Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest!

The only upside I see is that Gaia seems to like us, and she'll get quite annoyed and likely step in if Shiva-Sil get stuck in personally.

Anyway, I'm wondering what the best choice of our XP is at the moment. Synchronize might let us ride the Core Connection to borrow moves from people who are linked up with us, which considering one of our guys is mister "I can't be curbstomped, only defeated by someone who's roughly my equal", that'd be... Very, very useful for us.

And the best imaginable power for us right now would be to borrow that trick. Given how frequently things show up that can reduce us to atoms.
 
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Oh fuck, it worked!?!

As much as I wanna jump in, do we really know if it was Shiva or Sil? Seems somewhat likely but they'd have to have been watching the field. It might be the theorize 4th faction that let the monster rats out.

We have no idea what's going on in there.
 
I think that it was actually Gaia, because she is the planet they just got sucked into, but that's just me...
 
The only upside I see is that Gaia seems to like us, and she'll get quite annoyed and likely step in if Shiva-Sil get stuck in personally.

Anyway, I'm wondering what the best choice of our XP is at the moment. Synchronize might let us ride the Core Connection to borrow moves from people who are linked up with us, which considering one of our guys is mister "I can't be curbstomped, only defeated by someone who's roughly my equal", that'd be... Very, very useful for us.

And the best imaginable power for us right now would be to borrow that trick. Given how frequently things show up that can reduce us to atoms.
We can't purchase any new upgrades until the party reunites, and in the process of doing that, it's fairly likely that we'll gain enough xp to purchase Indestructible Core, which would be an insane boost to our survivability (not necessarily our damage output though).
 
Synchronize might let us ride the Core Connection to borrow moves from people who are linked up with us, which considering one of our guys is mister "I can't be curbstomped, only defeated by someone who's roughly my equal", that'd be... Very, very useful for us.
Actually, we know what Synchronize does, it's in the Data Mine*: it allows an attack or spell to combine with another attack or spell, producing something more powerful then either separately.

It's the classic "combine our power for a super attack".

*Am I the only one who reads it?
 
So I was thinking about Indestructible Core and just what it might mean for Nepgear.

----*Beware Possible Epileptic Trees*----

The first thing that needs noting is that as we saw in FATAL GEAR and later BLOOD GEAR Nepgear isn't human anymore. Instead she is her Core:
You: Dead.

CORE BREACH!)
Metal rends, and half of it is flying away as the seemingly unstoppable blade goes right through the rest of you like your made of paper. Blood and dust flies from the titanic wound, as you are literally cut in half lengthwise.

You feel no pain... and the incredible light that your Core Purge had revealed floods from the wound... and you know no more.
Anastasia lies on the ground in two separate locations. Her blood leaks slowly, dyeing the black glass she rests on red. A small orb of light shines weakly halfway between the two halves of her body, and as you watch bits and pieces of her break off into light to be drawn in by the tiny little orb.

Now this isn't particular surprising since Nepgear's "body" is just a magical construct:
Her grin is vicious. "The third type is when the Magical Girl apparently replaces her Human body with a magical construct as well as using a spare magical body for combat."

And for a moment you find yourself staring at her with incomprehension. When it dawns on you, you actually drop your cup.

"As far as the lab coat can tell, you no longer have an actual human body."
but still important to remember.


The next important thing to grasp is what exactly Armored Core and Core Containment are doing. We know that mechanically speaking they make Nepgear harder to damage and capable of surviving more damage respectively but how do they do this? Frankly not much is said on this topic however based upon what we know I suspect what's going on is that Armored Core and Core Containment are quite literally what they say.

That means that Armored Core represents the actual armor, well it's technically magical armor rather traditional metallic armor as seen by:
You barely make it to the door when two zombies outright tackle you to the ground.

(Rending Jaws: 25 Base Damage, no dice, +15 Grapple = 40 Total Damage
Rending Jaws: 25 Base Damage, no dice, +15 Grapple = 40 Total Damage
Solid Core: 85 Base Resilience, +9 Dice = 94 Damage Reduction

0 Total End Damage: Armored Core Negation)


"Gah!" Your shout draws attention, but its too late as the two zombies pile atop you. But their jaws are stopped by your golden barrier, unable to break through.
, with the grade, IE: Iron/Steel/Mythril/Adamantium, of Armored Core representing the strength of the armor, which fit's with the material theme, while the Level would represent how many layers we have.

Similarly Core Containment would likely represent the containment field that keeps Nepgear's Core from undergoing a rapid unplanned release of energy (IE: exploding). Each Level therefore would mark a strengthening of the field making it capable of withstanding more stress before rupturing. Incidentally this would explain why Core Purge causes HP damage since it basically involves intentionally weakening the field to allow energy to explode outwards*. Purifier Beam meanwhile doesn't cause HP damage since it's a release valve actually built into the system and so involves no messing around with the containment field.

*Think of it like a Nova, yes nova not supernova, but instead of energy building up to the point where it can't be contained and the excess explodes outwards it's more dropping how much energy can be contained to make the excess explode outwards.




So with this in mind what would Indestructible Core do? Especially since it replaces both Armored Core and Core Containment? Well to my mind it does exactly what it says. In other words I think Indestructible Core literally makes Nepgear's Core indestructible.

Now some of you are probably thinking "Hold on! Wouldn't that make her super-OP?" and to that my answer is yes it would make her super-OP, if it was just that. However just because her Core can't be destroyed doesn't mean you can't just destroy her body, which Nepgear is kinda useless without.

I have two ideas for how things would play out at that point, both amazingly trauma filled. The first is simply that Nepgear would be stuck as her Core, in what form this would take IDK, until she recreates her body, it is a magical construct after all, which is actually surprisingly similar to the Gaia's WEAPON's ability:
Gaia's WEAPON
-Angel WEAPON automatically resurrects at a specified location upon death.
except Nepgear would be displaced temporarily (IE: it would take time to rebuild her body) instead of spatially (IE: shows up somewhere else).

The second idea gets rather meta but ties into a few loose threads we've seen floating around. Such as why Nepgear's dreams are called "Reflections through the Kaleidoscope", why Rei dreamed about exactly what happened when Nepgear died, how Gehaburn ended up inside Rei, or why we can generate xp from updates that Nepgear didn't actually live through (IE: Dead Ends). Basically every time Nepgear "dies" because her Core remains intact it slips through her clear connection to the Kaleidoscope and merges with another Nepgear from a timeline either slightly behind hers (IE: Relive failures mode) or slightly different to hers (IE: Memories of her failures mode).


Not quite sure how it would interact with Nepgear's Health and Resilience though. Probably work by re-purposing the defense shield to protect Nepgear's body and adjusting Health to represent her body's ability to function. They could then either both be controlled via Levels in Indestructible Core or her shield could be through Indestructible Core and her body through Levels in No Longer Human, representing her upgrading her magical construct body. Core Purge wouldn't even really need rejigging, or at least much rejigging, since the HP cost would instead represent the damage being done by all that unleashed energy.
 
So with this in mind what would Indestructible Core do? Especially since it replaces both Armored Core and Core Containment? Well to my mind it does exactly what it says. In other words I think Indestructible Core literally makes Nepgear's Core indestructible.
The other option is to just follow the established pattern of the Armored Core series of abilities and boost the percentage to 95-99%. It'd still be incredibly bullshit that way, and we'd be just about impossible to kill by anything less than one of the Goddesses. Sadly, there is less story potential that way.
 
The other option is to just follow the established pattern of the Armored Core series of abilities and boost the percentage to 95-99%. It'd still be incredibly bullshit that way, and we'd be just about impossible to kill by anything less than one of the Goddesses. Sadly, there is less story potential that way.

Eh. There are two main flaws with that idea, which is honestly what got me thinking about it.

The first is that so far pretty much every single ability name we've seen describes exactly what it does. Armored Core armors our Core, Flight Boost boosts our flight, and Interceptor Fire gives us interceptor fire. So having Indestructible Core do something other then make our Core Indestructible would be odd.

The second is it's not a replacement for Armored Core. It's a replacement for Armored Core and Core Containment as seen here:
INDESTRUCTABLE CORE
-Adamantium Core
-Core Containment Level 10
-850 EXP
The ultimate CORE frame. Replaces Armored Core and Core Containment.
so it's effect kinda has to be more comprehensive then just upping the Armored Core percentage figure.


Edit: I also feel the need to point out how it's described as the ultimate CORE frame.
 
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Indestructible Core could also do something like make Nepgear untargetable by anything thing that only inflicts physical damage, but still leave her vulnerable to attacks that assault things such as the mind or soul.
 
The whole Core thing makes me think Nepgear's actual soul is a cross between a PMMM Soul Gem and a Getter Reactor. Indestructible Core could just mean unbreakable soulgem.
 
Anyone remember the Progenitor Frame and the Progenitor Golem invisitexts? Now consider this, there is a Progenitor Frame, while Indestructibe Core is the ultimate CORE Frame.

Maybe there's a connection somewhere?
 
Hmmm... interesting note. While we're fighting alongside Goddess White, we're going to be really rather hard to hurt, since there's a lower and upper bound on the amount of damage which can effect us.
 
I wonder if the human team members jump in would they be reduce to atoms or breaking their legs upon the force field?
Considering the fact that some time have passed and the magical girls could have fly out but could not would indicate its presence.
 
The other option is to just follow the established pattern of the Armored Core series of abilities and boost the percentage to 95-99%. It'd still be incredibly bullshit that way, and we'd be just about impossible to kill by anything less than one of the Goddesses. Sadly, there is less story potential that way.
I'd argue that it's more likely to be like Red Rose's To Stand Amongst Gods, or Goddess Whites Armor of the Time Lord. Introducing a maximum amount of damage we could take.

Combine that with the sheer damage reduction Nepgear has with Segarite Core, and you have a near-unkillable being.
Anyone remember the Progenitor Frame and the Progenitor Golem invisitexts? Now consider this, there is a Progenitor Frame, while Indestructibe Core is the ultimate CORE Frame.

Maybe there's a connection somewhere?
Probably. I'll note that "Progenitor" means "the thing that starts something", and the "Progenitor Frame" has "Progenitor Golems" and "Fractal Golems". And fractals are a repeating patterns, no matter if larger or smaller.

Frame produces Golems. Golems produce Golems of their own, which produce weaker versions of themselves, which repeat the process.

Also, something I thought of: Core Connection connects them to the ???? Core. Segarite Core is an upgrade that grants Nepgear 75% of her maximum health every turn, breaking the cap.

Would Core Connection allow them to heal the same way?
 
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I admit I'm curious now. @crystalwatcher could we get a character sheet for Shiva Sil or would that be spoilers?
Depends...


(Unaligned Front) Shiva and Sil

The Twin Gods of the End
Stats

Health: ????
Base Damage: ????
Base Resilience: ????
Magic Modifier: 33,222,111
Affinity: Beginning | End | Life | Death | Annihilation | Creation | Magic | Despair | Hope | World
Weapon

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Level ??
Attacks Per Turn: ??
Affinity: End | Death | Annihilation | Despair
Ability: Crush | Danmaku

Maidens of the Apocalypse
Level 300
Attacks Per Turn: N/A
Affinity: Annihilation | Despair | End | Death | World
Ability: Auto Assault | Autonomous Combat | Instant Recovery
Spells
Beginning of the End
Level ??
Base Damage: ??
Magic Modifier: ??
Affinity: Death | ???? | ????
Ability: ????

Ability

Beyond Good and Evil
-Neither Shiva nor Sil can be directly targeted by any attack that lacks sufficient range to effect a global change. Anything that falls short of such a scale is rendered ineffective and ignored.

Celestial Combat
-Shiva and Sil are capable of waging combat against planetary bodies and godlike beings.

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Is this what you were expecting?

I wonder if the human team members jump in would they be reduce to atoms or breaking their legs upon the force field?
Considering the fact that some time have passed and the magical girls could have fly out but could not would indicate its presence.
I don't get the question.
 
Well fuck. I think Gaia is looking amazing as a substitute mother for the shitty abusive one we had, wouldn't you all agree?
Well, it's more like she's everybody's thrice great Grandmother, because almost everybody knows about her and loves her but very few people get to meet her. Still, I can easily see her making a point to interact more with the best humanity has to offer, as her favoured children. Children who may or may not be taking their games of make-believe way, way too far, if the way that they can shoot lasers by thinking they can shoot lasers is any indication.

All of the other deity level life-creators are like those stereotypical Asian parents that never let their children do anything but study, but Gaia gives us video games and giant monsters pigs to kill, letting us grow as we may, and in the process we have grown in fascinating new directions, like untended bonsai creating through their struggles accidental scenes of beauty.

Something I ate has turned me prose-y. I need to determine what, so that I can get more: this is great.
 
Well it's good that it turned out like that in the worst case for that vote I saw we may have ended up with a permanently broken Goddess Gold.
 
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