Dear god that would be fucking awful.
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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition
- Thread starter Blackstar
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there a reason there a lot less rail options and a lot more road ones.
at least there a lot less shock build things going on then at the start.
at least there a lot less shock build things going on then at the start.
Yes they are absolutely doing better than in IRL and in pretty much every way.
The USSR IRL was a corrupt mess, not saying there isn't corruption here, that was slowly bankrupting itself trying to compete with the US while also commiting a number of human rights violations. In this quest the USSR and its allies are an actual legitimate rival to the US and the West.
Way better. We surpassed the US in terms of PPP. I believe our population is 400M which means our PPP per capita would have to at least be on par with OTL Italy and the UK. Eastern Europe isn't being left behind by the west in TTL. We essentially did a Japan: starting out underdeveloped but catching up fast to the west.
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Massively superior to anything the real USSR ever managed. The early sins of Stalin were somewhat blunted and we kept the Nazis from penetrating nearly so far into Soviet territory, avoiding a large portion of the extreme economic, demographic, and societal damage that echoed down and caused such dramatic effects OTL. Our diplomatic reputation exceeded that of OTL from the beginning, and hardline conflict with the US was delayed by decades, in the meantime having us pull a China-US type relationship.
Our economic power is roughly more than twice that of OTL, the Soviet block actually has some life to it outside the USSR itself including Germany closely and both India and China loosely, and our on-paper purchasing power has exceeded that of the US by 1975.
There's a post from a little while ago where Blackstar outlined a possible path where we could runaway with global institutions and win the Cold War before 1990.
Our economic power is roughly more than twice that of OTL, the Soviet block actually has some life to it outside the USSR itself including Germany closely and both India and China loosely, and our on-paper purchasing power has exceeded that of the US by 1975.
There's a post from a little while ago where Blackstar outlined a possible path where we could runaway with global institutions and win the Cold War before 1990.
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It seems like our ministers are still underperforming in rural road building, even if it seems like they are really good at showing their actual expertise.
I wonder for how much something like this would need to continue to be acknowledged in turn results.
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It seems like our ministers are still underperforming in rural road building, even if it seems like they are really good at showing their actual expertise.
I wonder for how much something like this would need to continue to be acknowledged in turn results.
What areas is the US still ahead in? I know they are a bit more technologically advanced at the moment but what else.
Mostly just the financial sector. Hence why we surpassed the US in terms of PPP but not GDP.
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Most of them besides GDP and population. We might extract and refine more oil than them though. Our unmanned space program is also better, as is our nuclear energy industry (though honestly the US is just terrible at that, France is what we should use as a point of comparison, not them)
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- The great frozen north
I am mildly amused by how often we get this question, but that IS a reminder that as much as it is a fun game, the information we get in updates is mostly not the sort of details and hard numbers that is useful for a passive history nerd to have an idea of how well our USSR actually is doing overall.
And with our nat 100 on computerizing banking, we're catching up quick to the parts that actually matter for bringing prosperity to the people.
Also rural roads, but we might pass them soon- IIRC Blackstar said that stage 3 of local roads represents a level of road network that not even the USA has fully reached OTL.
Also @Blackstar I asked earlier but perhaps it was lost in the plan-making shuffle: How come the description of our deputy Zemlyannikova in the infopost just calls her a civil engineer, while in the update where the vote for deputies happened she was described as also having a comprehensive economics education.
We are still behind in terms of GDP. Pretty sure we have a better manufacturing sector hence our high PPP. Believe we are dominating global automotive market alongside Japan iirc. Which makes sense because even OTL USSR wasn't all that bad with them making the first mass produced unibody car (Lada Niva).
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PPP is the GDP that matters, nominal is not very good as a benchmark, also, pretty sure at this point we are ahead on nomimal too, since we surpassed them on the former a few years ago and have had better growth.
plotvitalnpc
Once more walking the path of the catgirl.
We're rich enough that this turn we expanded our nuclear reactor megafactory to be able to complete the machinery for 16 1gwe nuclear powerplants every year purely because of a vibe.
The OTL USSR managed to get it to output like, one a year.
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Then that means our GDP per capita is on par with OTL Italy and UK now as well (who had a GDP per capita half of the US at the time).
This basically means European SSRs have living standards on par with Western Europe except we have public housing meaning no homeless people on the streets.
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I feel like a better USSR would also be pushing the US to keep advancing faster as well. After all the NA rolls are for the government mostly from what I can tell not private companies and innovation.
That and there manned space program is apparently better than ours, still waiting on the American space station.
That and there manned space program is apparently better than ours, still waiting on the American space station.
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And our economy is so big that said 16 gigawatts of nuclear power per year only covers one-half of the annual growth in power demand.
plotvitalnpc
Once more walking the path of the catgirl.
But what of the real, ultimate standard for public wellness and economic robustness, gross national happiness? /s
I know you said /s but our living standards (at least in European SSRs) is likely higher than that of Western Europe despite only having a gdp per capita similar to Italy and the UK due to public housing and overall a better social safety net. At least compared to OTL Western Europe anyways.
The thing is, the US isn't doing beyond horribly. They've suffered some bad hits where it counted to get in their current situation, but initially they were doing great postwar. Our period of cooperation helped both blocs, even if it would have been "smarter" for the US to try and shut us out immediately because they had more room to fall.
But remember, long ago Blackstar talked about how the real grimdark path for the US was to become an indefinitely segregationist Nazi-apologist hermit bloc.
Yeah glad we have hopefully dodged that route considering the US has free health care and civil rights.
plotvitalnpc
Once more walking the path of the catgirl.
Ah but gross national happiness isn't just a happiness survey. It's a complicated 72 factor index that I'm not sure anybody outside of the Bhutanese department of statistics knows how to actually calculate.
Could i have a link to both of these please ?
Grimdark postwar timeline that never was.
Early Cold War victory path.
Looking back at the grimdark prophecy, it almost did come to pass. France went fairly psycho and the UK did return to naked imperialism for a period, it was only the US that steered away from the dark timeline.
Early Cold War victory path.
Looking back at the grimdark prophecy, it almost did come to pass. France went fairly psycho and the UK did return to naked imperialism for a period, it was only the US that steered away from the dark timeline.
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