This is rather untrue. While there was infighting, these agencies, especially the SD were still rather good at getting their men. Also, they will arrest you upon suspicion alone. They'll also nab your friends and family while they're at it.
While they fought over jurisdiction, beating your secrets out of you all three happily did. And were good at. Good enough that in terms of raw "I really don't want their attention on me!" the GeStaPo was only beaten by the GDR's StaSi which went on to create a surveillance effort to the tune of 1 in 60 people in the GDR working for the Stasi either offically or unofficially.
Also, minor quibble. The GeStaPo was for civilian cases. Abwehr military and the SD did both because the SS wanted to be extra special.
What do you mean here? I can't think of too many members of the Kriegsmarine who were convicted of top counts. Famously, Adm. Karl Doenitz was prosecuted for ordering unrestricted submarine warfare, but many officers of the Allied Navies, including no less than Adm Chester Nimitz, wrote in his defense, and he got off with only a handful of years in prison.
By and large, the German Navy stayed out of the atrocities that occurred on the mainland.
@Dirtnap That's probably a bit of a logical disconnect then. Why would Adm. Kidd by so eager to get back on Arizona if he didn't have a personal connection with her? It would also set Ari up for disappointment, as the connection that Adm. Thompson is referring to doesn't exist.
Also, as we've seen with Saratoga and Adm. Halsey, the girls can remember their commanders from before Thompson arrived. Which means, among others, Ari could probably remember Adm. Nimitz as well.
We'll need to see what her state of mind was -- Because I took the story to implying she had other things on her mind at the time and just couldn't recall the name at that given moment.
In any case, if Schreiber is indeed a time traveling teitoku I imagine his goal is similar to Thompsons, save as many of the girls as possible, even if that means it puts him against the girls in the RN. I'm curious if he's inserting his own ex post facto knowledge of events to influence things to come. I can't imagine he's too happy about being dropped into Nazi Germany, though.
Arpeggio Kongou is... actually about what I'd imagine IJN Kongou to be like, personality-wise. But that remains to be seen.
Of course, this will ultimately end up with three to four versions of Kongou all in one timeline and all in one place simply for the madness of it. And that place will probably be on Ari or Sara's deck, for optimal Thompson suffering.
All the while Little E and Kaga settle their differences with a game of Battleship, but only because there's no game called Fleet Carrier.
"This is unusual, I will admit," Lindemann turned his head, looking at the younger man by his side. Her XO, Hans Oels, returned the look as Lindemann continued speaking, "An Admiral does not normally come aboard a vessel that has yet to finish fitting out.
OK we just got confirmations of more than one time-traveling Admiral. Things are going to get sticky as 10 to 1 there is a Japanese Kanmusu experianced Admiral in this era as well.
This is going beyond butterflies and hitting Mothra flapping her wings.
I'm sure someone is going wild with conspiracy theories right now but as for my thoughts on it?
Schreiber is best served by staying in the Kreigsmarine and being its version of Erwin Rommel, or how the allied public percieved Rommel anyway, lets not debate about him here. A decent man under a regime he dislikes for its crimes doing his best to serve his country.
To be fair there were several men like that in the Kriegsmarine right now. Notably Lutjens, though he's not in the navy at the moment for fairly obvious reasons.
Would they be though? To be fair there weren't exactly many high-ranking naval officers left for the trials, but the point remains that (sans the sub campaign) the surface fleet didn't really do anything atrocity-wise.
On the other hand, just living through that would be hard on anyone.
Eh, IF (no confirmation, though reasonable to assume) if Scheriber IS a time traveler? And a former kammasu CO like James?
Bismark's defecting. Period. It's _hard_ to say how much the German military of 'here and now' _hate_ the Nazi party and all it stands for and what lessons were learned (yes, all services got heavy anti Nazi training post war, and kept it going) Combined with knowing shipgirls and what's quite possibly coming? The ONLY thing stopping him from defecting is the family of his officers and senior NCO's. If he can deal with those, he'll flee to Britian or the US. Hillariously, Bismark acutally doesn't LIKE Hilter... and what would Biscuit do if Schierbier tells her about the _CAMPS_?
You forget THAT aspect.
Also: In reference to Richardson and James off to DC. They're VERY lucky in a hilarious way. If any sitting president in US History (outside Carter, ironically!) is willing to accept shipgirls have souls, it would be FDR, then Teddy (Both Roosvelts were Navy manaics, but FDR took it to silly levels) while on the UK side... well. Churchill himself wasn't not fond of the ladies of the fleet.
Honestly, in relation to Bisko, I just don't see her liking Hitler much in all honesty. The man wasn't as much a fan of the navy in the way that, say, 'ole Kaiser Willy was. The moment it looked like the surface raiders weren't doing any good, he threatened to have them all scrapped for instance. Bismarck would pick up on this, to say the least.
Oh my, seems we've got a second time traveler on our hands. And a German admiral? Must've been really awkward being back in WWII-era Germany seeing how much the modern-day nation attempts to distance itself from that time period.
There was no one with the last name of 'Schreiber', serving as an Admiral in the Kriegsmarine, in WW2 or just prior to WW2.
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On the plus side, the Kriegsmarine, when viewed STRICTLY as 'in general'......loathed Hitler. They loathed the Nazi party. They loathed the whole idea behind the Reich. In order to be a good sailor, especially in the officer corps, the Kriegsmarine required a vastly higher education than what was required of the ground/air arms of the German military of that era. And most of them knew full well that if/when Germany went to war, it was going to be pounded into scrap unless a freaking miracle occurred.
As a bonus? This Schreiber has 70-80+ years of foreknowledge to work with in knowing which officer's ears to 'tweak', and where to grease certain wheels (or hands), in order to get things going the way he wants.
Sadly, he's still on the wrong side, and its a damn near given that he KNOWS he's on the losing side, but he's going to be loyal to his men and his country above all else.
With one possible exception: He almost certainly has a bone-deep & searing hatred of what the Nazi leadership is doing in secret that will tarnish and near-permanently stain Germany's cultural history/cultural psyche, and thus might very well put his nation's HONOR above all else. Even if it means he goes to the noose in order to preserve it.
Which of course also makes him absolutely the -deadliest- enemy for the Nazi leadership: a flag rank officer within their own ranks, with all that implies (as in all KINDS of political/industrial favors he can call in, or know where to look for them), who is dedicated to seeing the Nazis fall from power. What's worse from their perspective, is that he isn't a madman, but is very likely willing to cold-bloodedly plan things out and look at the long game, backed by decades of training.
There were certainly exceptions to be fair (there are in anything) but yeah. The KM in general- at least the surface fleet -was not horribly fond of the Nazis. Lutjens is the most famous example perhaps, but he's not the only one. Not to say they were all angels by any definition, but the point remains.
I'm fairly certain most of the KM ships would cry when they hear about those camps. Except maybe the old pre-dreadnoughts, who served in the Kaiserliche Marine. They would probably go straight to Roaring Rampage of Revenge levels of anger.
Hm. Seems like Adm. Wilson has acquired the Cough of DeathTM. He's not taking to the rapidity of the policy changes very well imo.
Her worries are understandable. I expect he'll make it back home though, but he won't be seeing Pearl again, either due to a forced medical retirement or passing away while Ari's undergoing refit.
Time to get ready for a different type of battleground, one arguably more dangerous than combat conditions.
Heh, I like Bismarck already.
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So, another time traveler is confirmed. I'm eager to see how he's going to shake things up, whether he's going to defect with Bismarck or not.
In September 1942, Willson was detached for duty with the United States Pacific Fleet, but before he could report to his new assignment was found medically unfit for sea duty.
Furthermore, he historically died in '48. So the man is under a lot more stress and pressure, already going to be unhealthy enough to be taken off active sea duty in a little under two years...yeah.
Something in my gut I don't know what but, heir german Admiral knows about his British counterpart and I'd almost be willing to bet the two of them are in contact, not constant contact mind you that'd get them both killed. With how hard Mothra is flapping those wings with those British attacks......
Well, I wouldn't say they were that anti Nazi. With a society where Nazism is so deeply ingrained, a good number of the KM servicemen are going to have some Nazi leanings. Granted, surface warfare less so, but the U boat service was incredibly Nazi. I guess only zealots would sign up for 70% losses.
Well, Thompson only has to worry about being kicked out of the service and into an institution. Not a fun time, but...better than the tender mercies of the Nazi party.
This is rather untrue. While there was infighting, these agencies, especially the SD were still rather good at getting their men. Also, they will arrest you upon suspicion alone. They'll also nab your friends and family while they're at it.
While they fought over jurisdiction, beating your secrets out of you all three happily did. And were good at. Good enough that in terms of raw "I really don't want their attention on me!" the GeStaPo was only beaten by the GDR's StaSi which went on to create a surveillance effort to the tune of 1 in 60 people in the GDR working for the Stasi either offically or unofficially.
Also, minor quibble. The GeStaPo was for civilian cases. Abwehr military and the SD did both because the SS wanted to be extra special.
In any case, if Schreiber is indeed a time traveling teitoku I imagine his goal is similar to Thompsons, save as many of the girls as possible, even if that means it puts him against the girls in the RN. I'm curious if he's inserting his own ex post facto knowledge of events to influence things to come. I can't imagine he's too happy about being dropped into Nazi Germany, though.
Furthermore, he historically died in '48. So the man is under a lot more stress and pressure, already going to be unhealthy enough to be taken off active sea duty in a little under two years...yeah.
Assuming we're using Kancolle Iowa and not using an original version --
Thompson would be resigned. He'd served with her before, or at the very least be mentally prepared for it. Halsey would most likely vehemently disapprove. Don't know about Jackson though.
I just want Canon!Iowa in a pretty sundress. Is that too hard of a goal to wish for?
I guess Pacific!Iowa is perfect for CD, since Iowa is honourable, like Yamato. Besides, Kancolle!Iowa has been afloat for nearly 80 years so her memories are sort of busted up.
The question is now how would the Admirals react to Jersey's dress.....
I'm more worried about how people might react to the type and size of the ship influencing the apparent age and maturity of the shipgirl. Has anyone but Thompson seen a destroyer yet? Even the older-looking DDs seem pretty clearly under the age of enlistment and I bet that's going to make a lot of folks uncomfortable...
I actually like the KC Iowa design more since you can tell that she's a ship without her rigging. The first picture I see of Pacific Iowa I thought it was Jenny (placeholder name) from high school.
That because (by word of Morgane) the Pacific team focus more girl first then ship while KC is ship first then girl.
I actually like the KC Iowa design more since you can tell that she's a ship without her rigging. The first picture I see of Pacific Iowa I thought it was Jenny (placeholder name) from high school.
That because (by word of Morgane) the Pacific team focus more girl first then ship while KC is ship first then girl.
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