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Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)

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SaltyWaffles said:
Okay, this is disturbingly plausible and also fucking hilarious.

I mean, just imagine the reactions of Anna's flightmates upon learning that Anna survived for years without food by literally eating Antagonists for breakfast.

"Wow, Anna. I hadn't realized you started eating things in alphabetical order that early on. But I suppose it makes sense; 'Antagonist' starts with 'A', so..."


Er, Sekhmet's exotic weaponry was geared towards long-range indirect fire/fire support, so it wouldn't have mattered if Sekhmet did have ammo for his exotic weapon.

And Sekhmet absolutely qualifies as a C-class. Shit, you think it'd be responsible for killing so many veteran valks if it were just D-class?

That's not to say that Anna can just go and take on C-class Type-Zeroes all on her own; even on a good day, it'd be dangerous as hell. But in fairness to Anna, that was the first time she'd ever encountered a Type Zero, let alone heard anything about them whatsoever. She'd do a lot better now that she knows what to expect (and has actual experience at dueling Type-Zeroes). Regardless, given how Wave Force attacks are (currently) risky ultimate attacks that leave you vulnerable if you don't effectively kill the Type Zero with them, Anna should always be backed up by a team whenever engaging a Type-Zero with the intention of doing anything more than holding it off for a while (unless it's Class-E, in which case she can eat it for breakfast).
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Your argument relies on the average Type Zero's exotic weaponry not being usable in Valk-on-Zero combat. I believe, though obviously I cannot be certain, that the average Zero's exotics are useful in a Valk fight. If so, the average D-class would likely be closer to the potency of Sekhmet-at-the-breach than sekhmet-at-the-breach would be to the average C-class, given that he had not merely ineffective exotics but none whatsoever.

My argument IS reliant on the exotic superweapons of type Zeros being a greater power factor than their conventional armaments... But, well, exotic superweapons.
 
Gore17 said:
Durga has also been upgraded in some areas, and downgraded in others. Which comes with the additional cost of her being relatively unskilled with the new equipment.

So she's about the same as she was before, honestly. Probably a bit weaker.

Honestly, I want to level up Target Rich Environment, finish up our Impeller skills and master our new equipment. Would only take 521 actions. :p
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Downgraded? Not really. She's just missing most of her particle cannons. Which is a significant loss, yes, but it's more than compensated for by her new weapons systems (hyperkinetic cannon things on her forearms, all the missiles, vastly improved laser systems), ammo/missile fabricators, improved support systems (I think her omni-sensors are new, and there's the medical module), and vastly improved power supply. And given how Type-Zeroes can apparently reflect even the likes of particle beams directly back at their source (albeit briefly) at close range, having far more versatile dakka is very useful.

Yes, several of her more useful dynamos/systems are still undergoing repair, but that's not at all a permanent loss (and will be recovered within 2-3 months or less, IIRC). And her arm is almost fully healed.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
Downgraded? Not really. She's just missing most of her particle cannons. Which is a significant loss, yes, but it's more than compensated for by her new weapons systems (hyperkinetic cannon things on her forearms, all the missiles, vastly improved laser systems), ammo/missile fabricators, improved support systems (I think her omni-sensors are new, and there's the medical module), and vastly improved power supply. And given how Type-Zeroes can apparently reflect even the likes of particle beams directly back at their source (albeit briefly) at close range, having far more versatile dakka is very useful.

Yes, several of her more useful dynamos/systems are still undergoing repair, but that's not at all a permanent loss (and will be recovered within 2-3 months or less, IIRC). And her arm is almost fully healed.
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Improved lasers? Wat?
 
SaltyWaffles said:
Downgraded? Not really. She's just missing most of her particle cannons. Which is a significant loss, yes, but it's more than compensated for by her new weapons systems (hyperkinetic cannon things on her forearms, all the missiles, vastly improved laser systems), ammo/missile fabricators, improved support systems (I think her omni-sensors are new, and there's the medical module), and vastly improved power supply.
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Omni-sensors are old. And yes, while the upgrades are arguably better then what was lost, the real issue is her comparative skill with them. She's got 50's in them, compared to her 200's with her HPP's.
SaltyWaffles said:
And given how Type-Zeroes can apparently reflect even the likes of particle beams directly back at their source (albeit briefly) at close range, having far more versatile dakka is very useful.
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That was lasers, IIRC. Not the HPP's.
 
Gore17 said:
That was lasers, IIRC. Not the HPP's.
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Given that that was how she lost all but five of her HPPs, I'm inclined to think that it reflected the HPPs, too.

Anyway, what you said was that Durga has been arguably downgraded, but that's not true; it's Anna's skill and familiarity with the new systems that's lesser in comparison to what she had.

Kaizuki said:
Improved lasers? Wat?
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I think she just has a lot MORE lasers than she used to, plus a power generator to easily support them (whereas before, she had to carefully budget all of her energy usage).
 
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SaltyWaffles said:
Given that that was how she lost all but five of her HPPs, I'm inclined to think that it reflected the HPPs, too.

Anyway, what you said was that Durga has been arguably downgraded, but that's not true; it's Anna's skill and familiarity with the new systems that's lesser in comparison to what she had.


I think she just has a lot MORE lasers than she used to, plus a power generator to easily support them (whereas before, she had to carefully budget all of her energy usage).
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No.

Lost HPPs to Sekhmet shooting through the holes in the impeller made to let our weapons fire out.

Reflective plating is lasers not HPPs. Actually plating in general is garbage vs HPPs which explicitly can penetrate solids.
 
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SaltyWaffles said:
Anyway, what you said was that Durga has been arguably downgraded, but that's not true; it's Anna's skill and familiarity with the new systems that's lesser in comparison to what she had.
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Our HPP's didn't need ammo like the Hypervelocity Cannons and missile launchers, did not suffer from reflection like lasers, were good at all ranges and had a variety of configurations and ammo. And our Impeller Field is weaker due to the new equipment as well.

Of course, we no longer suffer energy issues thanks to our new reactor and Higgs Engine, the sensors have been upgraded and we have new thrusters. And the lasers and missiles can do a few things that the HPP's couldn't.

As Avalanche once said, we traded over Burst Damage for DPS.
 
Gore17 said:
Our HPP's didn't need ammo like the Hypervelocity Cannons and missile launchers, did not suffer from reflection like lasers, were good at all ranges and had a variety of configurations and ammo. And our Impeller Field is weaker due to the new equipment as well.

Of course, we no longer suffer energy issues thanks to our new reactor and Higgs Engine, the sensors have been upgraded and we have new thrusters. And the lasers and missiles can do a few things that the HPP's couldn't.

As Avalanche once said, we traded over Burst Damage for DPS.
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If by trade you mean "lost and then got something else." If we hadn't lost any of our HPPs, we'd be able to permafire ten of them right now. We'd be literally twice as much firepower. It would be glorious.

I want our HPPs back dammit. I'm EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED, okay?
 
Alphaleph said:
the lasers are old equipment tho.
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I can't find anything saying that, and have something that actively contradicts that:
Avalanche said:
You consider the next weapons on your list but before you can test the missiles or lasers, the simulation space goes grey. Everything freezing in place except you.
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Avalanche said:
You consider the next weapons on your list but before you can test the missiles or lasers, the simulation space goes grey. Everything freezing in place except you.
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Avalanche said:
No. Your Impeller was measurably stronger with Heavy Particle Projectors as opposed to the laser, missiles and cannons you currently have in their place.
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And Anna has the same amount of skill with the lasers and with the missiles and HVC, which is her base level of skill.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
Okay, this is disturbingly plausible and also fucking hilarious.

I mean, just imagine the reactions of Anna's flightmates upon learning that Anna survived for years without food by literally eating Antagonists for breakfast.

"Wow, Anna. I hadn't realized you started eating things in alphabetical order that early on. But I suppose it makes sense; 'Antagonist' starts with 'A', so..."
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But first she ate an Anna.
 
All the talk about ramming enemy antagonists makes me imagine anna being the pinball from hell in battle, where she ricochets the antagonists are gone, devoured.
It's a surprisingly refreshing image.
 
I keep having the thought that on the Antagonist side, Anna is viewed with the same kind of fear as the humans view Type-zeros. "Devourer." would probably be her label.
I wonder if the Antagonists did deploy a class-E to Anna's territory prior to Sekhmet, and she curb-stomped it and ate it without ceremony. And meanwhile the UN intelligence is wondering where the missing type-zero is.
 
ltmauve said:
I keep having the thought that on the Antagonist side, Anna is viewed with the same kind of fear as the humans view Type-zeros. "Devourer." would probably be her label.
I wonder if the Antagonists did deploy a class-E to Anna's territory prior to Sekhmet, and she curb-stomped it and ate it without ceremony. And meanwhile the UN intelligence is wondering where the missing type-zero is.
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I was thinking something like "The Devil Queen of Vahalla" myself.
 
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