A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Wait, so Jon was planning on going to the wall?
Well, it's not like she's outright abusive. She's just a really cold bitch to him. Well, technically, that is kind of abusive but yeah.
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Why you guys care so much about yet another royal bastard(and baby Pc i suppose) who's unlikely to change anything when Restoration happens is beyond me.
It's an honorable place for bastards to go and sets aside all claims, so yes.
Let's just say Lyanna currently likes Robb a lot for what he said, enough that for his sake she no longer wants to hurt Caterlyn... or at least not seriously.
Crake
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Catelyn mostly just wants to send him south. Which is basically not going to ever happen, since Ned wouldn't ever consider it at risk of having a heart attack. But that's because he still thinks that the secret of Jon's parentage is dead with him and Howland still.
I think it's only a matter of time until Ned gives serious thought to the idea of divinatory and clairvoyant magic and the implications of such, though. I would not be surprised if he brings up the matter with Viserys before we do, if only because he'll be watching our actions around Jon carefully.
I don't think we'd give away that we know, but I do think if we express more than passing interest in him, Ned will suspect.
You honestly don't know thread motives by this point? I know you've been following for awhile.
A lot of the time, we fixate on people not because of what they can do for us, but what we can shape of such a relationship with just a little effort.
There are those who don't have any stake or interest in such, sure, but I wouldn't say that they're in the majority around here.
I think it's only a matter of time until Ned gives serious thought to the idea of divinatory and clairvoyant magic and the implications of such, though. I would not be surprised if he brings up the matter with Viserys before we do, if only because he'll be watching our actions around Jon carefully.
I don't think we'd give away that we know, but I do think if we express more than passing interest in him, Ned will suspect.
You honestly don't know thread motives by this point? I know you've been following for awhile.
A lot of the time, we fixate on people not because of what they can do for us, but what we can shape of such a relationship with just a little effort.
There are those who don't have any stake or interest in such, sure, but I wouldn't say that they're in the majority around here.
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Dragon rider and PC is more than enough of an investment to give a shit. Plus Viserys is a family man so IC and OOC it makes sense to give a shit about Jon. That and also a lot of people like him. Of that I'm very guilty
tarrangar
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I think she's a little more than that, not that much more than that, but if I remember right she's also influencing her children against Jon, and are insisting that propriety mean, that Jon shouldn't be treated as part of the family, it's not to any major degree by itself, but she uses her authority to pull every snub she can on Jon, such as insisting that it's improper that Jon sit with the family at feasts, even though by Northern traditions it's only unusual not a scandal.
TBH, I've always sort of thought that Catelyn was underrated character. I totally understand why people dislike her, but I kind of think she's a interesting character regardless.
Putting everything else aside, all the foreshadowing for Lady Stoneheart was pretty great.
He was a pretty important and likable character in ASOIAF. Also, he is Viserys' family. Not that much of a surprise.
Putting everything else aside, all the foreshadowing for Lady Stoneheart was pretty great.
He was a pretty important and likable character in ASOIAF. Also, he is Viserys' family. Not that much of a surprise.
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Vote Tally : A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover | Page 8365 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 209120-209250]
##### NetTally 1.9.10
[X] Use Tor's Skull to curse him.
-[X] Reduce his Wisdom attribute to 1
-[X] Prepare a strike team to capture him ahead of time, then Scry his location once he is cursed.
--[X] Once located, Viserys, Dany, Garin, and Richard Teleport to his location to capture him.
No. of Votes: 6
Goldfish
Artemis1992
Crake
Dracikral
egoo
One Autumn Leaf
[X] Ask Yss if the following would succeed:
-[X] Curse Tor to reduce Wisdom to 1
-[X] Immediately afterwards, Scry his location, Greater Teleport there with Lya and Richard, have Lya cast Dominate Person on him and then have Viserys cast Celerity to cast Greater Teleport back to Yss' sanctum with everyone and dominated Tor.
No. of Votes: 4
Tomcost
Agent Whiskers
Azel
MTB
[X] Do not curse him, lest you give your renewed hunt away
No. of Votes: 2
BeepSmile
DkArthas
Total No. of Voters: 12
Vote Tally : A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover | Page 8365 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 209120-209250]
##### NetTally 1.9.10
[X] Use Tor's Skull to curse him.
-[X] Reduce his Wisdom attribute to 1
-[X] Prepare a strike team to capture him ahead of time, then Scry his location once he is cursed.
--[X] Once located, Viserys, Dany, Garin, and Richard Teleport to his location to capture him.
No. of Votes: 6
Goldfish
Artemis1992
Crake
Dracikral
egoo
One Autumn Leaf
[X] Ask Yss if the following would succeed:
-[X] Curse Tor to reduce Wisdom to 1
-[X] Immediately afterwards, Scry his location, Greater Teleport there with Lya and Richard, have Lya cast Dominate Person on him and then have Viserys cast Celerity to cast Greater Teleport back to Yss' sanctum with everyone and dominated Tor.
No. of Votes: 4
Tomcost
Agent Whiskers
Azel
MTB
[X] Do not curse him, lest you give your renewed hunt away
No. of Votes: 2
BeepSmile
DkArthas
Total No. of Voters: 12
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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People don't like Catelyn because they get the impression that virtually nothing would have shaken her from her own point of view, barring unmitigated circumstances. She would have taken pretty much anything as something which reinforced her initial position, rather than the other way around.
If Ned had told her the truth about Jon, she would have doubled down on her position about him being a threat, and worse, she would have considered Ned a threat to her child (the heir of his seat) for making a "rash and dangerous judgement against the better interests of the family" I.E her child.
Catelyn later on at least loved Ned enough that I doubt she would have betrayed him, but given the first opportunity I totally see her exiling Jon the moment Ned wasn't around.
Which is really the one point which makes her better than Cersei, if not altogether likable. She probably wouldn't have murdered Jon, if only because she knows it would make her children hate her. Cersei pleads the fact that she loves nothing more than her children, but mostly as extensions of herself and how they reflect on her.
Catelyn and Cersei are only superficially similar. One's love is always recursive and self-interested, and the other's is more selfless and implicit.
Both make irrational judgement calls they shouldn't.
If Ned had told her the truth about Jon, she would have doubled down on her position about him being a threat, and worse, she would have considered Ned a threat to her child (the heir of his seat) for making a "rash and dangerous judgement against the better interests of the family" I.E her child.
Catelyn later on at least loved Ned enough that I doubt she would have betrayed him, but given the first opportunity I totally see her exiling Jon the moment Ned wasn't around.
Which is really the one point which makes her better than Cersei, if not altogether likable. She probably wouldn't have murdered Jon, if only because she knows it would make her children hate her. Cersei pleads the fact that she loves nothing more than her children, but mostly as extensions of herself and how they reflect on her.
Catelyn and Cersei are only superficially similar. One's love is always recursive and self-interested, and the other's is more selfless and implicit.
Both make irrational judgement calls they shouldn't.
egoo
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Ill answer that in his stead.
We did collect it, or rather, the pieces that were left of it.
Though I can't remember, whether or not DP told us its CL, if it has any after being destroyed, of course.
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1) The plan requires Lya for a gra d total of 12 seconds. She can use the Runestaff, others can't
2) I want to beat them in action economy. The abduction will last just 6 seconds tops if Viserys casts Celerity. Perhaps even less.
I wan't expecting this vote to be as contested as it is honestly.
Goldfish
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What Runestaff are you talking about?
There is no action economy to beat in this instance. Viserys Teleports to the location, we grab an insensate vegetable Tor, then Teleport back.
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Will Lya lose the full day if we only use her to cast Dominate person?