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It's not too big of a deal, we can get the rest of the library pretty easily with future visits to the Wall.
The Lord Commander gave us unrestricted access to all archives.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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The Lord Commander gave us unrestricted access to all archives.
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In that case would Discreetly bringing not!lya help? We should get mom home soon anyway, no reason for her to wait here.
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1) woman at the wall (just now it isn't made a problem because we are leaving soon, and after that casual magical display ... even the Watch might want to lose some Auranes).
2) Does Mercy know the spell?
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Mercy doesn't have Amanuensis, so no. Wouldn't help with the library. And between Vee, Dany, Tyene, and Lya, pretty much everyone in Castle Black is purged of any major ailment by now. Disease? Gone. Minor & major wounds? Gone. Addictions? Gone.
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Looks solid enough 2 days it is.
Looks solid enough 2 days it is.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I weren't saying that we should ennoble all mages, just that the fact Volantis do that, mean there's a decent precedent that makes ennobling Lya more legitimate.
I think there should simply be tiers to it, if you know second tier spells you will get an equivalent rank to a hedgeknight, by defining lesser noble titles for the weaker mages, we make the titles we give to the stronger more important, simply by giving them something to compare to.
I think it's worth it to lessen the problems we will have with stupid entitled nobles.
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Come to think of it, @Azel, making a research/librarian Arcanum would be very neat, especially when we could leave her in charge of the future Royal Library without fear of her stealing books or being disloyal in any way.
We could gear all her spells to researching and restoring tomes and such with a few token combat spells, generally make her hard to kill as per all the Arcanums, etc. This would significantly help with a lot of Lya's time management, too. I know we've discussed a research Arcanum in general, but combining that with a dedicated librarian Arcanum seems fitting.
We could gear all her spells to researching and restoring tomes and such with a few token combat spells, generally make her hard to kill as per all the Arcanums, etc. This would significantly help with a lot of Lya's time management, too. I know we've discussed a research Arcanum in general, but combining that with a dedicated librarian Arcanum seems fitting.
Diomedea
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I used Vee because she's an excellent example. It's all about providing a (Psychological) script for them to follow, because Vee breaks all the existing ones. A knight visiting our court meets Vee and she is introduced to him as "Wisdom" Vee. Where does he go from there? He has several scripts for interacting with women, but he knows some don't apply. She's clearly common, but he knows his "dealing with smallfolk" script isn't right. He could try to use his script for dealing with noble women...which would fail and make Vee uncomfortable about it. He could treat her as some dangerous other, which doesn't do much for promoting mages.
But if we tell people (very, very condensed version) "Wisdoms are pretty much like knights," he could try to talk to her like she was a knight. So he asks her about if she's been in battle, and maybe she shares a story about something she fought once that stuck out in her mind. He shares his own experience of battle, and if he had fought something magical brings that up. Vee might say something reassuring like "they seem scary, but the more you fight them, the more you learn they die just the same", and they conclude their conversation. Perhaps the knight is unnerved due to what Vee said, but mostly it was a successful conversation.
The knight now has a box to put powerful magic users in called "wisdom," and Vee has successfully navigated this stupid court function she had to attend, and even talked to some people and it went fine, so she feels good.
Now some people will scoff at this precedence we're setting, but by having established it first, we can then drop the (social) hammer on them and mock them unrelentingly, since challenging the precedence is challenging our authority in our own court.
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Librarian Arcanum is far from urgent. We could push it back indefinitely as far as I'm concerned. It's just that the sooner we make her the sooner Lya has a competent partner in research and can save time.
The musician Arcanum is a bit of a must, though. We need to speed up our kingdom-building.
Goldfish
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I think we should maybe hold off on any more Arcanum until Lya levels again. They are a serious drain on her XP.
We need to wait for Lya to learn the Earth lore, too. At least I'm assuming I'm not the only one who thinks it would be the best choice of Lore for a crafter or librarian. Maybe for a musician, too, if we're expecting her to play the Lyre uninterrupted for days.
@Azel Arcanum HD are half Lya's, right? So she'll need to be level 16 before she can create one with 4th level spells? DP did say they could level up independently though, I believe?
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I remember something about being able to level up via racial HD. But yeah, we need to wait for Lya to get stronger to gain the appropriate lores.
Basically this. There's no hurry at all, it's just an idea I want to set in motion ahead of time. Although personally I don't want a negative librarian.
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I read a few pages back that the arcanums didn't have to be physically female. Is that really possible? Because if it is how much of a headache would it be to implement?
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Technically I only wrote that for the capstone bodies, but I also imagined Arcanums as much more different from the original Lya. It should be easily doable at no extra effort.
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I fully agree with this. I want the Musician Arcanum to be built way before the Librarian arcanum. And with the Librarian Arcanum we don't even have all the lores we'd want for it anyway, so we kind of have to wait for Lya to gain a few more levels.
Diomedea
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We can start laying the groundwork now, by picking out spell selection and having Lya learn those spells, so next time she makes arcanum it's not nearly her whole month.
We've been meaning to dedicate a little more of her time to learning spells anyway.
We've been meaning to dedicate a little more of her time to learning spells anyway.
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IIRC, they still need the cash and XP investment to "upgrade" to a higher level, or so I remember it being explained way back then.
Like upgrading a magic weapon from +2 to +3, you pay the difference.
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Really now, self-leveling omnicasters with Sorc progression on Outsider HD, with special abilities on top of it, is a bit much, isn't it?
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@TotallyNotEvil, can I get a response to this?
By the way, @Goldfish @TotallyNotEvil, since we're going to be bringing Lya up to Bloodraven for our next trip North--to learn lore directly, learn the basics of First Men wards and to get the chance to study the wards of that giant weirwood, and to learn spells--can you guys think ahead on which druid spells you want her to learn? Particularly the spells that would be hard for us to buy.
We saw Bloodraven cast Stone to Flesh, a level 6 Sorcerer spell. And I just did some reading on Bloodraven's predominant class Arcane Heirophant and--like Lya's Sage of Creation class--it advances an arcane spellcasting class and a divine spellcasting class.
So Bloodraven, to our knowledge, currently has this:
Although it is very likely he's gained a level since then given how much he dreams and the things he regularly fights in the Far north. So he effectively has the casting power of a level 13 Druid, meaning he has access to Druid spells up to level 6 at minimum.
One thing, though, is that the Old Gods have a hate-boner for Ice spells because of the Others. But that aside the only major restriction is the amount of Lya time we spend up there learning the spells, so they'd have to be the absolute best picks. Do you guys have anything on your wishlists?
EDIT: Hell, we could get any level 6 Arcane Spells that Bloodraven happens to know as well.
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In that case, I officially petition that our bard arcanum should be a male and should be made one of our intelligence agents.
Reason 1. As an arcanum, we'd have absolute confidence in their loyalty which is one of the biggest issues when it comes to recruiting intelligence assets.
Reason 2. They'd be much more capable of handling themselves so we could afford to send them out on moderately more dangerous missions.
Reason 3. Our intelligence network needs not only information sources but counter-intelligence agents to sabotage and harry our rivals. As of now those are Maelor, Glyra and the half-Alu demon. Having a dedicated spy would help fill that niche.
Reason 1. As an arcanum, we'd have absolute confidence in their loyalty which is one of the biggest issues when it comes to recruiting intelligence assets.
Reason 2. They'd be much more capable of handling themselves so we could afford to send them out on moderately more dangerous missions.
Reason 3. Our intelligence network needs not only information sources but counter-intelligence agents to sabotage and harry our rivals. As of now those are Maelor, Glyra and the half-Alu demon. Having a dedicated spy would help fill that niche.
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Aradia is already filling that role and makes also a great assassin.