Cult Creator - The Pilgrims Journey
- Thread starter HeroCooky
- Start date
- Original Mature
Crafter of War
The Dorf
- Location
- Bend
Huh, that's nice. I wonder how high up it is.
Oh. We're going to have a lot of enemies, aren't we?
The rank is outside measures of hight. It removes us from the noble game because our job is too important to risk to noble games.
Double edged sword, we have only one real open enemy - the emperor. We fail him, we die.
EDIT - can we renegotiate at a later time? Because I want that - 12 BAD, but I can't see any reasonable way to afford it.
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HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Such is the burden of finding a shiny. And of protagonists.
A very uncertain 'maybe' on that. It is essentially a feudal contract and modifications to it would require a large change. It would also have the same option at a similarly high cost due to its nature.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
So, we need to hit 60 Tiny Shards per turn to be able to fulfill the contract on an ongoing basis.
Our current expansion has us hitting 3 Tiny Shards per turn once it completes.
What the fuck.
Right, so, let's get one obvious plan out of the way:
[ ] Plan "All In"
-[ ] Sell: Proof of Concept, All current and future research, An impossible increase in the Quota, An impossible reduction in Delivery Time (+12 points)
-[ ] Buy: Artifact Reclamation Order, Increased Patrols (-13 points)
3,840 Tiny Shards per turn in order to not have any other major finds stolen for having dared to come to Imperial Attention.
Our current expansion has us hitting 3 Tiny Shards per turn once it completes.
What the fuck.
Right, so, let's get one obvious plan out of the way:
[ ] Plan "All In"
-[ ] Sell: Proof of Concept, All current and future research, An impossible increase in the Quota, An impossible reduction in Delivery Time (+12 points)
-[ ] Buy: Artifact Reclamation Order, Increased Patrols (-13 points)
3,840 Tiny Shards per turn in order to not have any other major finds stolen for having dared to come to Imperial Attention.
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Yep, and our only hope is getting a full sized airship working.
Though notably negative contracts are posible, merely "not advised"
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Crafter of War
The Dorf
- Location
- Bend
Yes, the rank of Prevter is suppose to remove us from the nobles game. The same way that dukes and duchesses are suppose to elevate and create prosperity within their region instead of competing with each other for influence to the detriment of their subjects. Think about how many people are pissed that a newly formed noble line that were at lord rank with a mutant partner just got a fig leaf from the Emperor due to finding a strategic resource. I wouldn't hold my breath that some idiotic noble won't try to play stupid games and try to mess with us. Mind you, anyone that tries is probably going to get the stupid prize of the Emperor, Inner Security, and the Royal Army dropping on them like a sack of bricks. In the end, what I'm trying to say is that don't think we're untouchable because some idiot is going to try anyway.
Another thing to note is that we won't just have to worry about enemies from within the empire. We also have to worry about enemies outside the empire that seek to curtail its strength by attacking its ability to gain strategic reaources i.e. us.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
I certainly hope that even sticking with the baseline requirement will see us having new projects to increase output, considering just for that we need a twenty-fold improvement.
I'm down. Hero did say;
"Btw, choosing the massive reduction in time and/or increase in supply will unlock special projects to do so. Doing so won't be cheap, and you will be scrambling to get your Trail upgraded as fast as possible to keep up, but it will be feasible. I wouldn't give you the options otherwise."
And literally owning the Forest and everything in it sounds amazing. Time to go full steam ahead bois.
I get the impresion nobles do not want the rank we got. Big E's gonna murder anyone who makes his suspendium late or more expensive. We get locked out of most noble stuff. We get protection and an ax over our head.
So no, I don't expect noble challenge.
Would offering a deal that is favored for the Emperor give us leverage to renegotiate to a fairer contract later, say ending up at +3 or 4?
- Location
- USA
This is fairly good for us overall giving a nice boost to our income and reducing the cost of our high end goodies. It should be considered due to its low cost in the large scale of things.
This is a straight upgrade to the previous, with all around better results and I feel that we probably get more from this than the extra point costs overall.
This is a tad too expensive I feel, but if we could this would probably be the second most valuable offer we have here, only second to the Artifact order.
Simple, but honestly we can get more benefits for the same point cost with other options. Only valuable if we decide to not go beyond 2 points and even then I feel that the forge offer is simply better.
This could pair well with the other two offers, but the lack of martial issues is a thing and this could very easily end up wasted.
Costly for honestly little gain over the basic version, and I feel that in this regard obscurity might be better than anything else.
I feel this is the worst offer on table, we will already have indirect protection from the new chapters and all this does is increase their response times, however I feel that any chapter near us would have protecting us as a high level mandate anyway so I feel this is a trap option.
This is the best offer here, however the cost behind it means that we have to promise near impossible levels of speed and amount to get it. However, if we can and manage our responsibilities we suddenly become the single most powerful religion in this region and get out from all the Forge Clans and other people trying to get artifacts.
- Location
- Brazil
-[] Plan Probably Reasonable
--[] Proof of Concept - +1 Point
--[]All current and future research - +1 Point
--[]An increase in the Quota - (4 Medium) +2 Points
--[]A reduction in Delivery Time - (-2 Turns) - +2 Points
--[]Forge-Temple - -7 Points
--[]Increased Patrols - -1 Point
[] Plan Some Greed
--[] Proof of Concept - +1 Point
--[]All current and future research - +1 Point
--[]A massive increase in the Quota - (8 Medium) +3 Points
--[]Massive reduction in Delivery Time - (-4 Turns) - +3 Points
--[]Forge-Temple - -7 Points
--[]Guard Stations - -3 Points
[] Plan Pure Greed
--[] Proof of Concept - +1 Point
--[]All current and future research - +1 Point
--[]An impossible increase in the Quota - (1 Large) +5 Points
--[]An impossible reduction in Delivery Time - (-6 Turns) - +5 Points
--[]Artifact Reclamation Order - -12 Points
--[]Increased Patrols - -1 Point
Note: We can go in point debt so it still is possible to grab artifact reclamation on Plan Some Greed instead of forge temple and guard stations if we are willing to risk whatever plot hooks is waiting for us. I heavily discourge picking pure greed.
--[] Proof of Concept - +1 Point
--[]All current and future research - +1 Point
--[]An increase in the Quota - (4 Medium) +2 Points
--[]A reduction in Delivery Time - (-2 Turns) - +2 Points
--[]Forge-Temple - -7 Points
--[]Increased Patrols - -1 Point
[] Plan Some Greed
--[] Proof of Concept - +1 Point
--[]All current and future research - +1 Point
--[]A massive increase in the Quota - (8 Medium) +3 Points
--[]Massive reduction in Delivery Time - (-4 Turns) - +3 Points
--[]Forge-Temple - -7 Points
--[]Guard Stations - -3 Points
[] Plan Pure Greed
--[] Proof of Concept - +1 Point
--[]All current and future research - +1 Point
--[]An impossible increase in the Quota - (1 Large) +5 Points
--[]An impossible reduction in Delivery Time - (-6 Turns) - +5 Points
--[]Artifact Reclamation Order - -12 Points
--[]Increased Patrols - -1 Point
Note: We can go in point debt so it still is possible to grab artifact reclamation on Plan Some Greed instead of forge temple and guard stations if we are willing to risk whatever plot hooks is waiting for us. I heavily discourge picking pure greed.
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
I'm thinking for the negotiation, something like this:
[] Plan: Produce Results
Sell:
-[] Proof of Concept - +1 Point
-[] All current and future research - +1 Point
-[] An increase in the Quota - (4 Medium) +2 Points
-[] A reduction in Delivery Time - (-2 Turns) - +2 Points
Buy:
-[] Forge-District - -3 Points
-[] Increased Patrols - -1 Point
-[] Guard Stations - -3 Points
End total: 0 Points
I think the increased patrols and guard stations will be important, not only given whatever has the criminal organizations spooked, but just in general against the mutants and machines that surge from the city or the wastes. We don't have the troops to protect the whole region, but our philosophy means that we can't stand aside when they are in danger, so by having the empire's troops take up the job, our troops can focus on protecting our people as they set up the harvesting operation in the ruins.
The Forge district will synergize well with our plans to create an engine and airship industry in Norqod, and the extra increase in quota and reduction in delivery time shouldn't be too hard to achieve.
[] Plan: Produce Results
Sell:
-[] Proof of Concept - +1 Point
-[] All current and future research - +1 Point
-[] An increase in the Quota - (4 Medium) +2 Points
-[] A reduction in Delivery Time - (-2 Turns) - +2 Points
Buy:
-[] Forge-District - -3 Points
-[] Increased Patrols - -1 Point
-[] Guard Stations - -3 Points
End total: 0 Points
I think the increased patrols and guard stations will be important, not only given whatever has the criminal organizations spooked, but just in general against the mutants and machines that surge from the city or the wastes. We don't have the troops to protect the whole region, but our philosophy means that we can't stand aside when they are in danger, so by having the empire's troops take up the job, our troops can focus on protecting our people as they set up the harvesting operation in the ruins.
The Forge district will synergize well with our plans to create an engine and airship industry in Norqod, and the extra increase in quota and reduction in delivery time shouldn't be too hard to achieve.
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Researching anything airship related will also take shards which we now have a quota on, so I think our focus is going to be on setting up adequate production of Suspendium before we start experimenting with it again. Knowing more about how to use it won't really help us in harvesting more after all. So if we won't be using the Proof for a while anyway, we might as well get some extra bargaining room from it.
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
i'll weigh in on negotiations later. For now, I'lll just say, ahem,
I TOLD YOU SO!!!!
I TOLD YOU SO!!!!
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
The closest thing to that would be the tax exemption, which would reduce our upkeep by at LEAST 40 materials.
I don't actually want to be excempt from taxes. I think it's a bad idea in general and morally slimy. I would much rather the empire throw us a lump sum of money at us with the order to use it to increase production.
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Oh I agree on not wanting the tax exemption, but that is the closest we're gonna get to a lump sum of Materials.
- Location
- Brazil
That the necropolis is extremely dangerous.