A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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tarrangar
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We can do that as well, but I want to see if my Polymorph any object plan work, even if we find CotF elsewhere it wouldn't be wasted, data is always useful, and I doubt there are that many CotF, so a child would still be good for them, not that I think there's much chance of finding lost CotF, they tend to grow Weirwood, which would mean the OG and the CotF we have would already know about them, so the CotF is one of the least likely species to have lost colonies.
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Boooooooo. Heretic!!!!
tarrangar
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Whether we can find CotF or not we need to do the Polymorph any Object experiment, I'm sure Lya will be interested in the resulting data, and we do need to do nice things for her once in a while, thinking up a mad science experiment, that tells us more about transformation magic is a good gift to her.
Sure we can always get her rare magical objects to study, but proving we have the intellect to come up with magical experiments ourselves should impress her.
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The method of carrying the child out has nothing to do with the source of the genetic material.
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This could combine the best of both. We could get the population up by hundreds, even thousands.
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I'm disinclined to dismiss mad science out of hand. It has produced great results so far.
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Artifical insemination and artifical wombs.This could combine the best of both. We could get the population up by hundreds, even thousands.
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Now, if only one of our characters had any idea about all that stuff in-character ...
tarrangar
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It do when the method is Polymorph, any part separated from the whole returns to normal, so we can't harvest genetic material from polymorphed people to grow in artificial wombs.
That's also why it has to be women we polymorph, the seed would turn back at climax if we polymorphed a man, luckily mammals grow their children internally, so the cells will split so much before that original cell turn back, we will still get a full blooded CotF out of it.
But an artificial womb would mean separating parts from the whole, and that turn the part back to what it used to be.
So unless you have another way of making new CotF genetic material, we need to grow the children in actual wombs.
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First try adding a bit Viserys to an Arcanum to create a dragonblooded version.
Then we already have the basics down and just need to find a way that is cheaper and doesn't only work for the Lya-template.
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Polymorph the separated part.
Actually, that would work with vegetable.
Edit: I mean, we could PaO a head of lettuce into a CoF womb.
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About the Children revival in general, here's a totally different idea:
The Children are Humanoids with a good bit Fey-touch, as DP said.
So maybe let some procreate with pure but fertile Fey, like Satyrs and Nymphs and some others with humans.
Then cross the resulting Half Fey children with the Half Human children from the other unions and the result should be something close to CotF.
If they grow up with them to be culturally assimilated it should be close enough.
Both the mortality and the basic connection to nature should be present.
The Children are Humanoids with a good bit Fey-touch, as DP said.
So maybe let some procreate with pure but fertile Fey, like Satyrs and Nymphs and some others with humans.
Then cross the resulting Half Fey children with the Half Human children from the other unions and the result should be something close to CotF.
If they grow up with them to be culturally assimilated it should be close enough.
Both the mortality and the basic connection to nature should be present.
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Having watched the entirety of Kill la Kill just yesterday I can't help but want to make one.
Rainbow wombs for the win!
On an entirely unrelated note -
Oh god. Oh my fucking god. I don't think I'll survive this semester at university. With DP posting the last update as late as 03.30 after midnight, having to wake up at 06.30 and being abso-fucking-lutely addicted to this thread and being unable to close my eyes once "Vote closed" sounded.
Welp, sanity is for the weak-spirited anyway.
tarrangar
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That might work or it might not, I suspect they are descended from a very specific strain of Fey that's extinct by now, introducing other kinds of fey blood might not work.
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That would be recreating the race, not saving it.
Like the recreation of aurochs.
And the methods are not mutually exclusive.
I like.
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You either have self-discipline or you don't.
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Welcome to the majority.
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It wouldn't been original CotF, but close enough that together with cultural adoption the idea, poetically speaking the soul, of the Singers can continue on.
Half Fey from most feyish parents should be enough in-tune with nature to understand the song of the world with a good teacher.
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But - here we have the chance to (re)create life ourselves, and you want to involve gods? Where's the ambition?
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If the OGs could fix this they propably would have done so already, or if it's only possible with the return of magic Bloodraven would have mentioned it.
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We can do both. Sacrifices to the Old Gods for more genetic diversity, then we'll do the rest.
To be fair, it wasn't something that we ever got around to asking.
Not to mention that most of their focus is on the Long Night, so they'd probably conserve energy for that instead.
But if we gathered enough sacrifices, perhaps they'd have the energy to spare.
tarrangar
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That could work, I'm not sure if it would work, and when we need to use a Polymorph anyways, I think it's cheaper to use the natural way, it's the polymorph not the mother that's the big expense, and I suspect operating an artificial womb, would cost more than hiring a woman to be the mother.
Not to mention the cost of making the artificial womb, so I think it's cheaper to keep to natural wombs, when we need to use polymorph anyways, and using natural wombs also has a potential second benefit, all CotF can learn to be Rangers and Druids, so while polymorphed, the mothers can try and see if being in the form of a CotF means they can too, we might get a few PCs out of this as well.
That's a good plan B, but I would prefer to restore the species fully, instead of just making a closely related specie to succeed them.
Too expensive, Polymorph is cheaper than sacrifices, so if the Polymorph plan turn out to work, there's no reason to waste sacrifice on it.We can do both. Sacrifices to the Old Gods for more genetic diversity, then we'll do the rest.