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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Gawain said:
So, here is a mystery in the ASOIAF world that I would like others opinions on. I learned this from the Atlas of Ice and Fire (you should all go see it, the person there has done wonderful statistics on the entire known world, including distances and geography)

Scattered across the known world are strange, fused black stone structures, which feel oily to the touch. The predate literally every known human civilization. They are found on multiple islands, Pyke in the Iron Islands, multiple islands belonging to Lorath, on Battle island in Oldtown harbour, and on the Isle of Toads in the Basalisk islands. They make up the foundations of the some od the oldest cities in YiTi, as well as in the construction of the Five Forts on YiTi's edge. Finally, they make up the entire city of Yeen in Sothoryos, and as well as the city of Asshai.

I wanted to know what you guys thought about it. I'm pretty sure that DragonParadox might of refereced it as the ruins of the ancient kingdom of dragons, but I'm not sure.
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Clearly they're signs left from the ancient past so Prince Joffrey can fulfill his destiny... :lol:lol:lol:oops:

Also... WHOOO!!! TYROSH IS OURS!

*Throws confetti around*

Well done gentlemen/woman! Well done!

[X] Azel

 
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Azel said:
It's more meant as a baseline for interacting with the Archon himself anyway.

The deal is pretty simple.
- He publicly steps down in our favor.
- He gives us every bit of dirt or intel he has on the other magisters.
- He will "voluntarily" go into exile for his failings. Specifically Braavos, which neatly insulates him from either retaliation of the others or the scheming of the other Daughters. Also turns him into a honeypot for the Anti-Viserys faction in Braavosi politics.
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Triple layered scheme? That last one was pretty devious all by itself... seems you're on a roll Azel!
 
[X] Azel

bigbow said:
I personally like the Targeryean Empire, its just the most logical name for it and sounds great as well. Don't know how to justify IC the 'Imperium', but it sounds nice as well, wouldn't be mad if that one won instead.
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Well traditionally named empires imply the bloodine will go on forever, so we should call it The Viserys Empire.
 
Azel said:
We can still make a Evil / Negative Energy Arcanum for Questionable Research to fulfill that goal.
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I did write up a NeE-Arcanum with research-focus once.
And cheap Necromancy via Fell Awaken and Arcane Thesis.
Good researchers need their self-made bodyguards.

[X] Azel

Edit: It's not Evil though.
 
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I don't really like the idea of deliberately creating an Evil font of Negative Energy, and I have trouble imagining that Lya would ever create such a being.
 
Tomcost said:
Who wants to build the Halls of the Fallen made out of the statues of all the deceased legionaries? It would help to cement the culture of the Legions, while being a hidden reserve of soldiers if we even need one.

Bonus points because it is also a touristic attraction.

@Azel ?
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How about no? Also we won't be able to mass ressurrect them anyway unless you drop a Miracle after you de-stone them all.
 
Artemis1992 said:
I did write up a NeE-Arcanum with research-focus once.
And cheap Necromancy via Fell Awaken and Arcane Thesis.
Good researchers need their self-made bodyguards.

[X] Azel
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Goldfish said:
I don't really like the idea of deliberately creating an Evil font of Negative Energy, and I have trouble imagining that Lya would ever create such a being.
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I thought the whole negative energy Arcanum ideas were out once DP confirmed they'd, basically, be a hazard not worth the risk?

I remember it as basically: Pick 2 -> Depressed as hell/angry with herself /// Hates us for making her that way /// Psycopath unable to be a team player in any way and will probably betray us /// Is moody and can't be motivated to do stuff.
 
Goldfish said:
No, that's basically a slow, torturous death, as one is forced to watch themselves transform into a plant over a period of seven days. That's pretty damned horrific, to be honest.

And we don't have access to it, either, since it's too high level to Blood Wish.
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Point on the blood wish, but we can accelerate the plantification via ability damage or curses
 
[X] "Of course your father will receive a fair trial."

Just exile him if he has no crimes we need to execute him for, exile him to Mantarys to be precise, the Archon's will certainly take him, if it mean saving him from execution, or whatever other fate we would give him, to prevent him from being used as a rallying point, it's not like he's that good a rallying point to start with, the Archon's position isn't hereditary, so he's not a much better rallying point than another Tyroshi noble,
 
We were talking about permanent turtlefication earlier, I looked up my very favorite ending for Voldemort in all fanfiction, its in the last two paragraphs of this story.

As far as names go, how about the Planetos Imperium? But, maybe we should start smaller. Hows about the Empire of Eastern Essos for now? No joking though, I'm assuming we will have a formal coronation at some point. How big do we get before we do that?
 
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Cloudkill has a Cousin that can non-lethally take out a building. We could get creative with "Because the vapors are heavier than air, they sink to the lowest level of the surface over which they move, pouring down sinkhole openings, and even down through minute cracks."
 
[X] Tarrangar
I agree that this dude does not need to die.
 
bigbow said:
I thought the whole negative energy Arcanum ideas were out once DP confirmed they'd, basically, be a hazard not worth the risk?

I remember it as basically: Pick 2 -> Depressed as hell/angry with herself /// Hates us for making her that way /// Psycopath unable to be a team player in any way and will probably betray us /// Is moody and can't be motivated to do stuff.
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They would be anti-social and somewhat moody, but nothing more.

People keep claiming that they would betray us, but that's flat out wrong, since all Arcanums are loyal by default. Neither would they run around and randomly murder people for no reason.
 
Tomcost said:
Who wants to build the Halls of the Fallen made out of the statues of all the deceased legionaries? It would help to cement the culture of the Legions, while being a hidden reserve of soldiers if we even need one.

Bonus points because it is also a touristic attraction.

@Azel ?
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All the yes, especially if they are still armed and armored when petrified.

Hm, how about we name it the 'Hall of Heroes' :V
 
Azel said:
They would be anti-social and somewhat moody, but nothing more.

People keep claiming that they would betray us, but that's flat out wrong, since all Arcanums are loyal by default. Neither would they run around and randomly murder people for no reason.
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Didn't DP say they'd hate us for creating them with so much in built misery? Sure, they'd be loyal somehow, but still...

Note that I'd like to create them too, but the way DP interprets alignments we'd just be creating people who hate themselves and are vaguely miserable and hate us. He said as much a few months ago. I disagree with that, but unless you can change his mind then creating evil/negative energy arcanums is just something horrible to inflict on said creation, plus, you know, creating a miserable character.

Edit: Besides, they'd be loyal to Lya. They'd see the rest of the world like an Evil Outsider does, a pointless, infuriatingly inflexible alien way of thinking we all hate to manage/juggle.
 
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My objections to a NE research arcanum are more to do with inter-party politics. Lya, in addition to dating Viserys, also somewhat tries to set limits for him on magical research and the like for his own good. These generally aren't very restrictive, because Lya really, really likes researching things, but there are things she wouldn't research. Lya is smart enough to realize that building a NE researcher to bypass that aspect of her role in our court would be a...counter-productive idea from her perspective, and she's the one who holds the keys to making arcanums. So I think the idea is a non-starter from the beginning.
 
Diomedon said:
My objections to a NE research arcanum are more to do with inter-party politics. Lya, in addition to dating Viserys, also somewhat tries to set limits for him on magical research and the like for his own good. These generally aren't very restrictive, because Lya really, really likes researching things, but there are things she wouldn't research. Lya is smart enough to realize that building a NE researcher to bypass that aspect of her role in our court would be a...counter-productive idea from her perspective, and she's the one who holds the keys to making arcanums. So I think the idea is a non-starter from the beginning.
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We have convinced her to go into areas of magic she would not have sought out on her own before.
We can do it again.
No big drama.
 
Diomedon said:
My objections to a NE research arcanum are more to do with inter-party politics. Lya, in addition to dating Viserys, also somewhat tries to set limits for him on magical research and the like for his own good. These generally aren't very restrictive, because Lya really, really likes researching things, but there are things she wouldn't research. Lya is smart enough to realize that building a NE researcher to bypass that aspect of her role in our court would be a...counter-productive idea from her perspective, and she's the one who holds the keys to making arcanums. So I think the idea is a non-starter from the beginning.
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You guys could probably convince her, but she would feel obligated to look over everything to make sure nothing too horrific happens.
 
Azel said:
It's more meant as a baseline for interacting with the Archon himself anyway.

The deal is pretty simple.
- He publicly steps down in our favor.
- He gives us every bit of dirt or intel he has on the other magisters.
- He will "voluntarily" go into exile for his failings. Specifically Braavos, which neatly insulates him from either retaliation of the others or the scheming of the other Daughters. Also turns him into a honeypot for the Anti-Viserys faction in Braavosi politics.
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Thinking on this, it might be useful to talk to the Sealord about how good an idea this is before handing down a sentence of Bravvosi exile, because if it's not a great idea, then we can send him to Manterys with the people who were talked down from burning the records room.
 
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