Guys, are you seriously going to completely abandon Ardat right now? Friends aren't infinitely loyal equippable items, they have emotional needs. Imagine how this would feel for her, to get her hopes up, have them dashed, and for Verge to immediately abandon her for a week.
And are you going to try to guilt trip other voters to get them to vote for a option that has us spend more time with a character that we already do the most for and also mentally changes Verge the longer he's around wihout any time of rest from it?
 
[X][Studying Week 2] Slide Evolution: (If chosen again, will complete first level of Vertical Slide Evolution Training )
[X] Sparks
-[X] Ardat
--[X] Pit
---[X] Beat

Bold seems to be Yggy's influence so of course it doesn't like Ardat. Listening to Yggy, one of the most consistent jerkasses of the Digimon franchise, doesnt strike me as particularly wise either.

Also. Don't abandon a friend to the corruption. Leaving her alone with the corruption lets it focus on her, Verge may very well be diluting it's influence.
 
And are you going to try to guilt trip other voters to get them to vote for a option that has us spend more time with a character that we already do the most for and also mentally changes Verge the longer he's around wihout any time of rest from it?
Yes, I am, because I think it's the right decision and far better than ignoring Ardat during such a difficult time. Being with her now is more important than being with her in the previous update was.
 
And are you going to try to guilt trip other voters to get them to vote for a option that has us spend more time with a character that we already do the most for and also mentally changes Verge the longer he's around wihout any time of rest from it?
Are you going to use fear mongering to get us to go back on our Oath to take care of Ardat?

Even though we've seen that she gets visibly worse when left alone and Verge is pretty much the ONLY person on this entire train willing to spend time with her?
 
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Listening to Yggy, one of the most consistent jerkasses of the Digimon franchise, doesnt strike me as particularly wise either.
It's also not particularly wise to judge someone based on out of story sources.
Verge may very well be diluting it's influence.
This is straight up false. There has never been any evidence nor clues that have indicated such.
Are you going to use fear mongering to get us to go back on our Oath to take care of Ardat?
Oh I didn't know that pointing out the actual corruption of Verge's mind that has been growing more and more constant and seeking to take a break-not leave-counted as fear mongering. Oh forgive me for my obvious crime.
 
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Guys, are you seriously going to completely abandon Ardat right now? Friends aren't infinitely loyal equippable items, they have emotional needs. Imagine how this would feel for her, to get her hopes up, have them dashed, and for Verge to immediately abandon her for a week.

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Assuming Ardat will just sit around near Verge forever and let him "fix" her personality and safely mold her into whatever he wants, without ever having desires or ambitions of her own, is extremely dangerous. She's just not two status bars saying "Ardat's womanly feelings" and "Verge's brain taint" that we have to carefully balance, she's a complex person. If she's put through too much she might just leave, or do something really desperate.
You know our votes have been less about us spending time with others and more them doing that with us right? Since it isn't like Verge can go anywhere stuck in his cargo car like he is.

So in this case it would be less us choosing to step away from Ardat and more her just spending less time with us over the week.
 
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It's also not particularly wise to judge someone based on out of story sources.

This is straight up false. There has never been any evidence nor clues that have indicated such.

Oh I didn't know that pointing out the actual corruption of Verge's mind that has been growing more and more constant and seeking to take a break-not leave-counted as fear mongering. Oh forgive me for my obvious crime.
"Take a break" for an entire week starting on the same day she realized that for some reason she's unable to turn back to her old form, and thus unable to be free of the mental problems caused by her dark digivolution. From her perspective, it's just been definitively confirmed that her life is over. This is the worst possible time to leave her alone and I'm willing to take another corruption hit to avoid that.

Also you know our votes have been less about us spending time with others and more then us right? Since it isn't like Verge can go anywhere stuck in his cargo car like he is.

So in this case it would be less us choosing to step away from Ardat and more here just spending less time with us over the week.
From a Watsonian perspective that makes sense, but it's clearly not true in practice. The characters just so happening to enter Verge's car based on the frequency with which he chooses to spend time with them is a narrative cheat, our votes aren't mind controlling the other characters.
 
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Guys can we really not do this or at least make sure to watch our tempers if we do? I think we clearly lack the information to confirm a truth either way and I really don't think we need a savage argument over two different interpretations of the situation.
 
*heavy sighs* wasn't this vote to prioritize who we wanted to spend the most to least amount of time with? nobody on the list is gonna be left out entirely if I'm reading this right so can we calm down please.
 
Guys can we really not do this or at least make sure to watch our tempers if we do? I think we clearly lack the information to confirm a truth either way and I really don't think we need a savage argument over two different interpretations of the situation.
Nani?

What interpretation? Dno has been pushing hard on his side, Iron brought up his point, I brought up mine, and the only thing that'd count as savage was Rad throw a poor excuse of fear mongering out

Other than thant no one really said much about the situation.
 
Nani?

What interpretation? Dno has been pushing hard on his side, Iron brought up his point, I brought up mine, and the only thing that'd count as savage was Rad throw a poor excuse of fear mongering out

Other than thant no one really said much about the situation.
Right sorry text doesn't make tone and some of the posts looked like they where starting to gain intensity.
 
Nani?

What interpretation? Dno has been pushing hard on his side, Iron brought up his point, I brought up mine, and the only thing that'd count as savage was Rad throw a poor excuse of fear mongering out

Other than thant no one really said much about the situation.
Rad's not fearmongering, he's just bringing up a dimension of the vote which none of us had considered. He's not being particularly extreme about it either
 
Right sorry text doesn't make tone and some of the posts looked like they where starting to gain intensity.
Eh you were probably somewhat right about temper thing, I was just pointing out then talk wasn't really about interpreting.
Rad's not fearmongering, he's just bringing up a dimension of the vote which none of us had considered. He's not being particularly extreme about it either
Not what I meant, but that's probably my fault for not wording it better. I meant that the only savage moment was Rad accusing me of Fear Mongering. Not the that he was doing it.
 
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[x] Sparks
-[x] Ardat
--[X] Pit
—[x] Beat

I'm fine with the corruption to be totally honest. As long as we don't allow it to make us go against our heart's justice, I think we'll be fine.

Yggdrasil's a dick anyway.
 
Edit: Something to consider is what learning more slide evolution entails. Verge cannot study by himself, so there are only two mon that can help him out here. One of which would need some time to catch up.
Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on Jan 17, 2019 at 2:21 PM, finished with 39 posts and 16 votes.
 
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[X][Studying Week 2] Slide Evolution: (If chosen again, will complete first level of Vertical Slide Evolution Training)

[x] Sparks
-[x] Pit
--[X] Ardat
—[x] Beat

I'm going for this setup personally. We do need to spend more time with Pit, and we've got a daily kata with Beat now. Let him open up to us. Sparks is our little bro, so we need to bridge the gap, and hopefully find out if there's anything new bothering him.
 
[X][Studying Week 2] Slide Evolution: (If chosen again, will complete first level of Vertical Slide Evolution Training)

[x] Pit
-[x] Sparks
--[x] Ardat
---[x] Beat


Not voting for Ardat doesn't mean Verge is abandoning Ardat. Verge is stuck in this one train car. I see this vote more as how much the others want to spend time with Verge.
 
[X][Studying Week 2] Slide Evolution: (If chosen again, will complete first level of Vertical Slide Evolution Training)

[x] Pit
-[x] Sparks
--[x] Ardat
---[x] Beat


Not voting for Ardat doesn't mean Verge is abandoning Ardat. Verge is stuck in this one train car. I see this vote more as how much the others want to spend time with Verge.
Why would our vote be controlling the other characters? Why would Beat and Ardat's desire to be with Verge suddenly decrease? It's clearly like, Verge talking to them when they pass by his car and inviting them in, or something like that.
 
[X][Studying Week 2] Slide Evolution: (If chosen again, will complete first level of Vertical Slide Evolution Training )
[X] Sparks
-[X] Ardat
--[X] Pit
---[X] Beat

If we're going to be finishing slide evolution, we might as well spend at least a decent amount of time with Ardat. Besides, with the amount of corruption we had already gained, I doubt we can minimize its influence much without avoiding Ardat as much as possible.
 
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Not what I meant, but that's probably my fault for not wording it better. I meant that the only savage moment was Rad accusing me of Fear Mongering. Not the that he was doing it.
So I clearly didn't phrase my comment well.

What I was trying to say was essentially-

If no. Bringing up points in favor of Ardat counts as guilt tripping, then you then you bringing up points against is equally fear mongering.

In other words, both sides are making valid arguments so lets not go resorting to name calling just to discredit someone else's argument as that can go both ways.

Had 5 minutes left in my lunch break and typing on my phone is not ideal.

Sorry if I came off wrong.
 
So, does anyone think that the reason why slide evolving failed for Ardat is the whole thing about Scions really coming into their own when they hit Ultimate?

That her Ultimate form is so powerful that either
  1. The slide evolution process as performed according to the instructions are essentially reading her as a Mega, causing a shift down by one level to not actually accomplish anything.
  2. The downscaling of stats from the slide evolution process leaves her as a Champion with such absurdly high stats for the level that she immediately evolves back to Ultimate.
 
*looks at tally*

Of course it would be because the lower Ardat votes are all in separate plans, I really hope the corruption hit from this doesn't push us past the point of no return.
 
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