Dirtnap
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I think most planes had radio, what they didn't have was radar. I think one of the few radar equipped carrier planes we had were a variant of the hellcat, avenger and corsair. Big planes that had the space for it.
Changing Destiny (Kancolle)
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Burning Baron
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You need to relearn your physics. US rockets were faster. Force=Mass*Acceleration.
Japan attacked because, among other reasons, the US halted oil imports. Yes. War broke out because of resources. China was small potatos to FDR. He was worried about the Phillipines. The Germans, at least, the High Command, didn't want to fight, because they knew they were going to have a terrible time of it. They are, at this point in story, struggling to defeat England from the air. Russia has bogged down, with an entire Army encircled on a city on the Volga, surrounded by six Soviet Armies. And then the Japanese will attack the US before their War Declaration even arrives. Then, the Bavarian Corporal will follow his Eastern Ally, because he thinks his country is hard enough. Then, on top of all this, Hitler makes Mussolini join in too, because Warm Bodies. So much has to go right for history to follow its original path, and that's without Richardson and the German spreading Butterflies.
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They were HEAT rounds. Velocity means exactly zip for penetration with a HEAT round.
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well... not necessarily true. In this case, I'm gonna use F= p/t with p, momentum, equaling mass times velocity, since we are talking about rocket velocity and velocity and acceleration are not the same thing.
A 3 pound rocket that hits a wall going at 100 FPS will hit the wall with the same amount of force as a 1 pound rocket going 300 Fps, assuming that they both decelerate from V0 to 0 in the same amount of time.
That being said, I don't think Force is the value we are looking for here, but rather kinetic energy, Ke= .5*m*V2. In this case the lighter, faster rocket used above will have 3 times more KE than the first rocket. It's why we fling small pieces of metal really really fast at each other instead of slow big ones, and is why rail guns are so tempting as future weapons.
Ke1= .5*M1*V12 Ke2= .5*(1/3)M1*(3V)2 =.5*(1/3)M1*9V12=3*.5*M1*V12=3ke1
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Shooting down your speed thing is already done. Bigger rocket engine = more thrust. Bigger engine + longer firing time = more kinetic energy to help balance out the much bigger mass somewhat.
You need to relearn your history if you think February 1941 has any action on the Eastern Front.
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Let's try to keep the snipping to a minimum, okay?
I've got about a third of the chapter done and it hopefully shouldn't take much longer to get it done.
Burning Baron
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I don't need speed explained to me. I am the person whose grandfather sent a common rock through an MBT by mistake.
I will admit, I forgot when Germany invaded the USSR. There's a lot of bullshit floating between my hair and my nose.
I will admit, I forgot when Germany invaded the USSR. There's a lot of bullshit floating between my hair and my nose.
Moving on.
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Sky... did you edit that or did someone draw it for you?
Let's try to keep the snipping to a minimum, okay?
I've got about a third of the chapter done and it hopefully shouldn't take much longer to get it done.
Also, I propose we change the topic to something Stack-related. That should be less divisive.
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Winter edited the original image.
Burning Baron
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Still waiting for Richardson to meet Jon Pertwee. He should still be aboard Hood, in theory. You know, one time traveler to another.
H.M.S. Hood Association-Battle Cruiser Hood: Crew Information - H.M.S. Hood Crew List - Jon Devon Roland Pertwee
H.M.S. Hood Association-Battle Cruiser Hood: Crew Information - H.M.S. Hood Crew List - Jon Devon Roland Pertwee
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Wouldn't the prefix change with the times though? So even though she was commissioned pre-2008 she'd still adapt the JS prefix when it came into use.
I just love that picture. So handy!
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My point is that given that Zipang was created prior to 2008, and prior to the Ministry of Defense upgrade, the author would logically have used the JDS prefix for Mirai, given that at the time the work was produced, the only known prefix for JMSDF ships was JDS, in and out of universe.
As far as Wikipedia is to be believed, ships commissioned prior to 2008 continue to use the prefix JDS, while ships commissioned after 2008 use the prefix JS. Thus the Hyuga-class helo carriers are JDS Hyuga and JDS Ise, while the Izumo-class helo carriers are JS Izumo and JS Kaga.
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That just makes things incredibly confusing but apparently they like it that way.
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Verified Warmind. Probably on fire.
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Also, have a modernized modern Fusou chan.
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Mega1987
A TTK somewhere at Kancolle's Iwagawa Airfield
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I see Gundam components..... as a rigging......Also, have a modernized modern Fusou chan.
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I thought Fusou should get a HELMET (no claims about other parts) like this picture in an Nth hypothetical remodel. Hypothetically a battleship of similar configuration under Nod control between 2030 and 2050 the forward pagoda would have been in Nod aesthetics... and had the amidships turrets replaced by missile silos, but that's another matter.
I think the Ship-Girl War should be post-Reaper War (yeah, Mass Effect, I know) due to the nanite baths, construction and dismantling mechanics. Scrapping ship-girls? That's like watching people get melted on the Collector Base in ME2 in my head-canon. Building them is basically the reverse process, but calling on a spirit of an old ship to imprint on them. The Loyalty Program forbids outright disobedience (see spoiler below), so you can guess how many admirals take advantage of this to have their own forced harems.
I think Abyssals came from studying Reaper tech too much (the colouring's more or less right in black and red, other than the white parts), and that the Abyssals are an escaped group of badly abused experiments-slash-slaves ("Bah, it was nothing, across all the editions of my group of clones, we only had to actively reconstruct our primary sex characteristics five times. Not like the scientists could actually hurt us most of the time, even though we had to pretend really well so they'd not try harder for their egos. Now, where's the working J7W I was promised for this interview?" -Brought to you by an Anonymous Abyssal near you-) who were originally being used as boogeymen by the Galactic Defence Initiative to scare their citizens on Earth into obedience after the Reaper War.
There are a couple holes in this idea (e.g. 2190s summoning 1906-1950 ships only), but that would require too much timeline exposition to explain.
Back on topic, Sky, what if the Abyssals are mostly from resentments and lingering hatred on LAND gone out to wander the sea (hence how malformed the ship-bodies of most Abyssals look)? Most Japanese atrocities by far were on land, and the China campaign alone should have been enough to pretty much riddle the Chinese coast with Princesses (who also hate the Communists for basically sitting on their asses and doing nothing until the Japanese were already buckling, so would get on VERY BADLY with the PRC) who actually don't target civilian centers (because there is no way a Battle of Shanghai or Nanjing Massacre reincarnation would kill a mass of civilians on purpose). Since I doubt Thompson can avoid Downfall if the US does too well in the Pacific, long before the nukes are ready, could the mass of sheer rage that had built up over the past eight years in Asia in general, coupled with a desperate Japanese religious ritual, represent the origin of the Abyssal fleet?
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... that is not on topic. That's, at best, one more thing Thompson has no control over. That's something for the Fanfic ideas and Recs thread. And given the three massive paragraphs above this line, you sound like you're trying to find an excuse to push your fic idea on someone. (BTW, Kancolle/ME was already done, and better than that.)
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Okay, I need to update my manual for the "Art of Interwebz", because
a) I didn't write a 500-plus-word essay, that's not "LONG POST"
b) How are Downfall and the origins of the Abyssals not things Thompson should be dreading?
c) I'm testing the idea that a pagoda mast might be represented in C&C style by a Confessor helmet. Don't tell me you can't look at the Fusou class and not see that a modern counterpart would look like that. Hell, British destroyers (IIRC, or maybe frigates) today ALREADY look like that helmet in their mast shape, but painted white instead of black and red.
Really, how is the idea of Fusou in a Confessor helmet any worse than that Danbooru image of Hiei dressed as Artorias the Abysswalker?
Here's to hoping Thompson sees the Japanese girls as... uh... okay, those clothes are... wow, they changed a lot since their WWII service. (Yamato: TENNOU HEIKA BANZAI!) Ahem, well then, I guess a few decades to cool their heels and clear their heads from IJN propaganda really helped.
*sees Shimakaze in a nun's outfit*
...Okay, so fashion sense must have been affected
What did we DO to Japan? (Polandball reference)
I've (unfortunately) only seen KC/ME done as ME events with ship-girls, not "humanity's worst enemy was, and now is again, its own ruling class". Your opinions of "better" are, for lack of better terms, yours. A little touchy too, but that's justified given I trawled the thread too hard earlier.
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Always Late
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Long Post?
Please do not strawman other people Guardian54, it is very rude.
One is something Thompson has a modicum of influence over.
The other is you pushing headcanon in a fic that's not yours.
Which has nothing to do with Changing Destiny.
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Discussing history--something which has been done N times through these 156 pages--is in a sense pushing a headcanon on a fic that's not ours.
Being overly insistent about it on the other hand, well, that's another matter.
Making fun of the misfortune pagoda sisters isn't a fun part of basically every KanColle fanfic?
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Only one of them's shown up in BelaBatt, and even then only in an Omake...Making fun of the misfortune pagoda sisters isn't a fun part of basically every KanColle fanfic?
Burning Baron
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In those 116 pages you skipped, we discussed what we think will and won't be happening, and then gave reasons as to why that would be. For example, we discussed the Battle of Taranto, and how butterflied away it had gotten.
That being said, we obey WoG. And, if someone's thought has a good enough reason, then we drop the matter until later story confirms or denies.
ADDENDUM:We also don't try to force things that aren't tangetially related in any way, like our Protag-kun developing something that he would have no knowledge about in the first place, and already exists.
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Um, I didn't skip those 116 pages. I just didn't feel a need to talk until about Page 116 or so when I saw the guy who really got on everyone's nerves in the Ancient Egypt fic thread with KATANA HEIKA BANZAI (though we all conceded it was the best Japan could do with its crappy iron ore) doing it again with EDIT: REDACTED. THIS IS NOT AN INVITATION TO START ON THAT TOPIC AGAIN
I kind of presumed that officers studied military history to some degree roughly matching that of an enthusiast, which of course was my error.
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