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- USA
That is not the problem, there zealots. They see themselves as right, and nothing but Big G him self can prove otherwise. Even then a few with still be self-righteous.
Too far, for now. If they open war on us? Then fair game.
Cult Creator - The Pilgrims Journey
- Thread starter HeroCooky
- Start date
- Original Mature
I fucking knew it. Fuck it, let's rumble.
We should also remind them that the emperor himself has given us the okay and we have worked with several imperial institutions. By their logic the emperor is a heretic and that would not please Insec now would it.
Also we should also focus on the fact that they are a minority religion all things considered. That will piss them off.
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It would also not pleased the Light cult the Number one Cult in the empire that think the Emps is a God you call him a heretic you died pegan
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
There is only one answer to give to this:
[ ] (Public Response - Will have long-ranging effects. Can declare the CoE heretical in return without action cost, this Turn only.)
-[ ] Express disappointment and disapproval at the Church of Eden as an organization, and their continued efforts to sow chaos and drag humanity into darkness, death, and misery. You most emphatically do not declare association with Church of Eden members or associated organizations to be 'heretical'. The Pilgrims reaffirm their commitment to voluntary association, and will not discriminate based on religious ties, origin, or occupation.
[ ] (Public Response - Will have long-ranging effects. Can declare the CoE heretical in return without action cost, this Turn only.)
-[ ] Express disappointment and disapproval at the Church of Eden as an organization, and their continued efforts to sow chaos and drag humanity into darkness, death, and misery. You most emphatically do not declare association with Church of Eden members or associated organizations to be 'heretical'. The Pilgrims reaffirm their commitment to voluntary association, and will not discriminate based on religious ties, origin, or occupation.
We should phrase it as 'we have always tried to be diplomatic and we are sad to see that some minorities have refused us the same courtesy but we are not going to let a vocal few deter us from our goals'.
On more secular matters, we should really start an engine for the silver mines, our income does not look good.
On more secular matters, we should really start an engine for the silver mines, our income does not look good.
We should also mention the emperor word on us and that we're helping him
Nah, the emperor's support is on the down low for now, so it's a 50/50 whether that helps or not. Either way we should keep the goverment out of it unless we are truly in danger.
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- USA
Whenyouseeyou You need to stop pushing, I know your mad. But how about doing as Godwinson is suggestion. It fits us way better.
His response is a tad too passive for a public response. We should try to return the bitchslap somewhat.
- Location
- USA
No, that is kind the point. We do not give in to rage or anger. We turn this back on them, by making them look like a those who are at fault.
I'm not saying to reply in anger but the people love it when organizations throw zingers around. Also his recrimination of the COE is kind of weak. They could easily retort that it is us that is trying to sow chaos and return people to death and misery by instigating another collapse.
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- USA
.... Read what I said and what Godwinson has a vote. If they say, we are trying to sow chaos, return people to death and misery. Then we can prove, we aren't and then everyone else but the zealots. Are going to find out there full of shit.
They already say that, that's their entire point. We should avoid this line of thinking entirely, it will devolve into 'no u' arguments that will lead nowhere and that's what they want.
Our response will have far reaching consequences so I would like something more than 'no, it's you that's causing society to degenerate into death and misery'.
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- USA
.... Where the hell did you get THAT idea from? That was the Pilgrims response. To prove there point, they do not want to fight nor make war. Rather keep the peace. I did mention how we should do two right? One for Pilgrims, and one form Houses Dall.
From this line, combined with their philosophy from the religions page you can read in between the lines.
They blame the fall on technology and thus us, who seek to recover said technology, will bring about a second one. It's not that hard to see.
Yeah, that 'fiction' book is definitely real. Mentions 'the white' purging people and hopes of being saved by 'the black'. Harbinger belongs to the white forrest, her opposer Rotten Moon belongs to the black forest, and at one point appeared as a skeletal figure(?), which seems connected to the diary mentioning that they were collecting bones. Maybe an attempt to summon old moony?
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
This seems like an absolute shoo-in for next turn. I can't think of a better symbolic clap-back against COE than replying to their screed with the enlightenment, literally, of Tessen.
As for a statement, what we specifically need to go for is empathy. That will demonstrate the virtues of our philosophy while simultaneously infuriating the COE. Gimme half an hour, I'll write a draft.
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- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
A STATEMENT BY THE COUNCIL OF THE PILGRIMS
REGARDING RECENT ACTIONS OF THE CHURCH OF EDEN
There is no shame in despairing.
It is no weakness, this struggle to bear,
That which haunts our days and our footsteps,
That which aches in the core of our hearts.
For we each look out and see suffering,
We cast our minds back and know loss.
To be human is to know - always - wanting,
Beset on all sides and oft lost.
...
And in darkness that bears down, oppressive,
We - all - have seen claws in the murk.
On the wind, we - all - have heard whispers,
gleeful, and promising harm.
For what could this be, if not evil?
What causes this pain, if not hate?
Our eyes strain to see foes in the darkness.
We lash out, desperate to guard.
...Because if the sorrow that walks in our footsteps,
Cannot be pulled from the black,
Cannot be named and found wanting,
If it has no such form...
Then what?
...
Then the darkness is cold, but not hateful.
Then the wind does not whisper - just our fear.
Then the weight is so, so much greater.
The whole formless black, ours to bear.
And so we walk on, blind and suffering,
And strike out where we wish there were foes.
And in striking, hurt only each other,
Our kinfolk, bodies bruised as our own.
...
Until a hand reaches out in the darkness,
And in turn, a hand reaches back.
Clasping, we see one another,
Embracing, we find warmth at last.
In the dim, battered glow of shared candles,
In eyes crying soot-blackened tears,
In faces, broken from smiling,
If Grace can be found,
It is here.
...
We are who we are to each other.
We stand tall, by each lifting up.
Our hands still reach out to you, brothers.
We are, each of us,
Human,
Enough.
REGARDING RECENT ACTIONS OF THE CHURCH OF EDEN
There is no shame in despairing.
It is no weakness, this struggle to bear,
That which haunts our days and our footsteps,
That which aches in the core of our hearts.
For we each look out and see suffering,
We cast our minds back and know loss.
To be human is to know - always - wanting,
Beset on all sides and oft lost.
...
And in darkness that bears down, oppressive,
We - all - have seen claws in the murk.
On the wind, we - all - have heard whispers,
gleeful, and promising harm.
For what could this be, if not evil?
What causes this pain, if not hate?
Our eyes strain to see foes in the darkness.
We lash out, desperate to guard.
...Because if the sorrow that walks in our footsteps,
Cannot be pulled from the black,
Cannot be named and found wanting,
If it has no such form...
Then what?
...
Then the darkness is cold, but not hateful.
Then the wind does not whisper - just our fear.
Then the weight is so, so much greater.
The whole formless black, ours to bear.
And so we walk on, blind and suffering,
And strike out where we wish there were foes.
And in striking, hurt only each other,
Our kinfolk, bodies bruised as our own.
...
Until a hand reaches out in the darkness,
And in turn, a hand reaches back.
Clasping, we see one another,
Embracing, we find warmth at last.
In the dim, battered glow of shared candles,
In eyes crying soot-blackened tears,
In faces, broken from smiling,
If Grace can be found,
It is here.
...
We are who we are to each other.
We stand tall, by each lifting up.
Our hands still reach out to you, brothers.
We are, each of us,
Human,
Enough.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Depends entirely on the Region said Mutated are in.
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- USA
What about machin mind? That is getting to the clans mad at lest.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Forge-Clans deal with that in the same vein as an adult treats a 4-year old calling them stinky. A raised eyebrow, some 'tut tut' and then completely ignoring it.
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- USA
So what I am hearing is that. We can do the same.
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