I mean Akane is very much into helping as many people she can and the region did have a nasty forest induced disease outbreak. But we can ask anyways.

@HeroCooky what is the exact reason that the Sunken Hollows chapter had its number down.
 
What we need is to find stuff that will boost Recruitment in the region.

After all, half of Bone Valley's recuits come from having a fortified position. We need to find what gives that kind of bonus.

If all else fails we can send 10-20 Goodwill in money and materials to help build the Chapter out.
 
Well it really deppends both on the region and the what Akane would want.

Each adjuctator collor the chapter in their own way. Ohmar is the infrastructure guy, he builds things and improve that way. Balric seem very conflict focused and defensive minded he make sure the people are protected first. Eryl is a serial adopter that probably would go hard on commerce and soft power around the citadel. And Akane? Akane wants to help people, here and now and as many she can.

I would say supplies are nice but a base that works like a vehicle center where she can just send more help would work for her playstyle in the longer run.
 
I mean, iirc we could use a Learning action to poke around a region to find resources that we can make use of. Which at this point we should do as it would allow the Chapter to grow better as it becomes a job provider.
That seems more like a diplo action to requisition the region adventurer guild specifically to be honest. Survey the land is not really what we usually do learning actions for.
 
Its not just survey, its also analysing all the different species of flora and fauna to see if they have anything usefull in them. That's why its a Learning action.
Problem is our learning for next years are almost as booked, not only the books we got to translate but we have now the lost tech prototype bunker blueprints and daam they scream research chain and there 7 of them.
 
Problem is our learning for next years are almost as booked, not only the books we got to translate but we have now the lost tech prototype bunker blueprints and daam they scream research chain and there 7 of them.
Yeah, but consider that the Chapter will have to set up any industry we discover in the region, and that will take several turns at least.

So I think spending one Learning action to help them develop would be worth it.
 
Yeah, but consider that the Chapter will have to set up any industry we discover in the region, and that will take several turns at least.

So I think spending one Learning action to help them develop would be worth it.
The chapter need to set up some basic infrastructure before any industry if im being honest.
Really they could technically do the learning action, but what we can help is with material wealth and sheer amount of resources delivered by ship thus not something they can easily do yet.
 
The chapter need to set up some basic infrastructure before any industry if im being honest.
Really they could technically do the learning action, but what we can help is with material wealth and sheer amount of resources delivered by ship thus not something they can easily do yet.
But they are already setting up industries, they are building Scavenger outposts. So that to me says that they are as built up Infrastructure wise and are now focusing on generating income streams.

They do need to generate money to support more infrastructure, so pointing them in a direction would help them at this time. They also need more people to expand, and creating jobs for people who can't find or won't be paid enough for honest work would probably help more than a soup kitchen at this point.

Also, what the main branch can discover with its research complex will be magnitudes more than what the Chapter can do without any scientists at all.

Its one action out of four for one turn, its not a big sacrifice.
 
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But they are already setting up industries, they are building Scavenger outposts. So that to me says that they are as built up Infrastructure wise and are now focusing on generating income streams.

Not really. They have an outpost, they need their own farms labs lodging and security the trade depot would help with that but your original point is not money, is how one could increase recruiting and for that they need a place where they can live well. And well Akane is to busy putting out fires.

Also, what the main branch can discover with its research complex will be magnitudes more than what the Chapter can do without any scientists at all.

Its one action out of four for one turn, its not a big sacrifice.
Our AP is booked in that like really we already made sacrifices on the books this turn. And unless we have something that is really urgen we are likely going all in. The book translation is something we can't be shoving off forever since there's a whole apocalypse over our heads.
Something that may eventually get them more money can be done later.
 
Not really. They have an outpost, they need their own farms labs lodging and security the trade depot would help with that but your original point is not money, is how one could increase recruiting and for that they need a place where they can live well. And well Akane is to busy putting out fires.
I think they already did the farms, or if they haven't I assume its either because they can't acquire land easily or food is already readily available and they see no need t build farms.

And one of the fires that akane is constantly dealing with is trying to get people to accept her and the Pilgrims help in spite of all the racism. It is one thing to turn down help, it is another to turn down a job with a decent salary.

Our AP is booked in that like really we already made sacrifices on the books this turn
??? What sacrifice? We translated a book this turn, and we can keep translating them as well. That why we have 4 (3) Learning actions.
 
??? What sacrifice? We translated a book this turn, and we can keep translating them as well. That why we have 4 (3) Learning actions.
We had talks of going heavy on books this turn but there's some particularly impactful research that could easily be knocked down. It's more about priorities but since you use the term fist:
its not a big sacrifice.
I just kept for sake of context.



I think they already did the farms, or if they haven't I assume its either because they can't acquire land easily or food is already readily available and they see no need t build farms.
Not really the land is a bit poor but they could always build hydroponics the problem is that the story of the hollows chapter is set up, encounter problem, nig scary thing happened that put everyone in lockdown, medical rush where we send supplies, trouble with the merchant guild, get the depot in the way, now.

They had a lot of issues trow on them before they could set up issues that Akane can't just ignore because well, she helps the people in front of her before anything.


And one of the fires that akane is constantly dealing with is trying to get people to accept her and the Pilgrims help in spite of all the racism. It is one thing to turn down help, it is another to turn down a job with a decent salary.
That does not work. We can't really buy converts. We can in theory use the money to fund charity projects that passively get us converts, or recruitment campaigns that let us to reach people.

But they don't need an industry for that,they need money, money we really just have.
Hell, the Tersen chapter (ie us) do not employ pilgrims exclusively either, our industry is less about the numbers of converts and more about the base needed for research and recovery of tech so we can keep improving the livelihood of the general population and the wrold overall.
 
That does not work. We can't really buy converts. We can in theory use the money to fund charity projects that passively get us converts, or recruitment campaigns that let us to reach people.
It's not buying converts, its treating racism via exposure therapy. It's hard to keep being a bigoted ass when you have to work alongside mutated where you are treated as equals.

But they don't need an industry for that,they need money, money we really just have.
And they do need money, so better to set the Chapters up where they can support themselves and ater on each other rather than all relying on the main branch.
 
It's not buying converts, its treating racism via exposure therapy.
Not really how it works unfortunately, there's a reason why we have the "we are one people as an action". We will not be curing racism by having only workplace if anything this leave for a workshop solely populated by people that already share a mindset


And they do need money, so better to set the Chapters up where they can support themselves and ater on each other rather than all relying on the main branch.
They can get money by managing the trade depho as a keystone of airship trade.
What we can do is basically kickstart the more basic groundwork now and industries with tech, make no mistakes even the more basic printing press would be a lot of money when the organization is small.
 
They can get money by managing the trade depho as a keystone of airship trade.
Which they are already building, in fact it is close to completion. The Learning action would come in handy to point them at what to build next.

Why are you so dead set against it? It would not slow down our development. We are not on a time crunch, we can afford to take detours to look into improving the situation of our Chapters.
 
I'm not sure that there's anything a Learning action can do to alter the structural issues of the Chapters. Those all appeared to be tied to social issues (anti-Mutated prejudice, local nobility's distrust, etc.)
 
I'm not sure that there's anything a Learning action can do to alter the structural issues of the Chapters. Those all appeared to be tied to social issues (anti-Mutated prejudice, local nobility's distrust, etc.)
You can't change those social issues without either being a really good speaker or having influence to leverage. Akane has neither.

The Sunken Hollows Chapter needs something to boost recruitment. And, since they can't leverage preexisting tensions in their favor, indursty seemed the way to go.

Besides, we might strike gold and find something we the main branch can make use of. We did have to research what Suspendium did after all.
 
Yeah rage nail the point. You are in a sense, trying to dig a hole with a hammer.

This is not what the actions *do*, getting the chapter industry local or not will not change racism that endemic to the system down the very laws, or at the very best case scenario not in any appreciable timeframe.

Also there's absolutely negative need in getting local products to kick start any chapter economic engine since they can have an airship trade on the ground, wich is a huge source of cash.

Also I would dispute the idea they need to boost recruitment specifically, because we never really need a lot of members very much. More to the fact becoming too big may as well be a detriment because size is not really a indicator of progress to the pilgrimage since our goal is not covert people to go a specific paradise like moat prostelizating religions.

So yeah, in esence a mix of that is not what the action do, they will have acess to Airship trading and we really don't need a lot of numbers.
 
Stuff that makes them money and helps others in turn.
So yeah, it sounds like the usual Learning actions with profitable products are the key forward. We saw how the contraception action provided a bonus to recruitment across the board. It might be good to get stuff like the Agricultural options going - those look like they'd make some good mints.
 
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