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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Azel said:
@Goldfish, will we make the Mammon cloak before or after the Efreeti?

Especially if not, we probably will need a pyramid of skulls or two to convince them of our offer.
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It's after the Efreeti.

Upon the Sea of Flame is from the 6th to the 10th.

Crafting the Artifact Cloak is from the 11th to the 13th.

Shifting the cloak to be crafted beforehand doesn't work out well, as that messes with Lya's finishing touches on her Dedicated Wright research as well as her Arcanum creation.
 
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Cant we just.... Have Lya pause the Wight project, craft the cloak, then continue it? I mean fits ICly she'd want Viserys well dressed for his debut on the big stage.
 
[X] Goldfish

Schedule is crazy packed right now sadly, just not enough time to swallow this plot hook despite such a nice looking lure.
 
Fehu said:
Cant we just.... Have Lya pause the Wight project, craft the cloak, then continue it? I mean fits ICly she'd want Viserys well dressed for his debut on the big stage.
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We don't want to roll straight from Efreet hunting in the Plane of Fire into the extraplanar Conference.

That's not just cutting things uncomfortably close, it also makes us look hurried and doesn't give much time for our exploits to filter through the Shaitan upper ranks, and then into their Djinni allies.

Timing is important.
 
[X] Goldfish
terrorism against the Efreeti wins IMO
 
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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on Sep 2, 2018 at 11:38 AM, finished with 222549 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] Turn the matter over to the authorities
    -[X] Surreptitiously use magic to confirm that Alvar has not been replaced by a Death Slaad, or is being magically compelled in any manner.
    [X] Banish this mad chaos monger before he can do more harm, and claim your due for his deeds from his treasures.
    -[X] Ask Alvar to use the Wayfinder in order to locate the Slaad in question. If it is not currently on the Plane, or awarded against detection, we will need to make other arrangements, but if it can be located we can seek it out and end this quickly.
    --[X] While Alvar does that, Viserys drinks a potion of Lesser Restoration and asks Embra where she would recommend we secure lodging for ourselves.
    ---[X] After rooms are secured, Viserys used the magic bedroom to recover his spells.
    -[X] Don't forget to equip the new Soulfire Bracers. Lend one of them to Embra.
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[X] Goldfish

I'd be happy to see this thing with the Slaan play out under most circumstances. But I'd like to see it handled properly. It doesn't seem a good idea to wade into things when we'd be rushing every step of the way.
 
Fehu said:
Wait now am not getting it, we dont move Viserys PoF days, only when Lya crafts the cloak?
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DP ruled that forging the new Artifact Cloak would require the combined efforts of Viserys, Lya, and Ser Richard.
DragonParadox said:
Finally remembered to look into the Cloak of Mammon price matter. Seeing as you are making an artifact here's what I consider the price should be:
  1. The Orphne Cloak
  2. The Bracers of Avarice
  3. 20.000 Gold in reagents
In terms of time it would cost 3 days each from:
  1. Lya for her skill at crafting
  2. Viserys for his searing breath weapon to shape the enchanted scales
  3. Ser Richard, as Oathkeeper both struck the final blow and contains the spirit of a mage smith thus gaining a unique understanding into how the metal must be worked
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OK, vote closed.

I'm not really surprised it turned out this way with how busy you guys are, but given previous trends and characterization I had to give the offer.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Sep 2, 2018 at 11:56 AM, finished with 222554 posts and 16 votes.
  • [X] Turn the matter over to the authorities
    -[X] Surreptitiously use magic to confirm that Alvar has not been replaced by a Death Slaad, or is being magically compelled in any manner.
    [X] Banish this mad chaos monger before he can do more harm, and claim your due for his deeds from his treasures.
    -[X] Ask Alvar to use the Wayfinder in order to locate the Slaad in question. If it is not currently on the Plane, or awarded against detection, we will need to make other arrangements, but if it can be located we can seek it out and end this quickly.
    --[X] While Alvar does that, Viserys drinks a potion of Lesser Restoration and asks Embra where she would recommend we secure lodging for ourselves.
    ---[X] After rooms are secured, Viserys used the magic bedroom to recover his spells.
    -[X] Don't forget to equip the new Soulfire Bracers. Lend one of them to Embra.
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TotallyNotEvil said:
Hey @bigbow @Tomcost how cheap or good is Santa Helena considered to be over there? Pretty decent from my limited experience.

@Goldfish Can anything be shuffled so someone else receives Viserys' old belt and we enchant the new one?
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At this point, we can remove something in order to have an enchantment placed on the belt, but not really reshuffle what's already there. It's currently optimized to produce the most stuff possible with the time and crafters we have available.

Considering the cost of enchanting the belt, including the 50% tax for adding additional effects, we would have to drop several smaller projects, or we could drop one larger project, such as the new Wayfinder or the Visor of See Invisibility for one of the Iron Archer Golems.

I would prefer the belt be done sooner rather than later, too.

What do y'all think?
 
Goldfish said:
At this point, we can remove something in order to have an enchantment placed on the belt, but not really reshuffle what's already there. It's currently optimized to produce the most stuff possible with the time and crafters we have available.

Considering the cost of enchanting the belt, including the 50% tax for adding additional effects, we would have to drop several smaller projects, or we could drop one larger project, such as the new Wayfinder or the Visor of See Invisibility for one of the Iron Archer Golems.

I would prefer the belt be done sooner rather than later, too.

What do y'all think?
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Please don't drop the Wayfinder, that's a necessary piece of equipment so we can send multiple parties out at the same time without sacrificing efficiency, and it's already been put off for a few months in a row.
 
But this place is chaotic good, won't the authorities be appalled and confused that we decided to trust them, instead of taking matters into out own hands as is proper?

Damn foreigners.
 
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Canon Omake: Culture Corner: Minotaurs
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    • Culture Corner: Minotaurs​

    Since their rescue by King Viserys, King of the Stepstones, from the city from Mantarys and it's former demonic masters the minotaurs have since settled surprisingly quickly into Deep within little over a year. While their population is small in size compared to rest of the inhabitants of the Deep, though the rise of new calf births might solve that in a generation or so, they have still become a very intermixed part of it. Where once they were nothing but tools meant for killing they have embraced their new found freedom and are slowly developing their own subculture to add further to the diversity of the kingdom's capital.

    While a good deal of the minotaurs live in an area a little outside of the main city one can easily find them if they know where to look.

    Since they stand somewhere between 6 ½ to 7 feet on average, with bulls usually standing three or so inches taller than cows, along with a great deal of muscle mass even for their size it should be no surprise that minotaurs value phyiscal abilities quite highly. Even after being freed from their demonic creators and shown a better path phyiscal ability plays a huge part in minotaur lifestyle and social interactions. The vast majority of adults have taken up jobs that make use of and allow them to show off their strength to others: cargo movers, construction, guards, and of course the legion. Minotaurs are also a common sight at the Circle of Battle as both excitable spectators and enthusiastic participants.

    (While rare to find a minotaur not working or relaxing in a manner that makes use of their inhuman strength just like man they can be drawn to other works, an example being one minotaur that has taken up the path of a healer and cares for all come into his care.)

    In fact the Circle of Battle is popular location for minotaurs since it is a location where they can easily settle disputes between themselves and others. While minotaurs could easily crush most men and a brawl between two or more could lead to a great deal of public damage they respect their king too much to knowingly break the law, however with the aid of the King's sworn sword they quickly found out there was a way to fight it out in a safe environment. Thus it is that the minotaurs self-police themselves quite well with battle between offending parties squaring off in the Circle of Battle and the victor declared in the right, something the loser is usually quite willingly to accept since for minotaurs strength equals righteous. Where some men would complain about the outcome or perhaps even cheat the idea of either of those things are unthinkable to minotaurs and would be a mark of great shame if others do it.

    It is strongly advised that when confronted with a minotaur that challenges you to a duel for a slight given to them to apologize and admit you are wrong since that is usually enough to placate them, assuming you don't trust your fighting ability.

    Bulls also use these contests of physical prowess to show off towards cows in order prove their strength and worthiness as mates in general, though this doesn't mean that the cows are incapable of throwing bulls around it motivated enough. Cows in general tend to be more docile than bulls but don't let that fool you into believing their are meek things and many citizens joke they embody the ferocity of a women's scorn quite accurately when angered.

    Another interesting aspect of minotaur culture that has developed in their time in the Deep is the rather diverse means of which they present themselves. Most bulls walk around shirtless to freely show off their muscular to others but over time have done other things to be seen more noticeable. Warriors braid their hair with teeth or other tokens of fallen enemies, dye their fur black and red to symbolize their allegiance to the kingdom, tattoo their skin with various symbols and words meant to represent strength from other cultures, piercing their noses with rings similar to domesticated bulls, and shaving their fur into certain patterns. Other more noticeable signs of decoration include brands, ritual scarring, and even gliding or craving of their horns.

    Said brands and scars are usually influenced due to the strong respect the minotaurs have towards the Old Gods and their beliefs. In a way the minotaur beliefs of strength fits very nicely with the Old Gods more primal ways of survival of the fittest. Their tenets are also things the minotaurs can strongly agree with, with the hatred of slavery being a strong defining feature they share with a good deal of the population of the Deep. The various Godswood of the Deep can commonly find more than one minotaur visit it over a course of a day for small offerings of blood and interaction with others who rest beneath the branches.

    Another aspect of minotaur culture is that many of them prefer a certain set of weapons above all others. While certainly large and strong enough to easily swing any great weapon with the ease that a man might swing a short sword minotaurs have been known to favor war axes and unique double crossbows. Axes for combining that heavy head with that of a large blade that in their heads could easily slice a man in twain, and the crossbows for their power where most men would struggle the large heavy devices. These weapons are likely to be decorated in some manner with cravings along axe handles and notches places on sides of crossbows to represent kills made with them.

    It is no surprise given their martial nature and the Deep's culture it isn't an odd thing to see minotaurs carry their weapons in public much to worry of visiting foreigners unused to such things.

    While a young people the minotaur of the Deep have come far from their origins and perhaps in time will strong into a thriving race alongside man, fey, and all those with peaceful intent under the banner of the Dragon King!
     
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    • I dislike the idea of mugging time. Sounds consequence.

    Lets go to axis and buy a temporally accerlated demiplane and COMPUTERS*!

    *Assuming computer things are available
     
    Massgamer said:
    Culture Corner: Minotaurs​

    Since their rescue by King Viserys, King of the Stepstones, from the city from Mantarys and it's former demonic masters the minotaurs have since settled surprisingly quickly into Deep within little over a year. While their population is small in size compared to rest of the inhabitants of the Deep, though the rise of new calf births might solve that in a generation or so, they have still become a very intermixed part of it. Where once they were nothing but tools meant for killing they have embraced their new found freedom and are slowly developing their own subculture to add further to the diversity of the kingdom's capital.

    While a good deal of the minotaurs live in an area a little outside of the main city one can easily find them if they know where to look.

    Since they stand somewhere between 6 ½ to 7 feet on average, with bulls usually standing three or so inches taller than cows, along with a great deal of muscle mass even for their size it should be no surprise that minotaurs value phyiscal abilities quite highly. Even after being freed from their demonic creators and shown a better path phyiscal ability plays a huge part in minotaur lifestyle and social interactions. The vast majority of adults have taken up jobs that make use of and allow them to show off their strength to others: cargo movers, construction, guards, and of course the legion. Minotaurs are also a common sight at the Circle of Battle as both excitable spectators and enthusiastic participants.

    (While rare to find a minotaur not working or relaxing in a manner that makes use of their inhuman strength just like man they can be drawn to other works, an example being one minotaur that has taken up the path of a healer and cares for all come into his care.)

    In fact the Circle of Battle is popular location for minotaurs since it is a location where they can easily settle disputes between themselves and others. While minotaurs could easily crush most men and a brawl between two or more could lead to a great deal of public damage they respect their king too much to knowingly break the law, however with the aid of the King's sworn sword they quickly found out there was a way to fight it out in a safe environment. Thus it is that the minotaurs self-police themselves quite well with battle between offending parties squaring off in the Circle of Battle and the victor declared in the right, something the loser is usually quite willingly to accept since for minotaurs strength equals righteous. Where some men would complain about the outcome or perhaps even cheat the idea of either of those things are unthinkable to minotaurs and would be a mark of great shame if others do it.

    It is strongly advised that when confronted with a minotaur that challenges you to a duel for a slight given to them to apologize and admit you are wrong since that is usually enough to placate them, assuming you don't trust your fighting ability.

    Bulls also use these contests of physical prowess to show off towards cows in order prove their strength and worthiness as mates in general, though this doesn't mean that the cows are incapable of throwing bulls around it motivated enough. Cows in general tend to be more docile than bulls but don't let that fool you into believing their are meek things and many citizens joke they embody the ferocity of a women's scorn quite accurately when angered.

    Another interesting aspect of minotaur culture that has developed in their time in the Deep is the rather diverse means of which they present themselves. Most bulls walk around shirtless to freely show off their muscular to others but over time have done other things to be seen more noticeable. Warriors braid their hair with teeth or other tokens of fallen enemies, dye their fur black and red to symbolize their allegiance to the kingdom, tattoo their skin with various symbols and words meant to represent strength from other cultures, piercing their noses with rings similar to domesticated bulls, and shaving their fur into certain patterns. Other more noticeable signs of decoration include brands, ritual scarring, and even gliding or craving of their horns.

    Said brands and scars are usually influenced due to the strong respect the minotaurs have towards the Old Gods and their beliefs. In a way the minotaur beliefs of strength fits very nicely with the Old Gods more primal ways of survival of the fittest. Their tenets are also things the minotaurs can strongly agree with, with the hatred of slavery being a strong defining feature they share with a good deal of the population of the Deep. The various Godswood of the Deep can commonly find more than one minotaur visit it over a course of a day for small offerings of blood and interaction with others who rest beneath the branches.

    Another aspect of minotaur culture is that many of them prefer a certain set of weapons above all others. While certainly large and strong enough to easily swing any great weapon with the ease that a man might swing a short sword minotaurs have been known to favor war axes and unique double crossbows. Axes for combining that heavy head with that of a large blade that in their heads could easily slice a man in twain, and the crossbows for their power where most men would struggle the large heavy devices. These weapons are likely to be decorated in some manner with cravings along axe handles and notches places on sides of crossbows to represent kills made with them.

    It is no surprise given their martial nature and the Deep's culture it isn't an odd thing to see minotaurs carry their weapons in public much to worry of visiting foreigners unused to such things.

    While a young people the minotaur of the Deep have come far from their origins and perhaps in time will strong into a thriving race alongside man, fey, and all those with peaceful intent under the banner of the Dragon King!
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    Neat addition to the thread. Now we need one on the religious practices of the Little Valyrians!

    BTW, Minotaurs are Large-sized, so your height measurements are way off, by several feet at a minimum.
     
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