A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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I thought it was a Tarrasque at first, but I'm not entirely sure. @Tomcost?
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Can we turn it undead?
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@DragonParadox, question unrelated to the current update:
Does the Seastone Chair in the Iron Islands qualify as an artifact we can sacrifice to the Old Gods via Day of Change? Or maybe the Merling King if he's interested.
Does the Seastone Chair in the Iron Islands qualify as an artifact we can sacrifice to the Old Gods via Day of Change? Or maybe the Merling King if he's interested.
ryuan
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There are two. One is a moon sized undead aborted god that's an Elder Evil and it's a campaign ending enemy.
The other is a giant undead aborted fetus that's a proto god who died before it came to be called Atropal. The Elder Evil spawns Atropals if my memories are right.
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Yep. Atropus. In Oerth mythos he supposedly spawned the gods (lol). In FR mythos, he's an aborted God or primordial and thus he's undead because he was never really alive. Or something.
Myths are a bit messed up all over the place, and the Atropals being lvl 20 psionic enemies that strangle you with their umbilical cord doesn't help matters.
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More than enough to level.
You would have to get a look at it to know one way or another.
Looks like a landslide so vote closed.
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I... Blood Wish, dammit. I swear, if we don't take Greater Teleport next opportunity (level or big sacrifice) i will...
I WILL POST A SAD-KITTY IMAGE MEME!
That's right, gonna get the big guns out.
Also, we are hitting the point where greater dispelling is starting to be needed.
And, as always, I advocate unlocking another knowledge skill, we get one unlock per level, so missing it is not worth it. Nobility might be useful -> Viserys spends one busy sleepless night speed-reading through the trees of Westeros, and the next day is an expert.
Waymar looks on in utter disgust.
Or if not Nobility, then... anything. I just love the whole 1 Skill point -> 8/10 skill points.
Viserys! He may not be Lya scale BS, but he does have a broad knowledge base to work from
. Because if there is one thing he can do magnificently, it's cheat by using magic.
I WILL POST A SAD-KITTY IMAGE MEME!
That's right, gonna get the big guns out.
Also, we are hitting the point where greater dispelling is starting to be needed.
And, as always, I advocate unlocking another knowledge skill, we get one unlock per level, so missing it is not worth it. Nobility might be useful -> Viserys spends one busy sleepless night speed-reading through the trees of Westeros, and the next day is an expert.
Waymar looks on in utter disgust.
Or if not Nobility, then... anything. I just love the whole 1 Skill point -> 8/10 skill points.
Viserys! He may not be Lya scale BS, but he does have a broad knowledge base to work from
. Because if there is one thing he can do magnificently, it's cheat by using magic.
ryuan
From Zero to Hero!
We actually need 5 ranks in it to unlock the synergy for an extra +2 bonus to diplomacy.I... Blood Wish, dammit. I swear, if we don't take Greater Teleport next opportunity (level or big sacrifice) i will...
I WILL POST A SAD-KITTY IMAGE MEME!
That's right, gonna get the big guns out.
Also, we are hitting the point where greater dispelling is starting to be needed.
And, as always, I advocate unlocking another knowledge skill, we get one unlock per level, so missing it is not worth it. Nobility might be useful -> Viserys spends one busy sleepless night speed-reading through the trees of Westeros, and the next day is an expert.
Waymar looks on in utter disgust.
Or if not Nobility, then... anything. I just love the whole 1 Skill point -> 8/10 skill points.
Viserys! He may not be Lya scale BS, but he does have a broad knowledge base to work from
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So... unlock however many skills possible this time, and just add 4 ranks to whatever we want synergy from next level?
Also, intimidate seems to do just fine with 4 ranks.
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I don't care about that as much as abusing our Draconic Knowledge feat further. That thing is awesome.
@Karmic Acumen DP has limited us to one knowledge skill unlock per level. So just one skillpoint and i'll be happy as.. as a dragon expecting to make a wonderful trade deal
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Personally I'd rather keep extra dragon eggs for ourselves, for any future children, for any loyal dragonseeds, for Lya to experiment on, etc.
Anyway, full list of people in line for dragon eggs:
Viserys, Dany, Rhaella, Aemon, Jon, Bloodraven (if he ever gets free), Malarys, Tyene (Targaryen ancestry
), Valaena's baby brother, Shireen (Targaryen ancestry, and we're diplomancing Stannis), loyal dragonseeds. any other party members who want one and can actually control their dragon, etc.If/when we get those eggs we should be hoarding them rather than selling them.
Diomedea
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Since when has DP limited us to one knowledge skill unlock per level? We got two just a level or two ago, if I recall. Are y'all confusing it with knowledge rolls?
Knowledge we don't have:
Geography - Important for campaigning
Nobility - Important for hobnobbing with Westerosi nobles, and might be worth getting to rank 5 to make our diplomacy even more ridiculous.
Local - One I don't think Viserys needs to pick up, since I can't see how DK would be helpful to knowing modern customs, current notables, etc.
Knowledge we don't have:
Geography - Important for campaigning
Nobility - Important for hobnobbing with Westerosi nobles, and might be worth getting to rank 5 to make our diplomacy even more ridiculous.
Local - One I don't think Viserys needs to pick up, since I can't see how DK would be helpful to knowing modern customs, current notables, etc.
Goldfish
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Next level Viserys becomes a True Dragon and all of his skills points ate recalculated based on dragon HD. In other words, we will be getting ALL the skills we want.
@DragonParadox Since we're on the subject, once Viserys goes full dragon, there are a lot of Draconic feats it will no longer make sense for us to have. Are we going to keep them, and continue to benefit from them, or will you let us retrain a bunch of them? We only need to keep two for the Dragonblooded PrC.
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He said that he can't write the dream sequences to show two unlocks at once, can't remember when - maybe when we unlocked teleport.
Also, I for one think that the bonus to Diplo is not worth the 5 skill points, whereas the +1 to Nobility which becomes +8/+10 is absolutely worth it. Just because the other 4 skill points could be better spent on Arcana or Diplo or Bluff or...
The knowledge skill unlock. Any knowledge skill, is one of the hills I'm willing to die on. Metaphorically speaking
.I care little if we go to +5, I think it's not worth it, but as long as we get a +1, I'd be ok about it.
@Goldfish - Those feats fuel our Draconis Knowledge and Spot/Listen! Hands off the shiny, dude
Tbh, if we hadn't gotten all the good ones (I think), I'd want more.
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Those Draconic Feats directly boost Draconic Knowledge.
EDIT: Now if there are better draconic feats then I'm game, but I don't want to lose our biggest advantage with Draconic Knowledge.
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Which ones? Draconic Sense is fifty if it doesn't, say, upgrade on innate Blindense to Blindsight within the first 20ft, for example, but it does give the same bonus as DK gives, only to Spot/Listen/Search.
I'd drop Arcane Grace and Draconic Heritage, tho. I suppose Vigor could also go. The rest is fairly useful.
Goldfish
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Or we can just spend the skill points which we will have in great abundance and use those feats for things like Metamagic.
Diomedea
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He said that he can't write the dream sequences to show two unlocks at once, can't remember when - maybe when we unlocked teleport.
Also, I for one think that the bonus to Diplo is not worth the 5 skill points, whereas the +1 to Nobility which becomes +8/+10 is absolutely worth it. Just because the other 4 skill points could be better spent on Arcana or Diplo or Bluff or...
The knowledge skill unlock. Any knowledge skill, is one of the hills I'm willing to die on. Metaphorically speaking
I care little if we go to +5, I think it's not worth it, but as long as we get a +1, I'd be ok about it.
@Goldfish - Those feats fuel our Draconis Knowledge and Spot/Listen! Hands off the shiny, dude
We're getting a bunch of skill points at level 15 when we shift to dragon, if I understand it correctly. Something like an extra 50 skill points when we shift from Human Sorcerer->Draconic Hit die?