Changing Destiny (Kancolle)

If by Strategically you mean he was aware of what was going on? Sure. But he wasn't even in Strategic command of the battle at all, that was nominally Fletcher (who was both a DD commander and a Battleship commander (he even earned a medal of honor as the commander of USS Florida)), though ironically he defaulted to Spruance for most of the command (who in turn defaulted to the Captain of the ship).
Spruance defaulted for air operations to those who knew aircraft operations, which was perfectly reasonable. Any other decisions he made himself.

As a note, one of the few commands we know Spruance gave himself separated the bombers and the fighters, thus leaving the bombers without escort, something that cost a lot of pilots and planes out of the first attack wave.
Enterprise was very slow in spotting her fighters and torpedo planes, the dive bombers were already airborne and burning fuel waiting for the deck to be spotted again. As it was, many dive bombers would ditch later that day because of fuel exhaustion as it was. Also the Japanese recon plane shadowing the US carriers had been sighted.

At this point Spruance got the dive bombers on their way unescorted lest they run out of fuel without getting to the enemy or got caught in a Japanese strike while circling over their own ship, which is something different than "he separated the bombers and the fighters". Five or six dive bombers splashed during or shortly after the attack. Perfectly acceptable for sinking two fleet carriers.
 
Spruance defaulted for air operations to those who knew aircraft operations, which was perfectly reasonable. Any other decisions he made himself.
Wasn't saying it wasn't reasonable. Was saying it was what happened. He can't, or rather shouldn't, be credited for what he didn't do.
Enterprise was very slow in spotting her fighters and torpedo planes, the dive bombers were already airborne and burning fuel waiting for the deck to be spotted again. As it was, many dive bombers would ditch later that day because of fuel exhaustion as it was. Also the Japanese recon plane shadowing the US carriers had been sighted.

At this point Spruance got the dive bombers on their way unescorted lest they run out of fuel without getting to the enemy or got caught in a Japanese strike while circling over their own ship, which is something different than "he separated the bombers and the fighters". Five or six dive bombers splashed during or shortly after the attack. Perfectly acceptable for sinking two fleet carriers.
They sunk nothing in that attack however. Akagi was scuttled by the Japanese themselves and Kaga didn't sink for several hours. On top of that that first wave of planes to reach the Kido Butai wasn't even VB-6 It was Hornet's Torpedo 8 squadron, who ever to a plane shot down and only one managed to even drop it's payload, out of the 30 men in that single attack wave only one survived. Then E's torpedoes arrived, and also completely failed (two of her planes survived the attempt admittedly... though only one managed to make it back to E).

The dive bombers did admittedly do better, but only because Arashi had been trying to depth charge Nautilus for a while and was trying to hurry back to the fleet. It literally led them to the Kido Butai. Without that, the bombers would have completely missed even encountering the Japanese. Even then, they only succeeded in doing the damage they did because, because of their own tardiness to the battle, the Japanese weren't even vaguely ready to defend against them, the Torpedo bombers having scattered the ships away from each other, the fighters busy toying with the remnants of one of the torpedo squadrons (what exactly they were doing I'm not sure, the information I'm looking at doesn't specify), and the AA guns not really ready to be used against a Dive Bomber assault.

So yes, him sending the dive bombers off without escort didn't hurt the bombers. But the lack of an actually well coordinated strike resulted in a nearly total loss of torpedo bombers and one fighter squadron never even knowing it's torpedo squadron had already been shot down.
 
Whoops! Was looking at Arleigh Burke's wiki, and mixed up one part with Spruance. Ack.

Fletcher was indeed nominally in command as the senior-most officer, but as you mentioned, he deferred to Spruance at the strategic level. Spruance outright turned over all tactical command (aka: command of Enterprise herself) to the ship's CO, but that still meant he was effectively in control of the fleet/taskforce's entire air wing, which is where Carriers are truly important anyways. And yes, he messed up with the bombers, but that first attack wave was going to be chewed up anyways due to a fully intact CAP.

To be fair the Devastator was a sitting duck compared to the Dauntless, and mounting Mark 13s* just made a bad situation worse for them. Get that proximity fuse fixed prior to Pearl, or at least prior to when Midway 'would' have occurred, and suddenly the Mark 13s (and Mark 14s* as well) suddenly get a whole lot nastier. That and the Devastator squadrons likely would have at least died knowing they put one hell of a hole in the side of at least one IJN carrier, rather then all die for effectively nothing.

* Adm. Ralph Christie can go fuck himself
 
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They sunk nothing in that attack however. Akagi was scuttled by the Japanese themselves and Kaga didn't sink for several hours.
Well, I've never heard someone suggesting that the American dive bombers didn't sink the Japanese carriers before.

On top of that that first wave of planes to reach the Kido Butai wasn't even VB-6
So what? The US wasn't yet capable of making a combined attack except for the veteran Yorktown air group. This was not caused by Spruance sending the Enterprise dive bombers on their way. Hornet for example didn't manage either despite having a very experienced captain.

the fighters busy toying with the remnants of one of the torpedo squadrons (what exactly they were doing I'm not sure, the information I'm looking at doesn't specify)
The fighters chasing the VT-6 survivors ran headlong into the attacking VT-3. When Akagi, Kaga and Soryu were being bombed, VT-3 was still attacking and drawing the fighter attention.
 
Whoops! Was looking at Arleigh Burke's wiki, and mixed up one part with Spruance. Ack.

Fletcher was indeed nominally in command as the senior-most officer, but as you mentioned, he deferred to Spruance at the strategic level. Spruance outright turned over all tactical command (aka: command of Enterprise herself) to the ship's CO, but that still meant he was effectively in control of the fleet/taskforce's entire air wing, which is where Carriers are truly important anyways. And yes, he messed up with the bombers, but that first attack wave was going to be chewed up anyways due to a fully intact CAP.

To be fair the Devastator was a sitting duck compared to the Dauntless, and mounting Mark 13s* just made a bad situation worse for them. Get that proximity fuse fixed prior to Pearl, or at least prior to when Midway 'would' have occurred, and suddenly the Mark 13s (and Mark 14s* as well) suddenly get a whole lot nastier. That and the Devastator squadrons likely would have at least died knowing they put one hell of a hole in the side of at least one IJN carrier, rather then all die for effectively nothing.

* Adm. Ralph Christie can go fuck himself
As a note, only two or three of the grand total something like 25-30 torpedo bombers that managed to reach the kido butai even got off torpedo strikes. And none of them hit in the first place for the shitty fuses to come in play.
Well, I've never heard someone suggesting that the American dive bombers didn't sink the Japanese carriers before.
Never said the bombers weren't ultimately responsible. Just that Kaga did not sink as part of the attack, but hours later due to horrible DamCon. And Akagi was scuttled to prevent american capture.
So what? The US wasn't yet capable of making a combined attack except for the veteran Yorktown air group. This was not caused by Spruance sending the Enterprise dive bombers on their way. Hornet for example didn't manage either despite having a very experienced captain.
You'll note that it wasn't even JUST him sending them on their way that fucked it up. It was also extremely shitty handling of making sure fighters were following the correct bomber group, and in giving accurate instructions. As well as they gave no Point Option to the bombers (something that contributed to only one of the squadrons managing to actually locate the Enterprise again, much less land). Plus there was superbly horrible communication involved between Enterprise and Hornet (Hornet was repeatedly not notified that an attack was going out until just before it was going to occur.).

But you're right in that sending the bombers without escort didn't bite the bombers in the ass... because the CAP and AA and in fact positioning of the Japanese carriers was all fucked up on account of the failed torpedo attack. If they had gotten there alone and first, instead of being last to the party, they'd have had a much different beast to deal with.
The fighters chasing the VT-6 survivors ran headlong into the attacking VT-3. When Akagi, Kaga and Soryu were being bombed, VT-3 was still attacking and drawing the fighter attention.
Ah, that does explain a bit of that. Though the information I'm seeing is that VT-3 itself was the remnants being swarmed over (which was likely unnecessary).
 
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Ah, that does explain a bit of that. Though the information I'm seeing is that VT-3 itself was the remnants being swarmed over (which was likely unnecessary).
Yorktown's group attacked as one, but the Devastator is much slower than the Dauntless, so their part of the attack took longer by simple physics. Meanwhile, the Yorktown and Enterprise dive bombers went in.
 
Yorktown's group attacked as one, but the Devastator is much slower than the Dauntless, so their part of the attack took longer by simple physics. Meanwhile, the Yorktown and Enterprise dive bombers went in.
As a note, none of VT 6, or 8 were Dauntlesses. They were all TBD Devastators launched from E and Hornet. Now VT-3 was from Yorktown, but they were also flying Devastators. They also arrived after E and Hornet's planes because they were launched some time later. (only after E and Hornet had positively identified and located the carriers).

This throws your idea that Yorktown attacked together but VT-3 took longer... because it actually got there *before* any of the Dauntlesses did. In fact, despite Yorktown having by far the more experienced pilots. In fact, Yorktown's SDB's didn't even reach the Kido Butai till the same time E's did, mind you this is *after* missing them by miles when Nagumo turned straight north and nearly missing them again after turning northwest. They only found them at all because of Arashi, who had been attempting to kill Nautilus and was rushing back to the fleet. Meaning Yorktown's SDB's were likely around 20ish minutes behind their torpedo bombers.

As a timeline, VT-3, yorktown's squadron, started it's attack run at 1002 which is around the time that E's bombers found the Kido Butai. No SDB's fell on any of the japanese carriers till 1022, twenty minutes later.
 
As a note, none of VT 6, or 8 were Dauntlesses. They were all TBD Devastators launched from E and Hornet.
That is what the 'T' in their name means; VT squadrons are torpedo bombers and at Midway the carrier torpedo bombers were all the obsolete Devastators.

Now VT-3 was from Yorktown, but they were also flying Devastators. They also arrived after E and Hornet's planes because they were launched some time later. (only after E and Hornet had positively identified and located the carriers). This throws your idea that Yorktown attacked together but VT-3 took longer... because it actually got there *before* any of the Dauntlesses did.
It is not 'my idea', it is what is described in 'Shattered Sword'. Which is generally considered the definitive description of the battle.

VT-3 was spotted from Akagi at 1006, but they missed the dive bombers and fighters of VB-3 and VF-3 above them. This concentrated the Japanese CAP against the new threat, but through this the Zeroes missed the dive bombers flying in. VT-3 and the six VF-3 fighters defending them got over forty Zeroes or so to contend with.

At 1020 VB-3 and VT-3 leaders communicated whether they were ready to launch their attacks, and both were, although the Zeroes arrived over VT-3 moments later.

From 1022 to1025 the dive bombers struck, the much slower VT-3 Devastators made their attacks against Hiryu from 1035-1040.

Source: Shattered Sword, pages 220 to 242.
 
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That is what the 'T' in their name means; VT squadrons are torpedo bombers and at Midway the carrier torpedo bombers were all the obsolete Devastators.

It is not 'my idea', it is what is described in 'Shattered Sword'. Which is generally considered the definitive description of the battle.

VT-3 was spotted from Akagi at 1006, but they missed the dive bombers and fighters of VB-3 and VF-3 above them. This concentrated the Japanese CAP against the new threat, but through this the Zeroes missed the dive bombers flying in. VT-3 and the six VF-3 fighters defending them got over forty Zeroes or so to contend with.

At 1020 VB-3 and VT-3 leaders communicated whether they were ready to launch their attacks, and both were, although the Zeroes arrived over VT-3 moments later.

From 1022 to1025 the dive bombers struck, the much slower VT-3 Devastators made their attacks against Hiryu from 1035-1040.

Source: Shattered Sword, pages 220 to 242.
Which is funny, because the source I'm looking at has VT-3's attack floundering as Enterprise's SDB's *spot* the Kido Butai, with the attack from E and Yorktown's SDB's dive on Soryu, Akagi, and Kaga 20 minutes later.

Source. And Their Reference List Is A Long One.
 
Which is funny, because the source I'm looking at has VT-3's attack floundering as Enterprise's SDB's *spot* the Kido Butai, with the attack from E and Yorktown's SDB's dive on Soryu, Akagi, and Kaga 20 minutes later.

Source. And Their Reference List Is A Long One.
Your source has a date on it of 2003, which is two years before 'Shattered Sword' was published.

Despite this, it's sources include 'Shattered Sword', though presumably they didn't pay it sufficient attention. It is the most recent of their sources. Lundstrom is in that list too, though.

Lundstrom, another very well regarded source, also claims that the Yorktown air group attacked as one unit, specifically noting the VT-3 Devastators as being 14 miles out at 1010 (page 351) -- the point where the narrative of your source already has them shot down or about to be. He also mentions Massey (the VT-6 squadron leader) asking for urgent fighter support at 1020 (page 360) and releasing their torpedoes a few hundred meters from Hiryu shortly after 1030 (page 362). At this point, the three other carriers were already on fire.

While it is a long list of sources, few of them are about Midway itself, many are generic histories, sometimes from directly after the war, and there are also numerous pictorials, camouflage references and the like. And, of course, he may list sources but his narrative text then contradicts them.
 
Chapter 17
Chapter 17:

You know, this is not exactly how I expected this to happen.

Admiral Thompson sighed softly, as he looked at the paper in his hands. Halsey sat across from him, and Enterprise looked between the two men with clear confusion written across her face. Granted, he would have preferred to have Sara in that position. The Admiral trusted Enterprise with his life, of course. She was Enterprise. But, he missed having his friend there with him all the same. Hell, Sara would probably have some good advice for him right about now.

But no.

He was on his own here, staring down the paper that refused to change or spontaneously burn up. Which would be nice, since it might get his mind off it. Since that was hardly likely to happen though...

"Taranto," Thompson finally spoke up, looking up at Halsey.

"Taranto," the other Admiral replied, nodding along. Though the nod was directed at Enterprise, who snapped to attention.

She had been doing that a lot, lately. Ever since Halsey was able to see her, every time that Thompson came to Big E, the carrier was acting more and more like a proper sailor. It was an interesting transformation to watch, actually. Hell, he could still remember what she was like the first time he was here. All timid and shy, but eager to please. Now she was acting...well. Still timid as all hell, but at least a bit more like a sailor.

It was nice to see, in a way, wasn't it? More familiar at least.

"Sara is connected, Admiral," Enterprise spoke up, her voice pitched just right to mimic Halsey himself.

If the twitch of the man's lips was any indication, it amused him. The Admiral nodded at his carrier, before turning to Thompson again, "Well, James?"

"I still wish I was doing this on Sara," the younger man replied, getting a raised eyebrow from his counterpart. Sighing, Thompson nodded and held the paper up. No delaying, apparently. "British hit the Italians napping. Glorious and Eagle, they lost six bombers in exchange for one Italian battleship sunk, and two crippled. Not bad, considering it was a night attack."

"Hm..." Sara hummed in thought, her voice carrying through the room. "I wonder. We, Lex and I, have demonstrated the vulnerability of the fleet here at Pearl several times now Admiral. But never at night."

Halsey grunted softly, laying a hand on the table as sharp eyes bored into Thompson. Who still felt uncomfortable under that gaze, completely unused to working with Bull Halsey, even now.

"I've seen the Fleet Problems. Pearl is at risk, yes. But I find it very hard to believe the Japs would ever manage a night attack from across the entire goddamn Pacific."

Thompson shrugged, placing the paper back down. He knew the answer, of course. The Japanese wouldn't try a night attack, but they didn't need to. Hitting Pearl on a Sunday morning worked just as well, now didn't it? It had worked better than the Taranto raid. And that was what he was trying to prevent, no matter what it took to do it.

"I don't think they would, honestly." Thompson continued. He hated lying. If Halsey ever caught him out on it, an ass-chewing was the least of his worries. But one step at a time, and the other Admiral was sure as hell not ready to know the full truth. "But, if the Brits can do this with two antique carriers, I wonder what Japan could do with two antiques and two modern carriers?"

In the background, Enterprise frowned. The blonde carrier walked up to the table, tilting her head down at the seated Admirals. More specifically, she tilted it at Thompson. He looked right back up, leaning back slightly. Maybe she didn't realize it, but Little E's red eyes made her stare quite...intense. Regardless of how young she was.

"Four carriers...we have four in the Pacific too, Admiral." Enterprise finally spoke up, honest confusion in her tone. Her head tilted to the side slightly, the carrier tapping the table in thought. "And aren't two of them the same as Aunt Lex and Sara?"

"Aunt?" Halsey raised an eyebrow, looking at his carrier. Daughter. Whatever one was calling her now.

Enterprise blushed brightly, as Sara giggled over the radio. Thompson just sighed, though his mouth twitched up into a smile. Seemed like every time Little E opened her mouth, she managed to embarrass herself. It was almost...ah screw it. It was cute as all hell, even if it was nothing like the E he remembered.

"At any rate," still, he took pity on the poor carrier. Enterprise sent him a grateful look, as the Admiral continued speaking. "Lex and Sara are a hell of a lot better than Akagi and Kaga. So no, they may be the same age, but I'd bet on Sara over them, ten times out of ten."

Maybe he was a little biased, so what? Either way, the fact did remain that Lex and Sara were much better conversions than Akagi or Kaga could ever hope to be. That was just simple facts, no offense to the girls in question. Akagi may have been a friend, but that didn't change the truth. Especially not...not when he would have to fight her, at some point in the future.

One step at a time Thompson, one step at a time.

"Thank you for the vote of confidence, Admiral," for her part, Sara's voice had changed. The carrier was much more subdued and sounded thankful.

Smiling, Thompson shook his head. Just like with Little E, he sometimes forgot this Sara wasn't as confident in her abilities as the one he remembered. She was still the kind, great friend he remembered. But on the other hand, he needed to remember the differences. Even now, months later, it wasn't always easy.

He wished he could be with Sara to place a hand on her shoulder. Remind her that he trusted her implicitly. But he wasn't. And as such...

"Not a problem, Sara," the Admiral replied, smile not fading. Even if he knew she couldn't see it. "Anyway, Glorious and Eagle aren't anything to write home about either. If the British can do it, you can bet the Japanese will at least try, if we ever end up at war."

Halsey scowled as the younger man finished, placing his hands on the report. His eyes narrowed, the Admiral looking like...well, like Thompson might have expected. "I'd like to see the sons of bitches try. They'd have to get past us first."

And there was the other problem. Thompson sighed inwardly, as he resisted every urge to shake his head. Halsey was a very confident man, to say the least. And it was hardly his place to judge him, wasn't it? This was Bull Halsey. But...but...

Even the best could be wrong.

"They don't have to," Thompson spoke, pointing at Enterprise. "We only have Sara and Enterprise here right now. You can't tell me, Bill, that we'll always have all our carriers around Pearl. Or that even if we do, they can't be snuck past. Or sneak attacked."

"You really think they'll hit Pearl, James?" Halsey replied, seemingly ignoring what the younger Admiral had said. Instead, the square-faced man got to his feet, walking over to the porthole overlooking the harbor. Halsey remained silent as he did so, doing nothing but looking out the window.

"Admiral?" Enterprise, at least, was confused by this. She looked torn between going to Halsey's side, and staying where she was.

"You know, I would have thought the Japs would hit the Philippines or the Dutch first. That's what all our plans are built around." The older Admiral finally spoke, not turning from the window. "Hell, it's what I'd do in their shoes. Hit hard and fast, take what you need. I can sure as hell tell you that MacArthur aside, you won't find a man off the street who wants to fight a war over the Philippines."

"I don't blame them." Thompson sighed, even as he spoke those words. Because...

Well, actually I do but got to act the part.

He couldn't say what he really felt. Leaving East Asia to the Japanese was far from a good thing. He knew that. But it was just him. No one else in the American leadership would or could. And the average Joe on the street? What real reason would they have to care about a bunch of islands halfway across the world, when Germany was rampaging through Europe? Hell, he even understood why they felt how they did!

But that didn't mean he liked it. Thompson sighed again, clenching his fist under the table. Sometimes, he really did hate being in the time he was in.

"But, on the other hand, Taranto," the Admiral tapped at the paper still sitting on the desk. "The Japanese aren't fools. They'll know an attack on a defended port is possible. If they could cripple our navy at dock like the Brits did to the Italians..."

Halsey grunted, "Yeah, I do see what you mean James. I think it's a damn fool move of them, but then, anyone can make a fool of themselves. So, what do you expect to do about it?"

Thompson blinked slowly at that question, as Halsey finally turned around. The older man walked over to the Admiral, his footsteps echoing through the room. Not that the younger man was particularly focused on that. He gulped slightly, still hating being put on the spot by Halsey like this. It never got easy damn it.

Even so, nothing to but damn the torpedoes and go full speed ahead.

"Well..."



"Hm."

If staring down Halsey had been bad, Thompson was inclined to argue that staring Admiral Richardson down was at least a close second. He stood in front of his overall commander, with his fellow Carrier skipper beside him. They had both discussed plans long and hard before this, collaborating with both Sara and Enterprise. And now, it was up to him to put those plans into action. No pressure, right?

"I will be level with you, Admiral Thompson," Richardson continued, tapping a finger against his desk in thought. "I am well aware of how vulnerable Hawaii is to attack. I have seen the Fleet Problems, and have brought this to Washington numerous times since the move from San Diego. You do not need to convince me of the danger."

"Sir?" Thompson blinked slowly, looking at Richardson. He didn't need to...

Wait.

Ah...right.

Richardson had been sacked from his position entirely because he kept trying to argue the point that Pearl wasn't ready to serve as the main anchorage for the Pacific Fleet. He had argued long and hard that the fleet should stay at San Diego, at least until Pearl was ready to be properly defended. Well then, that was a weight off his shoulders. Thompson resisted the urge to slump slightly in relief, as his heart felt lighter than it had in months.

"However."

And just like that his head was back up. Admiral Richardson reached up, pulling off his glasses. The elder man absently rubbed them with a cloth, though his sharp eyes never left his subordinates.

"Why are you bringing this to my attention now?"

Thompson sighed softly, placing a hand on his pocket, where the report from Taranto still rested. It wasn't much. Hadn't done any real good in the past he remembered. But it was all they had right now, and he was going to make the most of it, no matter what.

"Taranto, sir," the Admiral replied, clenching his fist on the report. "The British have proven an attack on a defended fleet base is possible, outside our own Fleet Problems. If the Japanese are paying any attention at all..."

"The sons of bitches might try the same." Halsey finished, crossing his arms over his broad chest. The bull-headed Admiral looked at Richardson with an appraising eye, judging his nominal superior carefully. "James has valid points. I still find it hard to believe they'd be stupid enough to attack American land first, but if they do, we need to be ready to give them a licking they'll never forget."

"Hm," all Admiral Richardson did in response was put his glasses back on, and walk around his desk. His footsteps were heavy, the measured steps of a man confident in his position. Not a man who was going to hold back on anything. "I told you both already, you do not need to convince me. I have been saying this from the day we moved to Pearl, and will continue as long as I am in a position to do so. I have made studying the Japanese Navy my life's work, gentlemen. I daresay I understand more about them than anyone in our Navy."

It took everything Thompson had to not counter that point. He knew more about the Japanese than even Richardson. Hell, he knew more about the Japanese than the Japanese did! His time in Japan. Talking with Akagi and Kongou. How they...his friends...no. No.

The Admiral clenched his fist again, the bite of his nails in his palm getting his mind off those memories. It wouldn't do to think about happier times, not when they were enemies now. All he could do was move forward, and try not to think about...about fighting them. At any rate, as the dull pain in his hand focused his mind on a different tack, Thompson knew he couldn't say what he did know. Richardson had indeed spent much more time and effort, and trying to counter that was pointless. And dangerous, for that matter.

It wouldn't do to get caught out knowing things I can't explain away...

"But, if we also lend our support," Thompson began, pushing the stray thoughts out of mind. At least for now. "Would that be..."

"No."

The reply was short. The tone final. Admiral Richardson shook his head, looking first at Thompson, then Halsey. And then back to the erstwhile time-traveler, who felt like he was under a microscope once again.

"You're young, James." Richardson continued, an ever so slight sigh coming from deep within his chest. The elder man placed his hands to his side, looking for all the world like a man with too much weight on his shoulders.

That was a feeling Thompson could understand. His breath caught in his throat, as he thought about that. Damn it...maybe he had more in common with his fellow Admirals than he thought.

It was something to keep in mind, at the least.

"You and Bill have long careers ahead of you. You're the best carrier men we have, and I won't see either of you sacked trying to help me. If Washington will listen, they will. If they won't, I will be the only one taking the fall. We need men like you two on our frontline, if a war does come." Admiral Richardson shook his head, a wry smile crossing his lips. A very small smile, but one nonetheless. "Someone will have to make sure all the work you've done doesn't go to waste. I'll pull what strings I can, and get more defenses set up. That's the most I can do."

Thompson opened his mouth, ready to deny the point. He wasn't going to lose the support of the one man who could make Pearl safe. But even as the words formed, they just as quickly died in his throat. All he could do was let out a defeated sigh, aware that arguing was pointless. Never argue with a superior officer, no matter the situation, eh?

So instead of arguing, all Thompson could say was a simple, "Yes sir."

"Good," Richardson nodded back, as he walked back around his desk. The man tapped at the wood, as his eyes moved towards the door into his office, though. "Now, there is something you two can do to help me. He should be arriving momentarily."

"He?"

"Who?"

Thompson and Halsey looked at each other out of the corner of their eyes. The time-traveler had to hold back a snort, while Halsey's lip twitched. Richardson merely raised an eyebrow from behind his desk, as knocking came from the door. Loud knocking, that made Thompson flinch slightly. The room was entirely too quiet...when no one was talking.

"Permission to enter, sir?" A gruff voice spoke from behind the door, muffled only slightly by the wood.

That was the voice of an old sailor if there ever was one.

"Granted," Admiral Richardson replied shortly.

The door creaked open, hinges squeaking as a short, grizzled man entered. His face bore several scars, and somehow managed to look even more gruff than Halsey. If anything, it was like someone had taken the stereotypical 'tough old sailor' and given it form. He was grizzled, grey hair sticking out from under a tattered cover. He wasn't particularly buff, but there was a measure of strength in the man's confident gait nonetheless. This was a man who had been there and done that, for years.

"Commander Jackson, reporting, Admiral," the man spoke again, his voice every bit as gruff as his expression. It was a good match for Halsey, honestly. Sharp grey eyes roamed the room as he spoke, seemingly only just noticing that it was more than one Admiral, leading the man to correct his statement. "Admirals."

Richardson nodded at the man, before turning his own eyes back on Thompson and Halsey. "Commander Jackson is the chief engineer over on Utah. Closest to an XO the old girl has. He has something quite interesting to report, I believe."

"Utah?" Thompson echoed, confusion lacing his tone. Short-lived confusion, as his eyes widened despite every urge he had not to show his reaction. Damn it...damn it...

Oh...shit. Did she...?



Sometime before the meeting between the Admirals, Utah walked the deck of her aging hull. The old battleship held her head high, as her heels clacked over her deck. Each step was carefully measured. Her feet paced along the old wood, a slight give in her step that was not there when she was younger. Much like the rest of her hull, her deck was aging fast. Such was the life of a target ship. At one point in time, she had been fine with this. But now?

Now, Utah felt her steps slowing. Her petite hand, unmarred by the repeat bombardments her hull was subjected to, clenched in her grey dress. The old battleship squeezed tightly, the fabric running over her fingers.

I...I sometimes wonder. Will I ever talk with anyone but Admiral Thompson or Admiral Halsey? And even then...

Even then, she was only able to talk with Admiral Halsey by virtue of Enterprise. Utah clenched her fist tighter, a spurt of anger running through her chest. The fiery feeling was quick to fade however, replaced by the empty feeling she was quite familiar with now. She couldn't stay angry at Little E. However much it pained the old battleship, to know that Enterprise had done what she had failed at.

It never got easier.

"I don't know how Arizona deals with this," Utah whispered, her voice soft as a feather. The battleship let her hand drop, as she resumed her pacing. None of her crew were on deck, small as her 'crew' was. It was merely her, and her alone. Nothing but the sound of her feet, and the activities of a major naval base. That said, even as she whispered that question, Utah had her answer. "Of course, she is perfectly fine with just Admiral Thompson."

It was enough to bring a small smile to the old battleship's face. Arizona had no idea what she was feeling, but Utah did. Oh, to be young.

Still, the smile faded just as her earlier anger. Utah truly did appreciate and value Admiral Thompson. He had done what no one had done, in her long service. Talk to her. Prove that she could talk, and not just be a silent observer. Not even her predecessors had known that, and at one point, Utah had felt special. Being among the first few who could talk with an Admiral.

Now?

Now, she just felt empty. Talking with people was nice. But she longed to talk with her own crew. Prove that she could talk with more than just a special Admiral from the future...or one who loved his ship like a daughter, in the case of Admiral Halsey.

"Nothing I do works," the old girl sighed, as she came to a halt. Her old barbette...where she came, when the melancholy overwhelmed her. This had once marked her as the most powerful battleship on Earth, or so she liked to think. Now, it was just a reminder that her time was coming to a close. Her second lease on life...the life of a target ship.

It would never last forever. She knew that, and Utah honestly believed that her daughters knew as well. They never said anything, but they probably knew. It was why her failures to communicate hit her so hard. The old battleship's time was limited, and if she couldn't make a breakthrough...she may never do so.

"Love. I haven't had a commander who loved me since the Great War..."

Sighing again, Utah leaned against her barbette. Her slender legs bent underneath her, as the battleship slid down the cool metal. Her dress hardly provided much resistance, as the rough and cold object brushed her back. The chill barely impacted her though, as her stern impacted the wood of her deck. Utah pulled her legs up, wrapping her arms around the limbs. Her head was tucked into her knees, grey eyes looking out at the gentle waves lapping against her hull.

Looking, but not seeing. Her focus was internal. She barely felt her own heart beat, as she focused on her thoughts. Utah clenched her arms, trying to keep the depressing thoughts from overwhelming her, at least.

"I...I just wish someone could hear me. It...it does not matter who. Someone...anyone...please..."

Utah felt the burning in her eyes, long before she felt the wetness. But she felt both, as hot tears formed, her shoulders shaking. She would never let anyone see this side of her. Leave alone her daughters. But here, and now? She was alone. No one could see or hear her, as he old battleship let herself go. She needed to vent her feelings, somehow. Letting her tears out was as good a way as any, right?

I'm so weak. I should be stronger than this, for my daughters. For Admiral Thompson. For myself...

"Hey, who are you?"

At first, Utah assumed she was hearing things. Her sorrow-addled mind playing tricks on her. It wouldn't be the first time.

But...

This was different. The voice she had heard...the gruff, no-nonsense tone. That was not like her imaginings. No, that was a familiar voice for a much different reason. The old girl lifted her head from her knees, tear-streaks lining her cheeks. She made no effort to wipe them, or the tears still lingering in her grey eyes. Utah, instead, looked over her legs. A familiar face stared down at her, the grizzled features of her...chief engineer. Joe Jackson.

"Miss, I'm sorry to say, but you can't stay here. This is a warship, despite...her condition." Jackson's voice, still gruff, was less biting than it normally would be. He clearly thought she was a civilian. And he was holding back because of that. But...

"You can see me?" Utah's voice cracked, hope lining each and every syllable.

I...

Jackson frowned, looking down on the battleship. His sharp eyes roamed up and down, examining her closely. Utah didn't feel uncomfortable though. There was nothing lustful in that gaze, and even if there were, she found it hard to care. He could...he could see her!

"'Course I can Miss..." the gruff man, her XO, continued. Confusion was clear in his tone, as the old veteran looked over the battleship. He was clearly asking who she was.

"Utah. USS Utah."

The old engineer actually flinched back slightly, his eyes narrowing in suspicion. He reached a hand out, tapping Utah's leg. Like he was testing to see if she was really there.

Of course, all it did was make Utah gasp in shock and...well...happiness. Because his finger pushed against her leg, the feeling unlike anything she had ever experienced before. Utah had walkedthrough her crew, sometimes. That was like ice water down her spine. Jackson's poke, on the other hand, was warmth. Warmth unlike anything she had felt. Was this why Arizona was so happy to hug Admiral Thompson?

"Hm. You aren't any ghost, I can say that much," Jackson frowned deeply, the expression tugging on his scars and making him appear more formidable than usual. "'else I wouldn't be able to touch you. But...Utah?"

"I'm not lying, sir. I can tell you anything you need to convince you. Ask me any question you want!"

Utah was aware she was babbling. Her normally calm and motherly tone was gone, replaced by the excitable girl she once was, so many years ago. And could she be blamed for that? She wastalking with her XO. Not Admiral Thompson. Not Admiral Halsey. Her own crewmember!

"Hm. I'll hold ya to that," Jackson didn't dismiss her out of hand, as he continued to examine the old battleship carefully. He tapped his chin, attentive eyes locking on to Utah's own grey. "I heard the rumors from 'ole Johnny. Didn't think he was telling the truth, when he said Halsey ordered around the ghost of Big E. But...maybe there was some truth there. Prove it to me."

A smile crossed the battleship's face, as she set about doing just that. She hadn't made the breakthrough herself. It had been pure chance.

But she was talking with her XO, and that was all that mattered to her.
 
Hum. How to say 'yes, theese are the ghosts of your fleet' in such a way as not to get committed?

"There are manifestations that might show themselves to those with a significant connections to their ships. They can think, they can speak, and they can communicate with each other. They have worked rather hard to connect with and to be able to communicate with their captains and crews lately. They know their ships history, very well indeed. They were there. For all practical purposes, they are the spirits of the ships."

Thing is, once you have something that can physically affect the real world (Morse code with radio set, for example), and notable military applications (two captains talking with each other from anywhere on their ships, as long as their respective shipgirls assists), it's real to the military. The exact how's and why's is something for the eggheads to worry about. The important part is that it works. Then comes the 'how do we avoid civilian backlash from this' questions.
 
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So, 3/4 people know of the existence of ship girls now? Here is a current list:

Rear Admiral James Thompson, Commander of USS Saratoga (CV-2), United States Navy
Vice/Rear Admiral William "Bull" Halsey, Commander of USS Enterprise (CV-6), United States Navy
Chief Engineer Joe Jackson, Excecutive Officer of USS Utah (BB-31), United States Navy

On Taranto:

So, Eagle didn't have her Avgas problem and Glorious survived Norway? That is a major butterfly for the RN.
 
I wonder how hard Utah (well everyone) going to be banging her head against her armor when it hits her of how dumb it was to try only one guy. Instead of well the entire crew of a couple hunderd.
 
I wonder how hard Utah (well everyone) going to be banging her head against her armor when it hits her of how dumb it was to try only one guy. Instead of well the entire crew of a couple hunderd.

Considering the requirements on how the spirits can be seen and interact with the cast.

Let's just say that the whole crew of a ship must care for her as if she is family.

If not, well... It's like the ship became haunted for the crew and will not do any good for the spirit to gain any close bonds then her crew.
 
She had been doing that a lot, lately. Ever since Halsey was able to see her, every time that Thompson came to Big E, the carrier was acting more and more like a proper sailor. It was an interesting transformation to watch, actually. Hell, he could still remember what she was like the first time he was here. All timid and shy, but eager to please. Now she was acting...well. Still timid as all hell, but at least a bit more like a sailor.
Heh, Little E's acting like a daughter trying to imitate/impress her father. It's quite heartwarming. Better to enjoy these moments while they last imo, because soon enough shit will get real.

I daresay I understand more about them than anyone in our Navy."

It took everything Thompson had to not counter that point. He knew more about the Japanese than even Richardson
Had he less self-control, Thompson would have to be answering some rather pointed and uncomfortable questions about how from Adm. Richardson I suspect.

Of course, all it did was make Utah gasp in shock and...well...happiness. Because his finger pushed against her leg, the feeling unlike anything she had ever experienced before. Utah had walkedthrough her crew, sometimes. That was like ice water down her spine. Jackson's poke, on the other hand, was warmth. Warmth unlike anything she had felt. Was this why Arizona was so happy to hug Admiral Thompson?
This pleases me. Utah finally found someone who can see and hear her. It being the chief engineer/XO makes sense to me. It is good this happened, because I think she was about to just give up.

Nice update.
 
So at this point, who is in charge of what? Is Halsey TF 16 commander or what, or does it not even exist yet without USS Hornet? Is Richardson CINCPAC?
Hmm, what about the other current and future carrier commanders? Marc Mitscher seemed to be a big fan of Hornet when she existed.
And Glorious survived. Shouldn't have been to difficult, her loss was utterly boneheaded the first time around.
 
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