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If he sat upon the Iron Throne in truth and Volantis sent someone to steal from him how would Viserys act?
It might not be treason but he sit's on a throne, it's certainly deserving of death.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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If he sat upon the Iron Throne in truth and Volantis sent someone to steal from him how would Viserys act?
It might not be treason but he sit's on a throne, it's certainly deserving of death.
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Okay. Any suggestions then? How about Alter Self, or Melf's Acid Arrow?
Anything else to change in the build?
@DragonParadox Can you answer this please? If it is as Diomedon says, I promise to not touch this topic anymore. 
@DragonParadox would it be OOC of Viserys to atleast consider cursing all Lannisters as Starks did Andalos?
What is his thoughts on the matter of pragmatic first strikes. (I know what his lawyer would say atleast.)
Depends on the curse but generally no inconceivable no.
Night guys.
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I don't see why we couldn't teach it to Lya. It took divine intervention to learn it in the first place, but now that we have it we should be able to teach it to others.
EDIT: If that's still "we can't teach it to anyone" then we have to assume that Bahamut is actively blocking us from that.
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@DragonParadox Can you answer this please? If it is as Diomedon says, I promise to not touch this topic anymore.
No you are right. Extra feat included in training.
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Well yes, but do we want to devote precious Vyserys time to teach it to Sarah, who won't be one of our main fights?
Probably not.
And @Duesal, do you intend to start counting her as a minor adventurer and give her an amulet of PFE and a Healing Belt and whatnot?
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Not really. She's basically another Leila or Teana who doesn't want to fight. She just told us she wants to be a healer. I'm somewhat bemused that you're insisting that she becomes an adventurer when you so adamantly argue against asking Teana to come along for fights.
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The thing about 'not wanting to hurt anyone anymore' means 'no adventuring'. Or so I read it.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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We're sooo making getting us some gods an action in next few months.
Sure, they won't be a part of our "main" pantheon, but even small shrines to Weeping Lady and Moonsinger will work great in both helping our citizen, raising average pc-levels (clerics) and giving us some good choices if needed.
We don't lose anything, they won't infringe on our...
Anything, really.
But they'll make a good part of "the most magical city on the plane", while simultaneously pissing off Seven and Burny and making it just a wee bit harder for enemy gods to operate there.
Really, even if just to piss off Seven and Burnt they're worth it.
Sure, they won't be a part of our "main" pantheon, but even small shrines to Weeping Lady and Moonsinger will work great in both helping our citizen, raising average pc-levels (clerics) and giving us some good choices if needed.
We don't lose anything, they won't infringe on our...
Anything, really.
But they'll make a good part of "the most magical city on the plane", while simultaneously pissing off Seven and Burny and making it just a wee bit harder for enemy gods to operate there.
Really, even if just to piss off Seven and Burnt they're worth it.
You say this, I say: "Gunboat diplomacy is still a viable method of diplomacy".
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That's the way I read it too.
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It was originally tought by a god's servant, but since then every sorcerous decendants of those who learned it can get it from the Sorc-list.
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Honestly I don't think she should be built as a Sorcerer healer. It's bad enough that she's a Sorcerer, but then gimping her by trying to shoe horn her into being a cut-rate healer, that's just not cool.
Hopefully Yss can Clericify her, or barring that, we can use a tweaked version of the False Priest PrC to make her somewhat viable.
@DragonParadox, is there any way we can get Yss some clerics? He can support mystics, after all, and I can't imagine there is no one out for whom the idea of life, death, and always keeping to your bargains appeals, especially since we do have his Divine Avatar. It honestly kinda breaks my sod a little bit that we don't have any clerics, or at least adepts, for him?
You roll for the advancement of our wizards, rig? Why not roll for Yss recruitment?
You roll for the advancement of our wizards, rig? Why not roll for Yss recruitment?
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He does. It's just a hard roll and so it's never happened yet. But eventually some of his Acoytes will be blessed with power.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I was trying to say that we have copies of most of our knowledge, so we wouldn't lose it, our enemies would just gain it, and that just mean they will have new research about it, for us to loot when we crush them.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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...He does have some clerics now, he's been training people (albeit, just as slowly as everything he does, damn fat snake) since mantis god-head incident.
Though to be fair, we also didn't put any effort in ramping up our religious propaganda.
Mostly, because he's just a tad bit too alien for people to comprehend and we're waiting to try and get whoever is at his temple back in jungles.
My guess though, everyone is dead, eaten my Lolth, because we waited far too long :/
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In theory, I imagine Yss making her a cleric could work as a sacrifice of her Sorcerer levels and magical blood and then getting Cleric levels as a boon. Not sure how the conversion would go, Yss likes fairness so maybe 1/1, but that could be overpowered if anyone could swap their levels like that.
Maybe it'd require a ritual with some blood spilling to symbolize how she's sacrificing her magic?
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...I know the thread hates Burny so much, but you can't deny that he has power. We even talked to him. What if we were to harness that power instead? A sect like Benerro's perhaps? One that can tolerate other religions, just a little preachy.
So some points on getting to the good side of R'hllor:
*Valyria, and most Free Cities had coexisted with them for centuries with no problem.
*The Light of Creation texts gives huge bonuses if you are a follower of the Red Faith.
*They are very tolerant of sorcery and blood magic.
*Fire is not their only weapon, Shadowbinders in canon are powerful.
*Lawful Evil religion. They will not bat an eye in summoning demons/devils as means to an end, then sacrifice them to Burny.
*Another sacrifice outlet.
*Bunch of bodies to throw against the Long Night.
*Fire Wights!
He does, but Yss is too alien. That's why we're fetching some of his children in a few months time.
So some points on getting to the good side of R'hllor:
*Valyria, and most Free Cities had coexisted with them for centuries with no problem.
*The Light of Creation texts gives huge bonuses if you are a follower of the Red Faith.
*They are very tolerant of sorcery and blood magic.
*Fire is not their only weapon, Shadowbinders in canon are powerful.
*Lawful Evil religion. They will not bat an eye in summoning demons/devils as means to an end, then sacrifice them to Burny.
*Another sacrifice outlet.
*Bunch of bodies to throw against the Long Night.
*Fire Wights!
He does, but Yss is too alien. That's why we're fetching some of his children in a few months time.
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Huh. Good point. The first time we saw her she tried to fight us, so I guess that my first impression was that of a fighter. But making her fight now really is a dick move isn't it?
And the build I gave her really isn't one for fights at all. Still, I don't particularly care if she doesn't fight directly unless attacked. Touch of Healing makes her a good healer: endless healing up to 1/2 HP is pretty great after battles for example.
Eventually she'll level once or twice again I suppose.
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@DragonParadox go the fuck to sleep and stop answering questions
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I would love for her to be Clericified, but it's relatively easy to build a Sorcerer as a decent healer without detracting too much from their focus.
Actually, that's the problem with my last build. It's go no focus, but she isn't a great generalist either. Let's try again!
New build coming in a few minutes, in a new post.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
DP all but confirmed that Yss can clericify her for the right sacrifice, the question is whether Yss is too scary for her to want to be his cleric.
I think it would work more than we sacrifice something around CR10, and then Yss use our share of the sacrifice, to convert her sorcerer levels to cleric levels.