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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Adhoc vote count started by Crake on Mar 18, 2018 at 3:19 AM, finished with 131 posts and 21 votes.
  • [X] Plan Knight TNE
    -[X] As is proper, you start by recognizing his deeds and valor.
    --[X] For outstanding bravery in battle, for rising above and beyond the call of duty. For slaying a Cambion Demon with its own blade while at the tender age of thirteen, for putting to rest a specter with your own hands, for your participation in the assault of an underwater fortress filled with unholy creatures, for your participation in the defense of Cracklaw Point, for your aid in battling a mighty Mallor when but a neophyte, for your slaying of a Fire Giant, and last but certainly not least, for the outright smiting of the Dark Genie known as the Nameless One, Terror of the Inner Planes, and freeing Princess Embra from its curse.
    --[X] For through it all, acting with honor and dignity, holding fast to noble principles. For that and more, you've earned the right to be a Knight.
    -[X] So answer me, Waymar of House Royce, do you swear before the eyes of gods and men to defend those who cannot defend themselves, to protect all who need protecting, to obey your captains, your liege lord, and your king, to fight bravely when needed and do such other tasks as are laid upon you, however hard or humble or dangerous they may be?
    -[X] And so, I hereby dub thee Ser Waymar Royce.
    -[X] *Viserys proffers him the Ring, which activates as he rises* Rise now, a Knight of the Realm.
    -[X] After the congratulations are done, do mention how a Knight requires a noble steed, and whistle for Cloud, whom you have waiting nearby, wearing resplendent mithral plate barding.
    [X] Plan Mormont
    [X] Nope
    [X] Under the bows of a gods wood if available. If not then a suitably dramatic clearing or glade. Perhaps using the lay of the land staff to find a suitable location.
    -[X] Waymar will kneel before you. Then say as such.
    -[X] "Waymar Royce. You have served me faithfully for many years. Defending my family, my kingdom, and my person from man and horror alike. You have proven your skill, your bravery, and your honor time and time again. In the face of fiends, the walking dead, monstrous creatures, and the subtler evils of men you have been steadfast. You have never shyed from duty or obedience however onerous. Nor have you abused your skill, power, and authority. Thou hast upheld every ideal and tenement of knighthood since you came into my service. It is my honor to give it to you in truth."
    -[X] "Waymar of house Royce, do you swear before the eyes of gods and men to defend those who cannot defend themselves? To protect all without prejudice? To obey your captains, your liege lord, and your king? To fight bravely against the Darkness and do such other tasks as are needful? However hard, or humble, or dangerous they may be?"
    -[X] "I, -Insert name-, Swear by my name and power to honor my king, by my magic i will guard the realm against those that would destroy it, by my honor I would protect the innocent and judge the guilty, with my strength I will pursue my foes and chase my goal, by my wisdom I will heed the orders of those above me, by this oath I am now and until I am released from it a Knight, and my life is the realm's."
    -[X] "Rise Ser Waymar Royce."
    -[X] *Viserys proffers him the Ring, which activates as he rises* Rise now, a Knight of the Realm.
    -[X] After the congratulations are done, do mention how a Knight requires a noble steed, and whistle for Cloud, whom you have waiting nearby, wearing resplendent mithral plate barding.
    [X] Plan Mormont
    -[X] Gather under a Godswood if such can be found
    --[X] Fetch Cloud from SD to join Waymar and meet his family
    -[X] As is proper, you start by recognizing his deeds and valor recounting particularly harrowing and impressive feats.
    --[X] "Through it all you have acted with honor and dignity, holding fast to noble principles. For that and more, you've earned this."
    -[X] "So answer me, Waymar of House Royce, do you swear before the eyes of gods and men to defend those who cannot defend themselves, to protect the helpless, to obey your captains, your liege lord, and your king, to fight bravely when needed and do such other tasks as are laid upon you, however hard or humble or dangerous they may be?"
    -[X] Upon his answer in the affirmative, respond "Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that the gods may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong – that is your oath."
    -[X] *Viserys proffers him the Ring, which activates as he rises* "Arise a Knight, Ser Waymar Royce."
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So consensus, or is the vote still under debate?
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Big lead for TNE and no discussion about it anymore.
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on Mar 18, 2018 at 12:25 AM, finished with 122 posts and 20 votes.
  • [X] Plan Knight TNE
    -[X] As is proper, you start by recognizing his deeds and valor.
    --[X] For outstanding bravery in battle, for rising above and beyond the call of duty. For slaying a Cambion Demon with its own blade while at the tender age of thirteen, for putting to rest a specter with your own hands, for your participation in the assault of an underwater fortress filled with unholy creatures, for your participation in the defense of Cracklaw Point, for your aid in battling a mighty Mallor when but a neophyte, for your slaying of a Fire Giant, and last but certainly not least, for the outright smiting of the Dark Genie known as the Nameless One, Terror of the Inner Planes, and freeing Princess Embra from its curse.
    --[X] For through it all, acting with honor and dignity, holding fast to noble principles. For that and more, you've earned the right to be a Knight.
    -[X] So answer me, Waymar of House Royce, do you swear before the eyes of gods and men to defend those who cannot defend themselves, to protect all who need protecting, to obey your captains, your liege lord, and your king, to fight bravely when needed and do such other tasks as are laid upon you, however hard or humble or dangerous they may be?
    -[X] And so, I hereby dub thee Ser Waymar Royce.
    -[X] *Viserys proffers him the Ring, which activates as he rises* Rise now, a Knight of the Realm.
    -[X] After the congratulations are done, do mention how a Knight requires a noble steed, and whistle for Cloud, whom you have waiting nearby, wearing resplendent mithral plate barding.
    [X] Plan Mormont
    [X] Nope
    [X] Under the bows of a gods wood if available. If not then a suitably dramatic clearing or glade. Perhaps using the lay of the land staff to find a suitable location.
    -[X] Waymar will kneel before you. Then say as such.
    -[X] "Waymar Royce. You have served me faithfully for many years. Defending my family, my kingdom, and my person from man and horror alike. You have proven your skill, your bravery, and your honor time and time again. In the face of fiends, the walking dead, monstrous creatures, and the subtler evils of men you have been steadfast. You have never shyed from duty or obedience however onerous. Nor have you abused your skill, power, and authority. Thou hast upheld every ideal and tenement of knighthood since you came into my service. It is my honor to give it to you in truth."
    -[X] "Waymar of house Royce, do you swear before the eyes of gods and men to defend those who cannot defend themselves? To protect all without prejudice? To obey your captains, your liege lord, and your king? To fight bravely against the Darkness and do such other tasks as are needful? However hard, or humble, or dangerous they may be?"
    -[X] "I, -Insert name-, Swear by my name and power to honor my king, by my magic i will guard the realm against those that would destroy it, by my honor I would protect the innocent and judge the guilty, with my strength I will pursue my foes and chase my goal, by my wisdom I will heed the orders of those above me, by this oath I am now and until I am released from it a Knight, and my life is the realm's."
    -[X] "Rise Ser Waymar Royce."
    -[X] *Viserys proffers him the Ring, which activates as he rises* Rise now, a Knight of the Realm.
    -[X] After the congratulations are done, do mention how a Knight requires a noble steed, and whistle for Cloud, whom you have waiting nearby, wearing resplendent mithral plate barding.
    [X] Plan Mormont
    -[X] Gather under a Godswood if such can be found
    --[X] Fetch Cloud from SD to join Waymar and meet his family
    -[X] As is proper, you start by recognizing his deeds and valor recounting particularly harrowing and impressive feats.
    --[X] "Through it all you have acted with honor and dignity, holding fast to noble principles. For that and more, you've earned this."
    -[X] "So answer me, Waymar of House Royce, do you swear before the eyes of gods and men to defend those who cannot defend themselves, to protect the helpless, to obey your captains, your liege lord, and your king, to fight bravely when needed and do such other tasks as are laid upon you, however hard or humble or dangerous they may be?"
    -[X] Upon his answer in the affirmative, respond "Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that the gods may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong – that is your oath."
    -[X] *Viserys proffers him the Ring, which activates as he rises* "Arise a Knight, Ser Waymar Royce."
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He thought that bringing Cloud to Runestone itself would be unwise. I doubt we'll be keeping him close by after this, unless we plan on leaving later in the day somewhere he might be useful (within the Vale, I suppose).
 
Actually if we could create a deniable trading fleet to spread our influence in Westeros. Would be a way for 'loyalists' ans opportunists alike to network.

Could even do it through Braavosi, maybe a subsidary called the three-headed-lizard?

edit: I presume the SSE aint welcome in Westeros?
 
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Takesis said:
So I was backreading.



@Duesal, @Azel, @Goldfish, @Diomedon, think we can get a trade deal for foodstuffs since we're in the forefront of an invasion anyway? We could sell them masterwork steel in exchange if we have extra.
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Actually, we can't. Taking into account the amount we gave to the Night's Watch, the steel wasn't just there to properly equip an appreciable number of our Legionnaires fully, which we might only barely manage given how we unexpectedly added to our number of recruits over the last month, we could have anywhere from 2500-3000 Legionnaires to equip by the time we're prepared to invade, meaning we'd need yet another trade deal with the Xorn to acquire more iron for Tyrosh's garrison of Greycloaks.

Our need for steel is voracious right now. We'd be better off trading them something else for it if at all.

I think that we couldn't get a very favorable deal from them on foodstuff anyway. While they don't live in a shitty part of the Vale, what resources they have are either unexploited due to lack of infrastructure, or are exploited enough to see to their needs.

The places where resource exploitation is maxed out are the Westerlands, ironically the Iron Islands (given what little they have to exploit), and possibly parts of the Crownlands. The Riverlands are underexploited and but have lots of arable land, enough that their relatively large population doesn't consume all that they grow. So trading with them (when they aren't getting stomped in open conflict) is second most ideal to trading with the Reach (who can still screw you if they know you're thin on options, otherwise you can leverage other sources to get a more favorable deal, given they're not working with lack).

The North is a bad trade partner for anything but timber, which they can sell you in appreciable amounts. The Vale isn't optimized because of their insular nature as well as frequent raids by Mountain Clansmen making isolated outposts nonviable.

Dorne has good luxury markets but poor bulk trade.

The Crownlands would have lots of food to sell, if it wasn't being given in priority to the capital for the most part.

And so on.
 
Crake said:
Actually, we can't. Taking into account the amount we gave to the Night's Watch, the steel wasn't just there to properly equip an appreciable number of our Legionnaires fully, which we might only barely manage given how we unexpectedly added to our number of recruits over the last month, we could have anywhere from 2500-3000 Legionnaires to equip by the time we're prepared to invade, meaning we'd need yet another trade deal with the Xorn to acquire more iron for Tyrosh's garrison of Greycloaks.
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We could always trade for iron with them, I meanwe wont get as good a deal as we get with the Xorn, but making iron into steel is normally expensive and we can do it for free, so we can probably get at least 5 times the amount of iron we give them in steel.

Just because the Xorn has the best prices for iron, don't mean the Xorns are the only one we can buy iron from, and if we pay in steel then it's all profit even at worse prices.
 
A trade deal like that would be really hard to hide. And our steel has pretty obvious origins given the peculiar consistency.
 
Long story short: We are not going to run out of needs, not wants, needs for steel any time soon. We also have to consider our trade stance with our closest ally, Braavos, who's bread and butter involves steel in appreciable amounts somewhere along their usual northeastern routes between Lorath and Ibb. This keeps the economy flowing locally while their merchant fleet sails farther afield.

And yes, this is relevant because while Yohn could choose to arm and armor all of his levies/men at arms with good steel, it would be really fucking obvious where it came from, so resale of it for other things he needs is just smarter in smaller incremental amounts, something still dangerous because the intrigue focused characters in Westeros are actually fucking competent at their jobs when they aren't biting the hand that feeds.
 
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Talking about Steel, we don't have those new golems under servitors yet.

Is that because DP hasn't updated them, or because they are still on the way by ship?
 
Thinking on it, I wonder how much mortal food would cost to buy from earth or air... Ya know, for wildlings (northern ones) or to stabalise the three sisters.
 
BeepSmile said:
Thinking on it, I wonder how much mortal food would cost to buy from earth or air... Ya know, for wildlings (northern ones) or to stabalise the three sisters.
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It would cost more than buying gold in the Opaline Vault. They don't exactly have a robust and thriving market in human food, considering the Plane of Earth lacks a sun and the Plane of Air lacks much in the way of "ground".

And most of the inhabitants don't actually eat.
 
It would be superneat if we can use PoA encounters for a levitating Heart Tree. Make it an island from the boon, or have one tier be a mud spell.

Anyhow, PoA enclave floating around near that city to work as a trading outpost / OG temple / embassy. :D
 
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Part MDCCCXXXIV: Honor's Due
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    • Honor's Due ​

    Twenty-Fifth Day of the First Month 293 AC

    Following Lord Royce's directions, your small company finds its way into a sunny clearing amidst the rich hills which lie at the foot of the Mountains of the Moon. Here copses of walnut, alder, and vine-shrouded oak mingle uneasily with the odd spruce and pine clinging to the more precarious slopes. A small stream tumbles through the rough center of the clearing before rushing on through the woods to the sea beyond. Though certainly lacking in the boar your were supposed to hunt you spot a handful of hares rushing out of the path of steel-shod hooves as fast as their legs can take them.

    "An old place this, though for once not one recalled for the blood shed upon it," Bronze Yohn announces as he commands his mount to halt with the practiced ease of a lifetime's skill. "The only bones that rest here do so in peace and contentment."

    Tis clear enough that all three Royce brothers know the tale already, but the old lord recounts it anyway for you, Ser Richard, and Tyene newly come by sorcerous paths, to the velied amazement of Robar and Andar, though markedly not Yohn Royce himself.

    "Almost a hundred years ago my great-grandfather wished to see a keep built here as a dower for his sister, but the story goes that she was so taken with this place and so often did she come to see it that by the time the first foundation stones were to be laid she could not bear to see the trees hewn and the stream channeled, and so her brother let it be. Though the lady was wed and died far from here, she comanded that she be buried here... beneath that white stone there." The bronze-armored lord points towards a man-high pillar of white almost surrounded by tall grasses and a profusion of wild flowers.

    "It seems a most fitting place for what we have come here to do," you agree, silently impressed at the care and forethought that went into choosing this place. Though Waymar would not have his knightly vigil amidst the tombs of his ancestors, nor say his vows where they might hear him, at least one of the Royces of old would be able to hear his pledge.

    You shed your borrowed seeming just as all your companions do theirs and walk with Waymar to stand close to the grave. Before turning to the others to speak you say to him: "I shan't ask you to take a knee while I recount your deeds, for even the briefest summation would leave you with a stiff knee."

    As you had half-expected that gets Waymar blushing slightly though he certainly does not look any less pleased for it.

    When next you speak your voice rings clear and true through the clearing, the majesty of long dead dragons in your voice, though no wyrm of crimson scales has ever spoken words such as these: "Let it be known to all kith, kin, and gods eternal and ever-present that Waymar Royce has shown valor in the face of foes that would drive lesser men to their knees. He has without flinching drawn his sword against foes out of darkest nightmare. At three-and-ten he slew a demon-kin warrior with its own blade when merely mortal steel proved to weak to harm the foul creature, and his deeds have only grown more worthy of honor and acclaim since that day: the defense of Crackclaw Point against the horrors of the Deep, the battle against the foul serpent demon who would have plunged the east into darkness beyond mortal kin, the slaying in a single blow of the dark spirit nameless among his kin for his heinous crimes. By all these deeds and many more besides he has shown himself to be bold, yet in counsel given there was also wisdom beyond his years and also temperance, kindness, and humility besides."

    As you speak surprise grows on the faces of Waymar's father and brothers, trying to make sense of all the fantastical deeds you are recounting, possibly trying to reconcile the boy who left Runestone almost three years ago with one who could perform them all.

    You turn again to Waymar, unsheathing Dark Sister as you do so, the blade gleaming bright in the midday sun. "For these reasons I count you worthy of bearing the title knight, its privileges, and its duties." You pause for a moment while Waymar falls to one knee, eyes bright with anticipation of a dream he has held since childhood. "Answer me then, Waymar of House Royce. Do you swear before the eyes of gods and men to defend those who cannot defend themselves, to protect all in need of protecting, to obey your liege lord, and your king, to fight bravely when needed and do such other tasks as are laid upon you, however hard or humble or perilous they may be?"

    "I so swear, Your Grace," Waymar answers, his voice thick with emotion.

    Lightly tapping your blade against the pauldrons of his armor with an almost musical sound, you declare, "Then arise Ser Waymar, knight of the Realm."

    No sooner had he done so a wide smile brightening his features do you hand him a small bronze ring inscribed with the worlds: Ever-Vigilant. "Given your willingness to throw yourself into battle on a moment's notice, it is only fitting that such a time will never find you unprepared."

    "You did not have to..." your friend begins.

    "Of course we did not have to, we wanted to," you interrupt. "What better times for friends to offer gifts than on such a momentous day?"

    "Vigil!" Waymar gives the command etched into the ring and in an instant he was garbed not in his old Tyroshi-crafted plate with its fanciful Essosi markings, but in a suit of finest plate after the manner of the Seven Kingdoms, though wrought of bronze rather than steel with cunningly wrought scale at the joints such as the finest smith in King's Landing might struggle to work.


    Besides him a tall shield of bright bronze also floats gently mid-air, obedient to his will, though that is the least of the blessings bound into the patterns etched upon it. A ward meant to shed the mightiest blows like the batter of soft rain on steel and once in every day when the peril is greatest to shine like a newborn sun with blessed light.


    "Well now, son, make an old man jealous why don't you?" Bronze Yohn says with a gruff laugh as he looks upon the resplendent armor the newly-made knight of House Royce bore. From the look in Andar and Robar's eyes you rather suspect they might have said the same thing, though less in jest.

    Still the congratulations they offer their younger brother are honest for all that. "What the devil were all those things you killed?" Robar adds.

    "Not actual devils, though we have fought those," Waymar replies lightly.

    "I could conjure seemings of them," Tyene offers, her deceptively soft almost shy tone making it clear to you at least that she has been looking froward to this.

    The spectacle that follows sees a host of familiar foes parade before the eyes of the Royces: specters, fiends, and monsters all, a company of horrors such as could blight these lands of ages to come were they all gathered in one place in truth.

    While Robar asks question after question of Wymar, Tyene, and even Ser Richard, Andar the elder seems caught between pride at Waymar's accomplishments and wariness at how dark and full of terrors the world has shown itself to be. The questions he asks are with an eye not so much to slaying monsters but protecting his lands from them.

    As to lord Royce himself he keeps his own counsel until he finally asks a directly: "Would my daughter be safer in your lands than at Runestone?"

    What do you reply?

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    OOC: This is the decision for Ysilla learning magic so feel free to answer more than the immediate question.
     
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    • Oh god here we go again.

    *lights the loot signal*
    Adhoc vote count started by Snowfire on Mar 19, 2018 at 4:37 AM, finished with 166645 posts and 16 votes.
    • [X] Since the Royces would have to agree to the story, you would prefer that they choose which story is the least onerous for them.
      -[X] The simplest and most straightforward would be to fake Ysilla's death. A disease caught from foreign merchants, or an accident or something similar could be faked with magic, and then she be simply whisked away to SD. However, this would burden the Royces with having to pretend to mourn her, and would make her reintroduction more difficult, though not impossible. However, it should best shield from drawing suspicion to the House as a whole.
      -[X] An alternative would be to have found that Ysilla was cursed, and sent to Braavos for curse breaking with a relative, like Robar. The Braavosi would "fail" and then Robar, rather than return home having failed, would leave Braavos last seen traveling further "East" in search of further solutions, but in truth being brought to SD to study magic for a year or two. This would allow for Ysilla's return, but would be likelier to draw suspicion. It would be easily explained as preferring the word of family, that is Waymar's, in recommending a curse-breaker in Braavos over rumor, but suspicious minds might wonder. The seeming failure of the recommended curse-breaker might deflect said suspicion, but you cannot say what other Lords might think.
      -[X] If Lord Royce (or our companions) can think of an alternative that better provides a reason for Ysilla to leave home and travel outside the seven kingdoms, you'd welcome it, of course. You have been a bit removed from what is considered "normal" in Westeros, so you could be overlooking something.
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    As to lord Royce himself he keeps his own counsel until he finally asks a a brief bluntly: "Would my daughter be safer in your lands then at Runestone?"
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    That really depends on our foe's info-gathering.

    Bringing her over would put her more in the spotlight, endangering her.
    But if foes of ours know she's close to Waymar she's in a bit of danger anyway and we could better defend her.
     
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