Ardat are gonna be reaching within the remaining time of the quest.
 
Once Verge becomes a deity, wouldn't making stuff like Avalon something he could do? He could base his blessings on it, considering that it's an example of a divine gift.
 
No. Avalon and the like are the techniques of the Royal Knights. Only by digivolving into them or being granted them by Yggy would you get access to them.
 
A lot of reasons really. It might not actually be possible for one. Even if it is possible, trying to make a Mega on the level of Craniummon would definitely cost a lot of power that we'd probably want to keep for ourselves. Also, why would we bother? There's no reason to make that kind of sacrifice.
tbf delagation is a power beyond many others. no matter how powerful you are you can only be at one place at a time .

the creation of a powerful minion is a great tool.

though i do agree that losing acess to Avalon is a bit too much of a downside esspecaily as bahimon would be able to spam it

No. Avalon and the like are the techniques of the Royal Knights. Only by digivolving into them or being granted them by Yggy would you get access to them.
In theory it could be something he could do via granting someone else one of his cores and thus his acess to Avalon
 
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Time scale involved is very outside the scope of the quest, but the more likely route if a Sovereign wants to empower a minion in that particular way is to reverse engineer Avalon.

Study it to create a new thing that's similar, but not quite the same.
 
Verge will only start to blend megas when Thresh achieves Crimson Mode and it is the only path to match the meathead.

Whether this is Craniunmon: Sovereign Mode or Baihumon: Royal Mode remains to be seen. If such a thing is even possible.
 
Time scale involved is very outside the scope of the quest, but the more likely route if a Sovereign wants to empower a minion in that particular way is to reverse engineer Avalon.

Study it to create a new thing that's similar, but not quite the same.
I mean he wouldn't even need to reverse enginer it? it's already in his cores and Sovs do grant those to power up minions. anyone granted a core can likely utalize the technique embedded in it.
 
To the people suggesting Verge just makes things like something to Avalon ,question, how?

Verge does not actually have any crafting skill, never learnt any of them nor how to program things into existence, even his high programming got left behind.

Verge is big beat stick that learnt many a direct combat based things and whilst he might get some information on how to uses powers for a new form crafting mythical itme or programs seems like something most mon would have to learn unless you are specifically something like that aloof uncle of the prince.

tbf delagation is a power beyond many others. no matter how powerful you are you can only be at one place at a time .


the creation of a powerful minion is a great tool.
If it possibly permanently weakens you tho might not worth it just to make a vastly weaker if you yourself are excepted to fight threatens on you level.

If it's even physically possible to be pulled off to being with, this stuff sounds more like what the reincarnation cycle is supposed to do.

Drexal do you wanna chime in here and say what up, if any of this is possible? I feel like the Avalon sovereign thing has come up before as well maybe some answers on these matter might be good.
 
Drexal do you wanna chime in here and say what up, if any of this is possible? I feel like the Avalon sovereign thing has come up before as well maybe some answers on these matter might be good.
Avalon is not something Baihumon is capable of making. The Hax of sorts it requires needs either the natural evolution, a crafter like Volcanusmon + special unique coding or Yggdrasil. Verge isn't interested in crafting anyways, and wouldn't want to make himself weaker as a Sovereig.
 
Verge is the guy who heavily dislikes Burstmode because it's entirely relying on pure Faith and/or a physical item for a power up.

Baihumon Verge is not going to be blessing people and handing out power ups to any meaningful extent because that's at odds with his principles. He's far more likely to help teach someone, or murder any outside threat to their development than he is to just hand out any power up.

Let alone for mr. 'I am a Shield' to hand out Avalon
 
Baihumon Verge is not going to be blessing people and handing out power ups to any meaningful extent because that's at odds with his principles. He's far more likely to help teach someone, or murder any outside threat than he is to just hand out any power up.
Crom Verge Crom Verge

"Their chief is Crom. He dwells on a great mountain. What use to call on him? Little he cares if men live or die. Better to be silent than to call his attention to you; he will send you dooms, not fortune! He is grim and loveless, but at birth he breathes power to strive and slay into a man's soul. What else shall men ask of the gods?"

Well not quite but imagining Baihumon going all "Skill issue" and "In my time" sounds hilarious
 
Crom Verge Crom Verge

"Their chief is Crom. He dwells on a great mountain. What use to call on him? Little he cares if men live or die. Better to be silent than to call his attention to you; he will send you dooms, not fortune! He is grim and loveless, but at birth he breathes power to strive and slay into a man's soul. What else shall men ask of the gods?"

Well not quite but imagining Baihumon going all "Skill issue" and "In my time" sounds hilarious
Nah, I fully expect Verge to fuck up any real threats to the young and weak digimon while creating and encouraging avenues for digimon to get stronger based off their own efforts.

He's just not the kind of guy to believe in handouts even if he is arguably a beneficiary of various handouts he got. He absolutely would want to give digimon opportunities to earn their own strength however.
 
Avalon is not something Baihumon is capable of making. The Hax of sorts it requires needs either the natural evolution, a crafter like Volcanusmon + special unique coding or Yggdrasil. Verge isn't interested in crafting anyways, and wouldn't want to make himself weaker as a Sovereig.
Thank you for clarifying

Also it seems like any sort of Verge, sovereign, royal knight or even some other mega would be unwilling to do so given the philosophy he's cultivated since rookie hood on the matter.
 
The only kind of mon whom Verge would grant a power boost to is one who has the drive to exceed their limits through hard work, but just doesn't have enough raw potential to achieve much even with that drive.
 
5th Of Steel: Philosophy Of The Cycle
Given his dramatic proclamation, you expected Garummon to make an attempt to drag you both in front of his master. AncientGreymon would, logically speaking, desire to meet with the server's newest Demon Lord. If only to assess her threat to the Sephirot.

Instead you find yourselves sitting down in a local tea shop, drinking a delightfully sweet barrel of *milk tea*. Unexpected, but not an unwelcome development. The Legendary Warrior sitting across from you defaults to his normal glare, masking any other emotions he might display, which is… at this point you believe it's most likely not intentional.

Zeha, he really reminds me of Gnaw sometimes. I pray that he and Iris will be watching my final match.

"Speak then." Ardat murmurs imperiously before taking a shallow sip of her milk tea. "What arrogance has given you the idea that you can call us to a meeting."

A few moments pass in silence as the Legendary Warrior of Light grumbles over the answer, before finally he nods.

"The Sephirot will not be pleased to know that Bulwark is now dealing with Demon Lords."

"We are no more Demon Lord cret-ahem, Garummon." Ardat corrects herself for… some reason. However you're not sure why she glances at you afterwards. "You are fortunate enough to be in the presence of this server's first and only Lilithmon! The Great Misstress of Desire, Wind Sorcerery and-" As the womon's *explanation* of her titles go on, something strange happens. The tension in Garummon's body and aura gradually fade, until eventually the Ultimate shakes his head.

And you're split on what it could mean.

Either he's written her off as a non-threat, or consigned her for execution. It's difficult to tell…

"I've heard enough." The wolf digimon growls, cutting Ardat off somewhere around *Glorious future Empress of destiny*. With that your rival turns to you and lets out a harsh snort. "I'll inform my master that the newest Demon Lord isn't the evil he fears."

"Evil? We are above such meagre concepts such as good or evil!" Ardat lies before breaking out into a wicked cackle. Something both you and the Holy digimon ignore.

"The non-threat your companion poses aside-"

"H-hey! We're very threatening! Verge tell him!"

"-I had a personal matter to discuss." Garummon continues, still ignoring your lady, despite the Lilithmon's attempta to be threatening by waving her claws in fronts face.

"Hmm?" Putting down the barrel, you learn forward (ignoring Ardat's increasingly childish complaints) and give the former-mercenary your full attention. "Would this be about my next match, or Grademon?"

"Grr, that was obvious feline." He grumbles back, not denying your guesses. "Both. Grademon first. I heard she vanished after a talk with Leopardmon. She joined Bulwark."

"Aye…" You acknowledge, frowning openly at his topic of discussion.

"Grr?" The cyborg tilts his head, confused by your tone. "I thought you of all mon would be excited to have her as an ally."

"She has been… disappointing." You admit, thinking back on your last few interactions with the womon. "She was swayed over by Greed, and abandoned her vengeance because the foe was too powerful." A very strong sense of bitterness enters your tone, anger borne of immense disappointment. "Grademon was not the warrior paragon I believed." Beside you Ardat stops her mindless chatter, and smiles openly as if she'd just won something.

No matter, my Lady's strangeness is not important at the moment.

Again Garummon surprises you. Instead of being shocked or disappointed he just snorts again.

"So she's not the perfect womon you thought she was?" The Legendary Warrior barks, slapping a paw down on the table, nearly toppling his bowl of tea. You hold back a glare at his attitude, and the next moment his form shifts, reverting back to Wolfmon. "Chevalier Verge." His next words are much softer, his Champion frame's tone absent of the previous derision. "Your perspective… I think it's led to you being unnecessarily harsh on her."

"Come again?"

"No she deserves it." Ardat chimes in smugly… and is ignored.

"You see the matter as Grademon abandoning her companion because of weakness." He explains, and you can't fault his reasoning there. "But your own viewpoint on the matter has blinded you to other possibilities."

"That is… unlikely?" You try and retort, but hesitate. That isn't a possibility you'd considered before.

"I met her blade to blade, and Grademon was not a warrior that would give up that easily.." Wolfmon continues solemnly. "Where you see her putting down vengeance as abandonment, I theorize that her laxity stems from another place." He looks past you and lets out a long breath. "Vengeance is not the only path, there are those that choose to put it down in order to end the cycle of violence. Grademon saw the result of that path firsthand with Angemon, and I believe she chose to end it herself."

This time you glare at the Champion with full force, despising the very notion he's suggesting. You couldn't imagine doing something like that. It would've been weakness, pathetic, sniveling weakness to just give up on beating Repulsa. And finally defeating her in battle, as a Mega no less… It had brought you great catharsis, and a sense of peace. This time your response is much firmer.

"I disagree." You rumble, before taking another swig of your tea. "I defeated Repulsa, just as I defeated the Vortex Isle forces seeking vengeance upon myself and Pit. If their deaths cause more warriors to seek my life." You place down the barrel with slightly more force than intended, shattering the empty wood into nineteen pieces. "Then so be it." Ardat flinches, but Wolfmon nods calmly as if having expected such a reaction.

"A mon is rarely all evil, or all good." He murmurs, meeting your heated gaze without fear. "Deleting some may be necessary, but what of their friends? What of their family? Will you delete every digimon that comes seeking vengeance for those that perished at your hand?"

Ridiculous, vengeance is… hold Verge. Is this the philosophy Gramps was trying to teach us at the village? It rings… so similar.

===Choose One:

[]Yes, you would delete them if they came seeking your life. If they would run to their own deaths, then so be it.

[]This is not a question with a simple answer. It would have to be on a case by case basis.

[] No, you're strong enough at this point to remain non-lethal unless forced. At this poiont, a quick Spinal-Tap is enough to handle all but the strongest Ultimates

[] Write in:

===AN: I was gonna write this up yesterday but had a pretty bad relapse. Feeling much better today though! This one was a real fun one to writer, I dig the whole philosophy thing more than I thought. Tomorrow, the match with Angemon starts!
 
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[x]This is not a question with a simple answer. It would have to be on a case by case basis.
The Legendary Warrior sitting across from you defaults to his normal glare, masking any other emotions he might display, which is… at this point you believe it's most likely not intention.
intentional.
despite the Lilithmon attempt to be threatening by waving her claws in fronts face.
Lilithmon's
in front of his face
(ignoring Ardat increasingly childish complaints)
Ardat's
You couldn't imagine something such weakness as giving up on defeating Repulsa.
Review the phrasing of this sentence. There's multiple directions you can go in for fixing it.
 
[X] No, you're strong enough at this point to remain non-lethal unless forced. At this poiont, a quick Spinal-Tap is enough to handle all but the strongest Ultimates
 
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