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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on May 3, 2018 at 2:27 PM, finished with 186050 posts and 21 votes.

  • [X] Plan Getting Shit Done.
    -[X] Quickly escort the children back to the legion.
    -[X] Order a detachment to keep them under guard and separate from the other civilians and surrendered soldiers. Ensure that the soldiers guarding them know that they are not to be mistreated. Otherwise, their priorities are to secure the archives and treasury.
    -[X] Teleport with Richard and Varys to reinforce the forces in the northern slums, where Daemon activity is expected to be heavy.
    [X] Plan Orphan Security
    -[X] Escort the children quickly back to the legion.
    -[X] Make it clear on the way that you hold no ill will against them, and that they receive fair treatment as befits their station.
    -[X] Order a detachment to keep them under guard and separate from the other civilians and surrendered soldiers.
    -[X] Ensure that the soldiers guarding them know that they are not to be mistreated, and to be granted any reasonable requests given what they've just been through.
    -[X] Teleport with Richard and Varys to reinforce the forces in the northern slums, where Daemon activity is expected to be heavy.
    [x]Azel
 
In future conquests I want a swarm of pseudodragons and wyrmling constructs equipped with Bags of Holding. We'll send them straight to the treasury while we handle everything else.

We're definitely doing Dragonstone for a few days next turn. Those pseudodragons are going to be great.
 
We have so many reason not to bring back the mother.

1) She's not worth the 1000 IM cost
2) She's a slaver
3) We're trying not to broadcast that we can bring the dead back to life. The Manderly mage was worth it and the risk was mitigated by the fact that nobody would believe sailor gossip. This woman is not worth the risk.
4) Her being dead is convenient for us, since we get to profit off of the subsequent trial of her killers.
5) Her being alive would get in the way of us brainwashing the kids to be fanatically loyal to us.

Points 1 and 3 are the major ones, though. She is not worth the cost nor the risk. If there are Unsullied we can just kill them, we're not desperately looking for a way to make them surrender.

Yep, this are some of the reasons I didn't make a custom vote that did that.
But my biggest reason for not doing that is that I have no idea about the role of women/the archon's wife in the order of things. e.g. is Tyrosh Ultra-Patriarchial.
...and of course that my empathy for the Tyroshi way of life is kinda thin ("famed for it's ingenious torture devices")

She'd be useful if she cooperates, I doubt that the children have as much political capital to stabilize things. But again no idea about the role of her in Tyroshi society.
 
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So, any ideas how to prevent this in the future?

Bad enough what did happen, but this could also have set our future administrative center on fire or destroyed valuable documents. Might even try to escape with loot.
We should try to take measures next conquest, learn from the damages done here.

First is obviously to punish all looters, arsonists, murderers and rapists that acted here while we marched through the palace.

But maybe we can do more with the next palace/keep/goverment-building we take. For example get a plan of the building and have a PC or two go directly from the outer walls or ceiling to the keypoints like the ruling family and the archive? Not like walls could stop them.
Or start of with a swarm of ravens from our staff flying through the corridors to show people we are watching them?
 
Interlude CCXL: Ashes of an Age
Ashes of an Age

Twenty-Seventh Day of the Second Month 293 AC

On wings of gold the dreamer flew free of the passage she had made to witness the night of Tyrosh's breaking. Each tongue of flame, each figure bearing arms, each fel misshapen fiend was clear before her sight... too clear, perhaps. The city was tearing itself apart in terror and confusion while daemons cavorted among its ruin. Daenerys Targaryen cursed lest she weep for those who had fallen and those who would yet follow them before this dreadful night was out. The puppet master had been slain, the strings cut from those he had so cunningly entangled, but now it seemed their foes had abandoned all pretense of planning, all hope of using the invasion as their chance to take Tyrosh for their own and were instead reveling in the slaughter.

Fiends bearing the skulls of horses and putrid vulture's wings flew through the air surrounded by a court of flies and pestilence, heralds of plague set to bring the city to a swift end now that the festering sore of their presence had been unveiled. Black-shafted arrows fell down upon the legions of the Deep and the Unsullied both, with no more care than pestilence itself was wont to show.


With a peal of thunder lost to the voice of the storm she flung one from the air, the heavenly warrior it had been dueling a moment ago following it down smiting it again and again with blessed hallowed flame. To men they might show mercy and honor to honorable foes, but Yrael's kin were not above striking at fiends whenever the chance showed itself.

Another two were trading bolts with the ancient iron sentinels, to their disfavor Daenerys saw with glee, for thrice accursed flesh could not match unyielding iron, nor powers of ruin catch hold upon wards wrought long ago in lost Sarnor.

The legions battled those daemons without wings to carry them forth in their depredations, through waves of spell fire and walls of blinding darkness marched the monstrous hosts of Abaddon and by cold steel touched by sorcery they were met. Proud flew the Banner of the Slayers, as once it must have done above the armies of Valyria.

"Fools and cowards, bring forth thine feeble arts!" Amrelath challenged, his voice like the crack of bone, like the roars of fires ever-hungry. "Come forth that I may break you swifter and spare the world thine wretched presence!"

Seeing that her aid was not urgently needed between the dead wyrm and the constructs Daenerys dived close, using her lesser magics to strike at the sorcerers amid the foes. Madmen and fools whose very souls had rotted from within but were no less dangerous for it, their art given wholly to the corruption and ruin of the world.

Glancing above she saw one of the last remaining fiends of pestilence die a death of a thousand cuts, or perhaps a thousand pricks, slain by Aradia as it futilely struggled to catch one of the griffins. Its companion sorely wounded found itself in Amrelath's path, though in the moment before it was ripped apart it did work one last piece of sorcery... an unraveling, perhaps hoping to undo whatever protections the dragon had against its ilk.

There were no wards to break... but the glamour that gave the long dead wyrm the semblance of life were torn away, revealing the horror of his own being for all to see.

Just then the wind began to howl farther to the north, deeper in the slums and unnatural sound that marked some blasphemy against life. Could they afford to be without Amrelath's aid when the dead began to rise in earnest?

OOC: So far the demons are managing only sightly more better than the Unsullied, the poor things. Dany and Lya killed the cultist leader who got his wits together first before the others could formulate a plan which so far has led to Daemons, cultists, and lesser mages running wild.
 
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So, any ideas how to prevent this in the future?

Bad enough what did happen, but this could also have set our future administrative center on fire or destroyed valuable documents. Might even try to escape with loot.
We should try to take measures next conquest, learn from the damages done here.

First is obviously to punish all looters, arsonists, murderers and rapists that acted here while we marched through the palace.

But maybe we can do more with the next palace/keep/goverment-building we take. For example get a plan of the building and have a PC or two go directly from the outer walls or ceiling to the keypoints like the ruling family and the archive? Not like walls could stop them.
Or start of with a swarm of ravens from our staff flying through the corridors to show people we are watching them?

Making it clear that we expect non-combatants to be treated well and fairly, that we don't support sacks, and that we are not afraid to execute deserting defenders who show "initiative" with the noose and trumpet it far and wide. That those who lay down their weapons will be spared, but those who turn those weapons on those who have none have earned only death.

I also prefer Snowfire's more explicit wording. We only promise to be fair, nothing more. That's what we already plan on doing.

[X] Snowfire
 
So, any ideas how to prevent this in the future?

Bad enough what did happen, but this could also have set our future administrative center on fire or destroyed valuable documents. Might even try to escape with loot.
We should try to take measures next conquest, learn from the damages done here.

First is obviously to punish all looters, arsonists, murderers and rapists that acted here while we marched through the palace.

But maybe we can do more with the next palace/keep/goverment-building we take. For example get a plan of the building and have a PC or two go directly from the outer walls or ceiling to the keypoints like the ruling family and the archive? Not like walls could stop them.
Or start of with a swarm of ravens from our staff flying through the corridors to show people we are watching them?

The only thing I would have done differently in hindsight is maybe use Clarion Call when we were doing our fly-by with Amrelath and state our terms clearly: Those that throw down their weapons or flee will be spared; people should lock themselves up and stay indoors, those that do not and resort to looting and mob justice will be punished; officials that surrender and tell their troops to do the same will be granted leniency, they may even maintain their position should they be clear of misdeeds; all will be judged for crimes or atrocities done during the fighting; higher officials will also have to answer for those below them, should they insist on making it difficult.

Things like that. Might have made the common soldier far more likely to defect or , and less willing to follow their bosses to the end. Likewise, it might get the weaker nobles and bureaucrats with little power to outright surrender from the start out of fear of being made responsible for what little troops they have, and in hopes of not only making it out alive, but maybe even retain their power or even rise in position as the upper hierarchy is cleared.
 
The legions battled those daemons without wings to carry them forth in their depredations, though waves of spelll fire and walls of blinding darkness marched the monstrous hosts of Abadon and by cold steel touched by sorcery they were met.Pround flew the banner of the slayers, as once it must have done above the armies of Valyria.

"Fools and cowards, bring forth thine feeble arts!" Amrelath challenged, his voice like the crack of bone, like the roars of fires ever-hungry. "Come forth that I may break you swifter and spare the world thine wretched presence."
So most of our troops in the northern areas are now together, both the Moonsong-group, the part of the Legion supposed to hold the slums and Amrelath?

I guess that's the perfect place to teleport over and move further north to the newest threat for Viserys then.
 
Er...I'm confused. How is there a problem to the north of where they are (that's where the shadow tower was to deploy)? And there should be a wall between Amrelath's position and Moonsong's group. Did they take the gates?
 
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Er...I'm confused. How is there a problem to the north of where they are (that's where the shadow tower was to deploy)? And there should be a wall between Amrelath's position and Moonsong's group. Did they take the gates?

Moonsong & Co probably penetrated into the catacombs with Lya through fabricate, killed the leader (who was said to have been killed in the update) and then probably left the catacombs through one of the actual exits to hit the demon forces from the rear, who emerged where Amrelath is.

At least that is how I'm understanding it.
 
So the divined Thanadaemon and its undead army have not shown themselves yet.

I guess that's what's coming up North.
Cetrtainly good for burning.
Amrelath will be useful, no matter if he's revealed now.
 
Moonsong & Co probably penetrated into the catacombs with Lya through fabricate, killed the leader (who was said to have been killed in the update) and then probably left the catacombs through one of the actual exits to hit the demon forces from the rear, who emerged where Amrelath is.

At least that is how I'm understanding it.

Correct except for the fact that as Amrelath can fly he is hunting demons all over the sky.
 
Can we pass off Amrelath's "condition" as being cursed by the fiend he tore apart? Seeing as he started the conquest as a living dragon to most people then "turned undead" after fighting some fiends of rot?

I mean its not as if the normal rank and file know its a glamour right?
 
Yes. The Tyroshi guards protecting the gates outright surrendered.

*whistles* Moonsong's group is tearing through the city amazingly fast. They landed in the harbor, made it through the city to the daemon outpost, hit the daemon outpost (with help from Lya and Dany, cut through it, and moved north linking up with the Shadow Tower group #2.

Looks like the Exit in the northern slums was further north than we guessed, or had a secondary exit they decided to use (or perhaps make).

Can we pass off Amrelath's "condition" as being cursed by the fiend he tore apart? Seeing as he started the conquest as a living dragon to most people then "turned undead" after fighting some fiends of rot?

I mean its not as if the normal rank and file know its a glamour right?

A good cover story. We should still probably use a bloodwish or Wyla to recast the spell if we're able, though, to "cure" him.
 
Amrelath will be useful, no matter if he's revealed now.

Honestly it's probably better propaganda that he looks like a Dragonlich now.

Can you imagine the tales? Someone watches a dragon literally get the flesh 'torn' from its bones and the fucker keeps burning shit.

Cross the Dragon king if you want, but everyone has seen that not even death itself can hold them back should their wrath demand it.
 
Can we pass off Amrelath's "condition" as being cursed by the fiend he tore apart? Seeing as he started the conquest as a living dragon to most people then "turned undead" after fighting some fiends of rot?

I mean its not as if the normal rank and file know its a glamour right?
We can certainly try to spin the rumors later, but word that undead fought on both sides will get out.
 
How revealed is Amrelath? As in, if he hid now and wasn't sent anywhere else would tales spread, or would they remain minor rumours most would ignore?
"Yes yes, the Dragon King brought the Dragons to life once again. We know."
 
A good cover story. We should still probably use a bloodwish or Wyla to recast the spell if we're able, though, to "cure" him.
Maybe instead of immediately recasting the spell we can just leave him as is and "cure" him when we make him a new body? I mean we already have a valid excuse and this way we avoid future incidents like this.
 
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