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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Deliste said:
Pretty sure he was advised not to roll over for the Sparrow for exactly the reasons that came to pass.
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Yes, because the Sparrow was better at manipulating him than Cersei.
While Margaery was out of the game for a while.

Tommen was, as far as I can tell, a relativly good person, who wanted to do good.
The Sparrow sold him exactly that, with him doing a good thing, the Seven's work.
While Cersei was a very obvious evil bitch at that point. Not even hiding it as much as the years before.

The choice who to listen to is pretty clear when one person very obviously wants to control you for her own power while the others tells you how uch you can help the kingdom and that the gods supports your work.
 
Fehu said:
So anyone else thinks Glyras ritual hill might be a good place for a future fey court? :D

Alternatively we can have Lya teach students there while she learns her PrC PosPlane. :whistle:
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We should do something with the hill.

DragonParadox said:
Over the last two days the grassy hill had been transformed under under Lya's careful ministrations. Three fluted pillars of flawless white marble embedded with rare sun quarts from Sothoyos had been erected around the grassy crown of the hill and then at Vee's command wrapped in a profusion delicate vines heavy with silvery. The space between them had not been changed at all but by some subtle magic as the light of day refracted off the honey-colored quarts the warm light coaxed the native wildflowers to explode in a riotous carpet of color.

Birds of all kinds flocked driven by some secret knowing of all things that ride the wind and over the last day Glyra had fed them with her own hands uncomplaining, choosing for each one from a variety of rare and potent seeds.
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Artemis1992 said:
Yes, because the Sparrow was better at manipulating him than Cersei.
While Margaery was out of the game for a while.

Tommen was, as far as I can tell, a relativly good person, who wanted to do good.
The Sparrow sold him exactly that, with him doing a good thing, the Seven's work.
While Cersei was a very obvious evil bitch at that point. Not even hiding it as much as the years before.

The choice who to listen to is pretty clear when one person very obviously wants to control you for her own power while the others tells you how uch you can help the kingdom and that the gods supports your work.
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Artemis1992 said:
A doormat can be a decent king, if someone whispers sensible things in his ears.
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I guess I just figure "remember the basic history we've been drilling into your head since you could walk" is fairly sensible in the face of the Sparrow and his obvious threat.

I'm not even saying the Sparrow wasn't as good as you say, he should have never got the chance to talk though.

Cersei was crazy and retarded, Joffrey inherited the crazy, Tommen got the dumb brain.
 
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LonelyWolf999 said:
I'm not certain we should be spending time, which is at a premium, actively trying to win over westerosi lords. The ones that would will flip anyway once we take King's Landing. I was advocating setting up a spy network, finally taking out or subverting Varys, and coordinating with loyalist Lords to both ensure the invasion goes smoothly and to undercut our enemies.
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Why not both? Taking out Varys shoulnd't take more than a few days (we really need to do this before the invasion, in fact the sooner the better.
 
bigbow said:
Why not both? Taking out Varys shoulnd't take more than a few days (we really need to do this before the invasion, in fact the sooner the better.
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We have IC justification too, not just the fact that we know he's half the Blackfyre conspiracy. Taking out the crown's spy network cripples their only current meaningful way of fucking with us. Not to mention the fact that we know he worked for our father, so there's at least something fishy going on here.

I was just opposing actively trying to diplomance neutral or hostile lords. Once we obviously depose Robert the people that would support us will do so then, since we'll have so obviously won. It'll also require Viserys personal attention and time, which we'll have to fight over tooth and bone. I'm content with just communication with our loyalists.
 
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Part MMCCXCVI: Threefold Treachery
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    • Threefold Treachery​

    Tenth Day of the Fifth Month 293 AC

    "Today I speak only for my own realm, counting millions of souls in its own right, though rest assured that I have certain acquaintances in the spheres beyond this one who would be quite interested to support whatever agreement we might strike. Though I will not lie to you by proclaiming ties that are yet to be bound," you reply silently, passing the thought as swiftly as you may.

    "What manner of millions?" The question is sharp as a sword's edge. "Not all beings who might be counted subjects were gifted evenly by the Powers."

    "This is neither the place nor the hour to answer such questions,"     you reply. "Know that the 'Great Sultan's' days are numbered and there will be great opportunities for those who aid in his downfall."

    "Others have said those words both boldly and in secret, mountains have been worn smooth, seas have been drunk dry, and still Him of the line of Ibis yet sits upon the Brazen Throne which even the Lords of Hell pay heed to."     The answer is at once imperious and tinged with bitterness such as words cannot contain.

    "Though a thousand daggers fail to find their mark and the thousand-and-first does, he would perish just the same for it," you scoff. "Why does he so chase godhood if not from fear of death and ruin? No matter the glories piled at their feet none stands more accursed than the tyrant."

    Silence falls within and without, a fragile furtive thing that both of you know must end in decisive action, either to call on the guards to clear you from the chamber, a daunting prospect to be sure, or the far more momentous effort of casting off the yoke of the Brazen Throne. All hangs upon the queen's decision.

    You find yourself gripped by an unexpected surge of sympathy for her plight, beyond the trappings of otherworldly magic and uncanny form, into the soul of what it means to rule.

    "Let it be so," the thought is as steel. "Bring me the head of Fajir Az Issul, prove your strength and I will set the flames of rebellion... of vengeance alight."

    It happens almost too fast for the eye to follow, one of the golden torques surrounding the queen's midsection begins to burn with a hideous black flame, curse-working. Time twists upon itself into a perfect knot as you utter a word of unraveling... the dark working fades to embers.

    The queen rips the damned gold from her scales with surprising strength, lips pulling back to reveal dagger-sharp fangs black as dragonglass. "Fajir dies at my hand!"

    At the declaration the chamber descends into chaos, as three of her own guards suddenly surge towards her, spears lowered to impale her, though Ser Richard and Waymar are swifter, the first bodily hurling one of the attackers against the throne, while the second lops off the head of the flame-kissed spear-tip, leaving the traitor staring dumbly at his new staff.

    The third simply vanishes as Dany brushes a wingtip against him and wills him to lose himself somewhere upon the realm of Earth.

    "Protect the queen!" the captain calls desperately, looking around his own subordinates as though unable or unwilling to believe his own eyes.

    "Leave be!" the queen herself hisses as Waymar and Ser Richard make quick work of their outmatched opponents. "We have to reach my son, to ensure that more assassins will not strike at him!"

    The captain flinches visibly at the words. "I offer my life...."

    "Your death serves me nothing, fool," the monarch replies. "Fajir's death can wait..."

    What do you do?

    [] Offer to protect the prince's life

    [] Offer to help slay the Efreeti legate

    [] Write in

    OOC: Sorry this took so long. I was unexpectedly busy.
     
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    • LonelyWolf999 said:
    We have IC justification too, not just the fact that we know he's half the Blackfyre conspiracy. Taking out the crown's spy network cripples their only current meaningful way of fucking with us. Not to mention the fact that we know he worked for our father, so there's at least something fishy going on here.

    I was just opposing actively trying to diplomance neutral or hostile lords. Once we obviously depose Robert the people that would support us will do so then, since we'll have so obviously won. It'll also require Viserys personal attention and time, which we'll have to fight over tooth and bone. I'm content with just communication with our loyalists.
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    Thing is cutting out Varys' may be bad in some ways. I'm assuming he's a Tiamat pawn through Irrilo contaxts, or deep one due to bad luck (oh! This cow is in a good position, let's use it to keep the other farm anianals docile!)

    If not however, making our enimes feel desperation can put them into the arms of fiends if they grow desperate enough. Basically, any large polity can have available resources = yes if they are willing to throw themselves away to the lower planes.

    Diplomancing netural lords mighty be worth it given the politics of the area, but that shoulld he taaken on a case by case basis. Though I put low weighing on my stance, politics is not my area.

    Edit: bloodwish telepathic bond between all people here and split up?

    Teleportation is just so... Lovely.
     
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    DragonParadox said:
    "Let it be so," the thought is as steel. "Bring me the head of Fajir Az Issul, prove your strength and I will set the flames of rebellion... of vengeance alight."

    It happens almost too fast for the eye to follow, one of the golden torques surrounding the queen's midsection begins to burn with a hideous black flame, curse-working. Time twists upon itself into a perfect knot as you utter a word of unraveling... the dark working fades to embers.

    The queen rips the damned gold from her scales with surprising strength, lips pulling back to reveal dagger-sharp fangs black as dragonglass. "Fajir dies at my hand!"
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    There go the sacrifices.

    @DragonParadox, can we at least keep what we kill?
     
    We should split party to hunt down Legate and protect prince, who would be best for those duties?
     
    I suggest a bind oath to remove the prince to our home where he will be returned when asked for and then planeshift him home. After that we go after the Legate and proceed to fuck him up we just need to bind them so they can't run.

    Unless we have our own army of salamanders behind us splitting the party would be a bad idea considering the number of giant involved.
     
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    TotallyNotEvil said:
    Dany and Waymar go for the prince, Viserys, Ser Richard and Tyene for the legate?
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    Works for me.

    [X] TotallyNotEvil

    lancelot said:
    I suggest a bind oath to remove the prince to our home where he will be returned when asked for and then planeshift him home. After that we go after the Legate and proceed to fuck him up we just need to bind them so they can't run.
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    Not a bad idea, but we need to actually get to the prince first. The main concern is reaching him before any assassins do. I mean, we could always raise him like his brother, but it would reflect poorly on our offer of protection against the Queen's enemies.
     
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    I suggest a bind oath to remove the prince to our home where he will be returned when asked for and then planeshift him home. After that we go after the Legate and proceed to fuck him up we just need to bind them so they can't run.

    Unless we have our own army of salamanders behind us splitting the party would be a bad idea considering the number of giant involved.
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    Well there is an army of salamanders, the trouble is you are not entirely sure how trustworthy they are and neither is the queen much to her dismay.
     
    At cl 16 we can get Viserys + 5 targets
    [X] to the queen and head guard person: "creating mind link between the six of us"
    Bloodwish Telepathic Bond :: d20srd.org between Viserys, Dany, Richard, Tyene, Waymar, the queen and the captain"
    -[X] to together Queen "provided you have some might, my lady, you may well be safer with I and my companions in battle together than if we sperate into groups. Regardless, where is your son, and the nearest unblocked greater teleport location?
    -[X] if Queen comes with, party + Queen and Captain GT to rescue her son, if not leave Richard and Tyene with her and go with Dany and Waymar and the captain (to hasten the reassurance) to collect her kid

    Edit: sons life comes first:
    "Your death serves me nothing, fool," the monarch replies. "Fajir's death can wait..."

    Also, if splitting, I suggest Tyene and Richard with the queen for vision, hardiness, lots of healings, diplomancy, and escape with planeshift and teleport.

    @DragonParadox are salamanders large or medium?
     
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    I have a bad feeling that the Prince is entangled rather more closely with the Efreeti than his mother, the Queen, realizes. She'll likely not survive the attempt to save her son.

    [X] Offer to accompany the Queen as she seeks our her son, and to temporarily link her mind with ours and the rest of the party's using a Blood Wished Telepathic Bond spell.
     
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    So how will we bolster the Salamanders now in their open rebellion?

    I am thinking we could ask Baella to gather PoF flora speciments by the ton. While atleast a day each is shaved off our researchers to make PoFweirwood... Next month!

    If the idea aint to the threads liking, how about a temple of Best Snek erected to ward the pummice isles. Would also allow them to pay in HDs for whatever they need.

    [x] Goldfish
     
    @Goldfish @TotallyNotEvil @thread

    This is the moment where we are all together and everything is falling to chaos. Now is together last moment we can set up coordination. Please, can I convince you to bloodwish Telepathic Bond :: d20srd.org between party members, the queen and her captain before anything else?

    And if not, I feel the need to ask why not, cuz it feels like a very very useful idea regardless of any other plan made, perhaps unless it is one where we all stick together.
     
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