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Changing Destiny (Kancolle)

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Guardian54 said:
though canonically Ryuujou is proud to be flat, not the A-cup-Angst of fanon) with only minor diversions.
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That's because A-cup angst (done properly) is funny. For example, the scene in BelaBatt where Ryuujou and Tenryuu discuss the chests of the USN DDs...

And the fact that RJ, who displaces more than all the taffies combined is board game flat.

It's funny, and she rapidly becomes a more complex character, especially during Shinano's arc. Which is funny, because Shinano has the exact opposite problem. (She hates her boobs because they're a reminder of her origins as a BB, and how hurried her... honestly, awful conversion was).
 
Strictly speaking the only canon is the KC game and the kanmusu voice lines.

Most people take the KC anime as base for canon, but, for example, there is an abyssal [not ashamed] difference between Anime!Kongo with her zany antics, and the voice lines KC!kongo uses in the game; the "dess" schtick so notably attached to her in the anime is non existant in the game, or the fact that her "grope line" (usually the Secretary line 3) is actually a rebuttal stating something along the lines that "it's not the time or place". Anime!Kongo would go absolutely bonkers if her Teitoku touched her, appropriately or not.

You can check the KanColle Wiki for all the shipgirls' voice lines, and in some cases the wiki provides personality traits about a few of the girls, like Jintsuu being extremely shy. Problem with that is that you have to go to each individual shipgirl page, so if you intend to use a lot of shipgirls you end up spending quite some time checking voice lines.

Also, obviously, if you intend to use non-Japanese shipgirls, there are a few of them in game and with voice lines, most of them Italian and German. They recently added a few Allied Shipgirls, like Warspite, Iowa or Commandant Teste, but there are very few. So you will have to make up any non-Japanese shipgirl you want to use. As the KC fanfictions have started to pick up on popularity, some fanfics are used for a baseline personality for common shipgirls.

In some cases, that personality may clash, even. For example, there is a very similar concept universe, called the Sea Queens, where ships have a personification, but have no control over the ships. There is also a Kancolle fanfic called Belated Battleships (BelaBatt). In that fanfic, New Jersey is portrayed with a similar, but considerably toned down version of SeaQueens!Iowa. Jersey's personality is more detailed, though, because SQ has a very few snippets portraying Iowa, while BelaBatt is quite a long fanfic which has fleshed more Jersey's personality.

Using, for example, the characterizations from BelaBatt, or KanColle:Greatest Generation, allows you to "acquire" a reader base more familiar with the character, but you are also constrained by the defined characterization, and people may complain if you stray too much from the "canon" fanfic characterization, even if it's your own story.
 
Darth Thanatos said:
Strictly speaking the only canon is the KC game and the kanmusu voice lines.

Most people take the KC anime as base for canon, but, for example, there is an abyssal [not ashamed] difference between Anime!Kongo with her zany antics, and the voice lines KC!kongo uses in the game; the "dess" schtick so notably attached to her in the anime is non existant in the game, or the fact that her "grope line" (usually the Secretary line 3) is actually a rebuttal stating something along the lines that "it's not the time or place". Anime!Kongo would go absolutely bonkers if her Teitoku touched her, appropriately or not.

You can check the KanColle Wiki for all the shipgirls' voice lines, and in some cases the wiki provides personality traits about a few of the girls, like Jintsuu being extremely shy. Problem with that is that you have to go to each individual shipgirl page, so if you intend to use a lot of shipgirls you end up spending quite some time checking voice lines.

Also, obviously, if you intend to use non-Japanese shipgirls, there are a few of them in game and with voice lines, most of them Italian and German. They recently added a few Allied Shipgirls, like Warspite, Iowa or Commandant Teste, but there are very few. So you will have to make up any non-Japanese shipgirl you want to use. As the KC fanfictions have started to pick up on popularity, some fanfics are used for a baseline personality for common shipgirls.

In some cases, that personality may clash, even. For example, there is a very similar concept universe, called the Sea Queens, where ships have a personification, but have no control over the ships. There is also a Kancolle fanfic called Belated Battleships (BelaBatt). In that fanfic, New Jersey is portrayed with a similar, but considerably toned down version of SeaQueens!Iowa. Jersey's personality is more detailed, though, because SQ has a very few snippets portraying Iowa, while BelaBatt is quite a long fanfic which has fleshed more Jersey's personality.

Using, for example, the characterizations from BelaBatt, or KanColle:Greatest Generation, allows you to "acquire" a reader base more familiar with the character, but you are also constrained by the defined characterization, and people may complain if you stray too much from the "canon" fanfic characterization, even if it's your own story.
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Shouldn't we be discussing this somewhere else?
 
To be fair, other than Ari (who is based both in design and characterization on Pacific's Ari) all of mine are completely original. I don't really take anything from other stories, I just do...




>.>

<.<

When I say I put a hilarious amount of research into this thing, I do mean it. Shattered Sword and Friedman's US Battleships are just on a third shelf.

All of my characterizations are based on my own research. I don't really cleave towards any particular fanon interpretation of them. Now, canonical characters...that's a different story. Just look at Indy. Here I clearly can't talk about the canonical characters other than- now -Sara.

Who will forever amuse me for being basically my Sara. Both in her character design (with some differences, but overall how I originally designed Sara) and the fact that her character is basically the same, just a bit more genki.
 
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Huh, I used to have some of those books, but I had to get rid of them because they stank so badly from being kept in a basement from the garage sale I bought them at. Damn, and I don't like to buy books again that I used to own.
 
Sir_Braazmiir said:
Shouldn't we be discussing this somewhere else?
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Actually, it was an answer to a previous question about KC fanfic characterization. There is no need to discuss the matter. But you can check the question and try to provide your own answer to it.

Once said that, I admit that part of it is subjective, and, as such, open to different interpretations. I could have answered with a short "go check the KC wiki for characterization", but I felt that doing that would not really answer the question.

I also will admit that due to my disliking the CYOA (Choose Your Own Adventure) and Quest type of stories, I didn't mention the fourth commonly used source for KC characterization: the Kant-o-Celle Quest. I'm not familiar with it, and talking about it doesn't feel like something I should be doing.

But I agree that discussing the meta of KC fic characterization in general is not something that should be argued here. On the other hand, the meta applied to this particular story would be.
 
Why am I seeing Loli with boobs instead of, you know, a coherent picture?

I just don't get fanart at times.
 
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I think...it's the size ratio from the head to the shoulders to the hips.
the overly long stomach and lack of noticeable rib cage.
I can't explain it better then that.

I'm more used to seeing girls in one piece bathing suits (swim team memories go) then bikinis.
 
Always Late said:
How are there not even a hint of her nipples when that bikini barely covers the sides of her breasts, that's what.
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Only H-anime characters are anatomically correct... for certain values of anatomically correct. Possibly "complete" would be a better way to put it.
 
She doesn't look like a loli guys. Younger than most portrayals due to the bigger eyes I guess, but definitely not a loli.

I don't think the artist was going for that angle anyway. A cursory look at their other art shows them drawing the other girls with fairly large eyes.
 
Always Late said:
How are there not even a hint of her nipples when that bikini barely covers the sides of her breasts, that's what.
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Areolas can be soft and fairly small. Also, cramming that much boobage onto a narrow ribcage will turn them outward, which means that it is not inconceivable that, without hardened "tips" (am I unreasonably wary of mods?) they are just barely out of sight and not detectable.

I agree that the cleavage is ridiculous, I'm just noting that in theory it's possible.

The head to body ratios on the other hand make me throw my hands up and wave it off as Anime/Manga Art Style Shenanigans (the distant ancestor of Magical Sparkly Shipgirl Bullshit).
 
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Icywinter said:
She doesn't look like a loli guys. Younger than most portrayals due to the bigger eyes I guess, but definitely not a loli.

I don't think the artist was going for that angle anyway. A cursory look at their other art shows them drawing the other girls with fairly large eyes.
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Maybe that's it. Probably the head to body ratio. Also, the hips don't seem to balance out breasts...
But the hips are wider then the shoulders...

I'm going to crawl back under a rock and complain about how the standing water is going to make work miserable tomorow.
 
Czlyydwr Llrngwl said:
Only H-anime characters are anatomically correct... for certain values of anatomically correct. Possibly "complete" would be a better way to put it.
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Certain values?

I drop any H-anime where the characters' boobs are as big as or bigger than their heads.

Back to the [somewhat relevant] pic in question, there is a problem with how the bikini in her right boob (left in the pic) was drawn. Not just for the lack of aureola, which should be more or less hinted, at least, but also due to the sheer uncomfortable position the top of the bikini is. Ask any big breasted female you know that won't bash your head in for being a pervert, and they would tell you that the bikini would be unbalanced and quite uncomfortable to walk around.

I conclude that the pic was drawn by a talented artist, but either a small breasted female or a guy.

As for age, she's a teenager, but with the looks of a loli. Early bloomer 12-13, or more or less normal 14-15.

In any case, she's jailbait. Look (or drool), but don't touch.
 
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