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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Sounds like we might be able to help by making it clear that Zherys isn't winning, Viserys is. That Zherys will be involved in things going forward is an important consideration, but in the end, we no more intend to let the Volentine imperial province stagnate in its useless old ideas than we do the Vale, for instance.

Edit: Ah, excellent
[X] Azel
 
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Goldfish said:
I don't like that idea too much. It would negatively impact the instructors.

We can create a special Hyperbolic Time Chamber demiplane using Create Greater Demiplane much later on.
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I'm holding you to that. I don't care where it is, I want that Hyperbolic Time Chamber. This is our ticket to Lya learning every last spell and to cheating with our item crafting.
 
[X] Azel

No plotting to assassinate Zherys, I hope, @Azel? Not that I'm completely adverse to such an outcome, but it should be done telepathically, far from potential eavesdroppers and mages likely to use mind reading magics.
 
The way I see it, even if Volantis retains a measure of independence and self-direction than most who could not be lead to reason before banners were cast down and flags were raised, it is astonishingly unlikely that Viserys (or we) would be content not to introduce reforms that bring it more in-line with the rest of the Imperium. To have it stand apart, not only culturally, but legally and economically, would run counter to our ambition. It is supposed to be integrated into a greater whole, not ready to split away at the whim of a single man.
 
Goldfish said:
No plotting to assassinate Zherys, I hope, @Azel? Not that I'm completely adverse to such an outcome, but it should be done telepathically, far from potential eavesdroppers and mages likely to use mind reading magics.
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Azel has been anything but secretive about his desire for Zherys as either second or on fire. He's now second, there's no reason to set him on fire.

[X] Azel
 
Crake said:
The way I see it, even if Volantis retains a measure of independence and self-direction than most who could not be lead to reason before banners were cast down and flags were raised, it is astonishingly unlikely that Viserys (or we) would be content not to introduce reforms that bring it more in-line with the rest of the Imperium. To have it stand apart, not only culturally, but legally and economically, would run counter to our ambition. It is supposed to be integrated into a greater whole, not ready to split away at the whim of a single man.
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About 30 seconds after we manuever Zherys into power, we should slap a copy of the Imperial Legal Codex down onto his lap and say "Welcome to the Imperium. Your homework is to memorize this."
 
Goldfish said:
[X] Azel

No plotting to assassinate Zherys, I hope, @Azel? Not that I'm completely adverse to such an outcome, but it should be done telepathically, far from potential eavesdroppers and mages likely to use mind reading magics.
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We will go into full-paranoia protocols two weeks after the coup to make it less likely for him to notice, then do a few pointed Divinations to see if he will stick to the deal we struck.

If not... well... we loose a hero, but gain a martyr.

I do trust his good sense to not betray us, but as they say: Trust, but verify.

He will do the same with us anyway.
 
Goldfish said:
About 30 seconds after we manuever Zherys into power, we should slap a copy of the Imperial Legal Codex down onto his lap and say "Welcome to the Imperium. Your homework is to memorize this."
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On that note we really need to reinstate the Crimson Code in some form before it becomes a pressing issue. Having a couple dozen riders in our camp helps at first, but it doesn't course correct on its own, because those riders can be distracted, called away, or simply grow apathetic.
 
Goldfish said:
About 30 seconds after we manuever Zherys into power, we should slap a copy of the Imperial Legal Codex down onto his lap and say "Welcome to the Imperium. Your homework is to memorize this."
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That's one of those things that are, as they say, not negotiable.

They will be part of the Imperium, not some self-serving protectorate. That is the deal we struck.
 
Crake said:
On that note we really need to reinstate the Crimson Code in some form before it becomes a pressing issue. Having a couple dozen riders in our camp helps at first, but it doesn't course correct on its own, because those riders can be distracted, called away, or simply grow apathetic.
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Malarys was supposed to give us the lore of his priestly order soonish. We can just ask him afterwards to write down the Crimson Code, and then revise it with him to come up with a version to our liking.
 
Duesal said:
Malarys was supposed to give us the lore of his priestly order soonish. We can just ask him afterwards to write down the Crimson Code, and then revise it with him to come up with a version to our liking.
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For one thing, I would use it as an opportunity to introduce a (less restrictive) set of Geneva Convention-like legislation. Mostly for war crimes stemming from use of dragons in war, but we can quickly ride the momentum from that to introduce further ones (again, less restrictive than exist in reality) for things like bioweapons.

Not like I see any point in limiting ourselves when our true "thrown into total war to the knife" enemies won't either, but there should be a set of clearly defined instances in which use of escalating tactics is deemed acceptable.

It's burning a military camp in a surprise alpha strike on the eve of battle vs. burning a mostly civilian population center housing some soldiers/rebels/malcontents simply because someone thought it more expedient.
 
I think I can envision what will happen to the Old Blood.

First it will be the greedy, overreaching or mad ones. Those who directly resist or start immediatly plotting against us. We see that in Tyrosh already.

Then it will be the incompetent, the useless ones. That will take years, maybe a generation, but they will not stay in wealth and power by name alone.

Then it will be the overly careful, conservative ones. Those that don't give reason to be removed, but will simply fade and leave less of a legacy with each passing year.

In the end only those that have accepted our new world, or the children of those clever enough to pretend to do so will be near the local top.
 
Artemis1992 said:
I think I can envision what will happen to the Old Blood.

First it will be the greedy, overreaching or mad ones. Those who directly resist or start immediatly plotting against us. We see that in Tyrosh already.

Then it will be the incompetent, the useless ones. That will take years, maybe a generation, but they will not stay in wealth and power by name alone.

Then it will be the overly careful, conservative ones. Those that don't give reason to be removed, but will simply fade and leave less of a legacy with each passing year.

In the end only those that have accepted our new world, or the children of those clever enough to pretend to do so will be near the local top.
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I think you are not giving conservatives enough credit, the definition of conservative may shift in time, but they will always exist. Nostalgia as well as the desire to avoid the uncertainties of change are powerful draws especially for those already at or near the tip of the social pyramid.

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@DragonParadox, how are the books that we asked our Companions to write coming along? That was started a few months ago, right?
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What were they again, besides Malarys' one?
 
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DragonParadox said:
I think you are not giving conservatives enough credit, the definition of conservative may shift in time, but they will always exist. Nostalgia as well as the desire to avoid the uncertainties of change are powerful draws especially for those already at or near the tip of the social pyramid.
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I meant the current conservatives, like those Iron guys in Braavos.
Of course some new form of conservatism will grow, but those that do not accept the return of magic and magical beings as the leading and changing force of this world will be gone in a generation, with significantly less to give to their heirs than right now.
 
@DragonParadox Can you weigh in on the use of the Create Demiplane line of Pathfinder spells? Can we use them? If so, can we use the option to Permanency them?

I thought I had asked about them ages ago, but now I'm questioning my memory.
 
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What were they again, besides Malarys' one?
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The idea was, that every member of the party/companions (including Xor, Vee, Teana, Maelor, etc) writes a book on the subject they are most versed in in their free time.

So, Waymar with Tyene work on alchemy/poisons book, Vee on a guide on animals and nature (or, well, notes to later made into a book by someone who is actually interested in doing that, unlike Vee), etc.
It started exactly 2 months ago.

@Duesal, I was keeping tabs on this. :p I just didn't think that them writing in their free time for 2 months would be in any way enough, so I didn't ask :/
 
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I bet Teana's going to feel better when she realizes she's one of the people in line for her own dragon.

... We really do need to get around to building a megastructure to house the dragons, though. Not another Dragonpit, something more dragon-friendly.
 
egoo said:
The idea was, that every member of the party/companions (including Xore, Vee, etc) writes a book on the subject they are most versed in in their free time.
So, Waymar with Tyene work on alchemy/poisons book, Vee on a guide on animals and nature (or, well, notes to later made into a book by someone who is actually interested in doing that, ulike Vee), etc.
It started exactly 2 months ago.
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@DragonParadox Could the Calligraphy Wyrms be used to clean up the writing, since I imagine few of our Companions have experience in publishing?
 
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